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to think the common idea that Diana was murdered is absurd

438 replies

makkapacca · 29/01/2022 17:01

Heard a journalist on the radio the other day speculating it was not an accident and heard others saying the same. AIBU to think people like this are complete idiots?

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Monopolyiscrap · 06/02/2022 01:08

@SillyBud the first article you posted said Diana did leave some money to charities, this is what I have read.
The second article you posted quotes Peter Tatchell saying Diana did not leave money to charities. The reason the article has a person quoted saying this is that the media publishing it knows it is not true. And Peter Tatchell himself has said some pretty outrageous things in his time including defending men having sex with boys.

SillyBud · 06/02/2022 01:08

It read up the article ''So it's kind of weird that no charities are named in her will'' but then contradicted itself and said she left something but not alot. Woo sorry I made an error, why you getting so defensive over it?

Monopolyiscrap · 06/02/2022 01:23

You have posted two links and quite a few comments saying wrongly that Diana did not leave money to any charities in her wills.
So now you accept she did leave money to charities in her will?

DePfeffoff · 06/02/2022 09:25

[quote Monopolyiscrap]@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime you don't have to do that. But you also don't have to walk away and leave your husband with her. Seriously what kind of wet blanket would do that??[/quote]
I suspect that, in this particular case, there was something of a pact between husband and wife that this was the quickest way to get rid of her without being overtly rude.

DePfeffoff · 06/02/2022 09:28

[quote Monopolyiscrap]@IcedPurple the affairs are not speculation, everything else is.
Lots of the Royal Family members have affairs. Why only criticise her for it?[/quote]
No-one is "only" criticising her. They are simply responding to attempts to portray her as a sainted and wronged innocent.

DePfeffoff · 06/02/2022 09:31

[quote Monopolyiscrap]@SillyBud I have just reported something that is sheer nasty speculation. Read at end of page 14.
I have just googled and she did leave money to charities in her will.[/quote]
Not everyone sets their message views to pages.

Is there anything stated on here that isn't, to your certain knowledge, supported by evidence?

DePfeffoff · 06/02/2022 09:40

SillyBud there is no evidence provided that a wife supposedly said that, not even a name.

The gentleman concerned was Oliver Hoare. It was well known that Diana was infatuated with him.

IcedPurple · 06/02/2022 09:42

[quote Monopolyiscrap]@IcedPurple the affairs are not speculation, everything else is.
Lots of the Royal Family members have affairs. Why only criticise her for it?[/quote]
I'm not sure what you mean by 'everything else'? Obviously none of us can know what she was thinking or feeling, but it seems likely that a woman who had numerous affairs with married men didn't feel too guilty about it.

And your other point is silly. I'm discussing Diana because this thread is about Diana. If it were about Charles, I would be discussing Charles. But it isn't.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/02/2022 12:59

@DePfeffoff

SillyBud there is no evidence provided that a wife supposedly said that, not even a name.

The gentleman concerned was Oliver Hoare. It was well known that Diana was infatuated with him.

Goodness me. What a carry-on. If it's true, what a silly woman to let a crush take her over to such an extent.

meaww.com/princess-diana-secret-affair-oliver-hoare-married-prince-charles-pregnancy-police-investigation

It's hard to credit that the furious wife portrayed there can have been the wife who was reported as letting her get away with it, though. Are you sure? Was there a point at which she didn't know what was going on but still knew Diana was pursuing her husband in that slightly deranged way?

lockthedoor36 · 06/02/2022 15:21

And your other point is silly. I'm discussing Diana because this thread is about Diana. If it were about Charles, I would be discussing Charles. But it isn't

agreed and Charles gets slated lots for his behaviour so why shouldn't Diana get called out too?

lockthedoor36 · 06/02/2022 15:25

You have posted two links and quite a few comments saying wrongly that Diana did not leave money to any charities in her wills.
So now you accept she did leave money to charities in her will

in fairness the websites did contradict themselves as they initially said no charity was named in her will so I can see why people would believe it.

Also I think a lot of people do believe she left nothing to charity as some guy went public several years ago saying it. I don't recall exactly what he said but I did think myself up until now also he said she left nothing as the story was big in the media at the time . You sound like you are taking this very personally. Relax it's a mn thread x

Monopolyiscrap · 06/02/2022 15:33

It is not about taking something personally. I just think you are purposely finding anything to try and criticise Diana with, whether it is true or not.

lockthedoor36 · 06/02/2022 15:40

No nobody is doing that; she was called out for not giving properly to charities and it was true. Ok she left something but considering she built a name around her charity work I can see why she gets criticised for it especially as she left a vast fortune and the 2 main benefactors, her sons, already had plenty so didn't need her money.

She was called out for her affairs which are very true. It was also documented by many reliable sources she was difficult and prickly and fell out with many people over trivial issues.

So I too question what you are seeing in this thread that doesn't have truth or substance to it?

Monopolyiscrap · 06/02/2022 15:47

I am fine if you say she didn't leave enough to charities, and I would agree. You said though she left nothing to charities.
And Harry did need the money to leave the RF.

lockthedoor36 · 06/02/2022 16:07

You said though she left nothing to charities

Where did I say that?

lockthedoor36 · 06/02/2022 16:10

And Harry did need the money to leave the RF

not really, he makes a lot of money through his gigs in the USA and I read that Princess Margaret left alot to Harry, I'm sure he will benefit from the Queen's passing too and Charles's passing.

IcedPurple · 06/02/2022 16:30

Margaret had her own children. Why would one of her several grand nephews be so important to her?

Also, I doubt she had that much money. Her children recently auctioned off some of her jewels.

lockthedoor36 · 06/02/2022 16:39

Also, I doubt she had that much money. Her children recently auctioned off some of her jewels

She left 20m million in her estate- 13.6 million of it went to charity, 7.6 million to her kids.

I think I am confusing Margaret with the Queen Mum who left a reported £14 million in a trust fund to her great-grandchildren in her will to help support them, but with the understanding that Harry would receive more than his brother Prince William.

IcedPurple · 06/02/2022 16:42

@lockthedoor36

Also, I doubt she had that much money. Her children recently auctioned off some of her jewels

She left 20m million in her estate- 13.6 million of it went to charity, 7.6 million to her kids.

I think I am confusing Margaret with the Queen Mum who left a reported £14 million in a trust fund to her great-grandchildren in her will to help support them, but with the understanding that Harry would receive more than his brother Prince William.

I've heard this rumour too, but I wonder how much substance there is to it. She had several grandchildren and greatgrandchildren. I'm not sure Harry would have been exceptionally important to her.
lockthedoor36 · 06/02/2022 16:59

I've heard this rumour too, but I wonder how much substance there is to it. She had several grandchildren and greatgrandchildren. I'm not sure Harry would have been exceptionally important to her

Aren't the wills public record?

IcedPurple · 06/02/2022 17:07

No.

Elasmotherium · 06/02/2022 17:09

Yes it is utterly daft.

See the Mitchell & Webb sketch linked up thread for all the reasons it is draft.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 06/02/2022 17:17

@PAFMO

It was a fringe loony view even back then from the sort of person who thinks the WTC was a controlled explosion, Jim Morrison had a facelift and became Barry Manilow and the Moon landing was filmed in a studio. It's never been a mainstream opinion. She died because she didn't wear a seatbelt and the driver was pissed.
Jim Morrison should ask for his money back.
Sowhatifiam · 06/02/2022 17:17

As conspiracy theories go, I think ‘Diana was murdered’ is one of the more believable ones. However, ‘Diana was murdered whilst she was being driven at speed by someone who was drunk and she didn’t have a seat belt on’ is really not believable at all. Tragic accident.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/02/2022 17:40

@Monopolyiscrap

I am fine if you say she didn't leave enough to charities, and I would agree. You said though she left nothing to charities. And Harry did need the money to leave the RF.
How many million pounds do most people need not to be one of the royal family for goodness' sake? I'm fairly sure Prince Edward has managed to scrape by on less than the fourteen million Harry got from Diana (and there may have been more from other sources too).

Also, there is no way that Diana could have foreseen his making poor choices, though I suppose if she expected him to take after her she ought to have done.