Is it illegal to kill a wild animal at work?

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Posting for traffic. Is illegal/possible to pursue for animal cruelty if someone kills a wild animal in their work place?

I have been googling but I can only find information really regarding livestock and pets.

@Pluvia

Whydoesthecatalwaysdo that?

Talk about scraping the barrel!

You're joking, surely? 27 million birds killed by cats each year in the UK annually. That the RSPB's figures.

www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/advice/gardening-for-wildlife/animal-deterrents/cats-and-garden-birds/are-cats-causing-bird-declines/

100 million animals estimated to be killed annually by domestic cats — mice, rats, shrews, voles, rabbits and anything else that moves. Of course, some of their victims just get badly maimed and crawl off into a hedge to die slowly.

If you really care about wildlife don't keep a cat.

I have a cat, she's either indoors or in an enclosed area outside so has killed zero birds/other wildlife.

Having a cat doesn't automatically mean that you don't care about wildlife.

It’s crazy when people talk about people keeping cats, if they wasn’t domesticated they’d still exist and be killing a number of birds anyway.

@PossiblyDreaming You do realise not all cats hunt and kill birds and the biggest decline in bird numbers is due to starvation and loss of habitat.

Also keeping a cat is completely different to a random person intentionally killing a bird.

My cats an indoor cat too

She never used to be and yes she hunted a few birds when she was an exclusive outdoor cat.

We’ve moved house since then and she’s 99% indoor. She’s currently asleep on my bed as I type.

We’ve lived here 3 years and she hasn’t caught a thing since

Jesus wept. Are posters actually comparing a cat killing a bird to a manager of a store killing a bird? Are you that dense?

Cats are dumb animals acting on instinct. A human should have the basic sense and moral judgement to know that there are humane ways to dispatch of a nuisance animal.

If this is in any way unclear, have a think about if a cat would be able to manage a Co op.

I can't actually believe how ridiculous this thread has become 🙈

Where is the evidence that the store manager didn’t despatch the magpie humanely?

Sigh @Inspectorslack are we back here again? There is no concrete evidence but there is reasonable suspicion. Therefore op was correct to inform the company so that it can be looked into. Hope that helps.

Sigh.

There isn’t reasonable suspicion.

There is third hand hearsay.

Pure and simple.

@Inspectorslack if you're such a fan of evidence why are you so against an investigation being carried out?

There is reasonable suspicion. Staff were heard talking about it and the bird has not been seen since. All it may take is for someone to look at CCTV. If the incident never happened then the manager will have nothing to worry about. If he admits to it or is found to have done it then he is scum and deserves to be punished.

And what do you feed your cat on, slashlover? Veg?

[quote starsaligned]@Inspectorslack if you're such a fan of evidence why are you so against an investigation being carried out?

There is reasonable suspicion. Staff were heard talking about it and the bird has not been seen since. All it may take is for someone to look at CCTV. If the incident never happened then the manager will have nothing to worry about. If he admits to it or is found to have done it then he is scum and deserves to be punished. [/quote]
It really depends how OP worded the email, tbh. There's a difference between
Dear Co-op, the manager in your X store killed a bird, probably by stomping on it. Please fire him^
and
Dear Co-op, I heard that the manager in X Co-op may have harmed a bird. Could you please investigate if this is true, and if so, how this was done and were any other routes taken first?

@Pluvia

And what do you feed your cat on, slashlover? Veg?

What does that have to do with your initial point about birds, mice, voles, rabbits etc?

What slashlover said.

@Inspectorslack would you like a wall to bang your head against....

No thank you.

It doesn't have anything to do with rats and voles. I'm making the point that too many of the people here decrying the murder of a magpie are regularly feeding their pets the dead bodies of animals that have been bred to be needlessly slaughtered for human and pet food when they could still be wandering our hillsides and fields. I bet a fair few of the people working themselves into a lather about this (possible) incident also eat meat.

I sometimes eat meat too, and I feed it to my dog, but I'm not a hypocrite: I don't pretend that the murder of one (a chicken, a lamb, a beef steer) is less important than the murder of another (the magpie). If I'm not beside myself with grief and fury at the death of a lamb for meat, or the shooting of rabbits on the local golf course to prevent then digging holes in the fairways, or the culling of unnameable dogs, then why would I get wound up by the death of a magpie?

A magpie humanely killed is different from a magpie tortured to death, although we don't know the details and probably never will now. (Weirdly, there seems to be zero about this on FB or Twitter, you'd have thought that someone would have tweeted the company if this happened.)

I'm vegetarian but my cat eats cat food with meat in it, I think it's cruel to feed a cat vegetarian/vegan cat food.

So how do you know the animals your cat eats were humanely destroyed? Lots of footage available of slaughterhouses with chickens being dipped live into boiling water, pigs and cattle inadequately stunned etc.

We're such hypocrites. So long as we don't have to see it we can pretend all animals are put to sleep painlessly and without stress and instead get our knickers in a twist about a speculative magpie slaying.

I used to work in a chicken factory. Not on the kill line, on the packing line. I know how they’re killed.

I’m not sure why that’s relevant?

Dear OP
I hope the below helps you if you do want to take any further action ( as well as / instead of the shop complaint)

As a PP said early on in thread , you need a licence to kill a magpie which might be granted if it is shown to be a nuisance/ a pest. These are from NE . Even with a licence it must be done humanely .

Killing intentionally without a licence is a crime under the 1981 countryside act . As it’s a crime , you can report to the police wildlife officer - every force has one eg one person per county should you want to . The shop manages defence in their actions could be that the bird died accidentally whilst he was trying to get him out of the shop so the only way to dispute otherwise would be a witness who saw the actual killing and how it happened.

Reporting to the WO could be more effective- visit / phone call / warning prosecution depending on circumstances than your email to the Coop who like some PP on here do not seem to know the intricacies of the law.

Hope this helps .
( someone who used to work with NE licence officers)