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longwayoff · 27/01/2022 15:26

If he's gone via private jet he may come back with a collection of dogs he's stopped off to rescue. Warms the heartstrings.

the80sweregreat · 27/01/2022 15:33

Lead by example? Do me a favour
Only lead he can be in charge of is Dilyn's one whilst out jogging and being papped.

itsgettingweird · 27/01/2022 15:34

@longwayoff

If he's gone via private jet he may come back with a collection of dogs he's stopped off to rescue. Warms the heartstrings.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Although it's quite concerning our apparent leader of the country has just become good for providing witty one liners

Florianus · 27/01/2022 15:34

@ClaudineClare

It was told to me by a neighbour who works for one of the civil service unions

Ok. I was hoping for a slightly more reliable source tbh!

Fair point, but the BBC are now speculating that delays may be due to more junior staff individually raising concerns that while they are not going to be identified, the information in the report might make them nonetheless too easy to identify" - so there may be something in what my neighbour said.

the80sweregreat · 27/01/2022 15:35

I doubt that this inquiry will ever see the light of day at this rate

22itsallnew · 27/01/2022 15:46

BBC are now speculating that delays may be due to more junior staff individually raising concerns that while they are not going to be identified, the information in the report might make them nonetheless too easy to identify"

Well if they've done nothing wrong they've nothing to worry about have they?

jgw1 · 27/01/2022 15:49

@the80sweregreat

I doubt that this inquiry will ever see the light of day at this rate

Frankly I am not sure it needs to see the light of day.

It is perfectly clear that there was a whole series of parties that broke the law at 10 Downing Street, some of which were attended by the Prime Minister, Chancellor and other Ministers.

By not insisting that Boris resigns the rest of his cabinet and lesser extent MPs are complicit.

The pleasing thing is that the majority of the British public seems to realise this, helped no doubt by some of Johnson's fans tying themselves in knots to defend him.

longwayoff · 27/01/2022 15:51

Gullis is a privately educated Tory MP who has problems with the term 'white privilege'? . How wonderfully thick. Glad he's not out there 'educating' people.

CheltenhamLady · 27/01/2022 16:00

I am at a complete loss to understand how anyone can defend Boris Johnson for what went on in Downing St.

He was responsible for the rules and he broke them, then he lied both to the British people and to Parliament. He blatantly broke the Nolan Principles of public life. There can be no argument about it.

Spare a thought for this family.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-boy-death-hospital-london-youngest-uk-ismail-abdulwahab-a9439526.html

UnconditionalSurrender · 27/01/2022 16:25

BBC are now speculating that delays may be due to more junior staff individually raising concerns that while they are not going to be identified, the information in the report might make them nonetheless too easy to identify

I suspect this is a load of old bollocks. More likely Johnson's lawyers are going through it with a fine tooth comb trying to redact the worst of it by saying it will compromise a police investigation. But yes lets deflect the blame onto the junior staff again.

the80sweregreat · 27/01/2022 16:27

Lbc were funny just now ,
' any news on the sue Gray report ' ?
' no '
.. I think the joke might wear thin by next week but made me smile

merrymouse · 27/01/2022 16:30

The Queen might be upset about the party before the funeral, but at least while this goes on the focus isn’t all in Prince Andrew.

(Conspiracy????? )

Flowertailbird · 27/01/2022 16:34

@the80sweregreat

Lbc were funny just now , ' any news on the sue Gray report ' ? ' no ' .. I think the joke might wear thin by next week but made me smile

Eddie Mair has been brilliant throughout this saga of shit.

Cornettoninja · 27/01/2022 16:35

But yes lets deflect the blame onto the junior staff again

I’m willing to put good money on junior staff already being lined up to carry the can.

the80sweregreat · 27/01/2022 16:36

Eddie Mair is funny.
One of my favorite presenters.

ClaudineClare · 27/01/2022 16:36

He was responsible for the rules and he broke them

Oh dear. I sense a lecture from Flo incoming on how this is most definitely not the case.

DuncinToffee · 27/01/2022 16:40

Nobody told him, he is just the messenger

ClaudineClare · 27/01/2022 16:46

BBC are now speculating that delays may be due to more junior staff individually raising concerns that while they are not going to be identified, the information in the report might make them nonetheless too easy to identify

The key word is speculating @Florianus. The BBC article says:

And there has been no attempt by civil service trade unions to delay the report or ask for retractions (Did your neighbour not let you know this, Flo?)

Only very senior civil servants will be named and those who will be named have already been informed.

But it's not impossible that more junior staff individually may have raised concerns that while they are not going to be identified, the information in the report might make them nonetheless too easy to identify

That last para is pure hokum. If that was the case the unions would be objecting on the junior civil servants' behalf and, as we know, that is not the case.. Unless none of them belong to a union, which makes them more stupid than I initially thought.

SueSaid · 27/01/2022 16:47

'It is perfectly clear that there was a whole series of parties that broke the law at 10 Downing Street, some of which were attended by the Prime Minister, Chancellor and other Ministers.By not insisting that Boris resigns the rest of his cabinet and lesser extent MPs are complicit.'

Oh well, that's that then. Best let Gray know?

'I am at a complete loss to understand how anyone can defend Boris Johnson for what went on in Downing St.'

Errors were made, lines were crossed but I'd rather their errors of judgement were over having a bit of birthday cake than say, not getting vaccines rolled out swiftly or not having freedom day in July.

They got the big things right. Refreshments at work should have been stricter to prevent this hysteria if nothing else.

ClaudineClare · 27/01/2022 16:49

"Hysteria". A word bandied about by those who are losing the argument.

SueSaid · 27/01/2022 16:50

@ClaudineClare

"Hysteria". A word bandied about by those who are losing the argument.

There is no other way to describe the way the media are behaving over this.

Roussette · 27/01/2022 16:52

Errors were made, lines were crossed but I'd rather their errors of judgement were over having a bit of birthday cake than say, not getting vaccines rolled out swiftly or not having freedom day in July

You are sounding more like Johnson by the day!

22itsallnew · 27/01/2022 16:54

@JaniieJones Did you do homeschooling while working during the lockdowns?

Did you miss out on seeing isolated family members?

Did you miss out on meeting a newborn?

Did you miss out on paying your respects in person at a funeral?

Because this is what the public were doing while No 10 held boozy dos. Stop trivialising what people have been through.

DePfeffoff · 27/01/2022 16:54

No. The rules for which he held joint responsibility. As I keep saying, we do not have a dictator nor even a president in this country, so trying to glam up Johnson as some sort of star is a mistake.

So what? The point is that he was disobeying the rules for which he held responsibility. So why have you been working so hard trying to minimise every single instance when he has done that?

merrymouse · 27/01/2022 16:54

He is simply wrong for the job of PM. Recognising that fact is not a sign of hysteria, it’s just a sign of having all your faculties intact.