To be fed up of Mondelez ruining British Chocolate

[TetraTetris]

Now mini eggs....they just don't even smell the same let alone taste the same!

Yanbu

Weird if the Irish ingredients are the same because it tastes completely different - thank goodness!!

I remember reading up on this when the taste of Dairy Milk first changed. Apparently the reason why Dairy Milk and Cadbury milk chocolate in general had that very specific and different taste is because they used to pre caramelize the sugar and milk they used - it was done using special machinery - it can't really be done without it. When they were taken over by Kraft, Kraft decided it was too much faff and they could cut the cost of the chocolate by streamlining and they cut out that process. So that lovely very specific Dairy Milk flavour was lost then - while the ingredients may have been broadly the same, the way it was made had changed the taste.

However, to add insult to injury, further cost cutting and take over by Mondelez switched from cocoa butter and milk fat to reduced amount of cocoa butter and cheap palm oil/shea/ instead etc etc, which is what ruined the texture to become the claggy crap it is now.

Irish Dairy milk is sadly not the answer, it does taste a bit different but it is definitely not the beloved Dairy Milk of old. It is also not good anymore (I have Irish relatives and have managed to try a lot of it but it's meh) BUT Flakes/Twirls required the old method/machinery to get the specific texture and flakey crumbliness, so they kept the old production equipment in that Irish factory for those two items. I don't know if that has since been streamlined and updated, or whether the vegetable oils still ruin the taste, but basically the best bet for the Cadbury taste is a Twirl/Flake made in Ireland.

That’s really interesting and makes perfect sense @AMockeryofChocolate. Twirls are still great albeit smaller, but my other favourite - Wispa - is a shadow of its former self!

I find the really big bars (the £3 ones) are the most original taste and still have the nice sort of matte textured chunks. The £1 bars are thin and crap in comparison.

^OneTC^ it’s not quite that simple re Tony’s- I did some reading into this recently. They’re a fab company who have no problem in ‘admitting’ that they work with umbrella companies who do use some child slavery, but they’re working with them to make the changes happen. On their website they state something along the lines of wanting to create change within the entire industry, not just creating a chocolate which is slavery free.

I absolutely love the orange wrapped caramel Tony’s chocolate but unfortunately I’m not keen on the others. It’s probably for the best I guess...!

YANBU - they ruined Cabury’s, as well said they would. The last Govt should’ve blocked the take over.

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I don't think it's Mondelez but we got a box of Ferrero Rocher at Christmas and it's still sitting there after we tried one each. Used to love them but vile now. I contacted the company and told them, asked if it was due to change in ingredients. They didn't respond to that but sent vouchers .., to buy more (won't be bothering ). Lidl choc is still good.

@FrenchyQ with you on that! I am a greedy cow for most chocolate and love white chocolate, parents bought DC some M bars, I nabbed one, I actually had to spit it out and bin the rest of the bar, I don't think I have ever done that with anything - revolting!

I agree that an apparently-identical ingredient list doesn't necessarily tell the whole story. It makes a massive difference depending on the quality/provenance of those ingredients and production methods.

I could use the exact same materials as Picasso used, but I can guarantee that my painting wouldn't be worth millions!

McDonalds always insist that their burgers are made with 100% pure beef with a dash of salt and pepper - and I'm sure they're telling the truth - but the burgers from my local butcher are made from the exact same ingredients and are delicious, whereas the former ones barely taste of anything at all.

@TansySorrel

The ingredients of UK and Irish Cadbury stated on the relevant websites are identical as far as I can see. Irish cadbury

That doesn't tell you much about the proportions though, nor differences in the method.

I agree that Mondelez chocolate tastes awful.

Not sure it it helps, OP, but they didn't stop at the British chocolate. I am not British - Mondelez bought a brand from my childhood and ruined it too!

Moldelez make some Swedish chocolate and it’s the best their Marabou orange, mint and milk chocolate is amazing but it makes shit Cadbury’s Dairy milk!

Nicest thing I’ve found recently is the Daim rolo type things they sell in IKEA. Very moreish though

Oooh I love these ❤️🐖

Mini eggs have been awful ever since they took the brown ones out, they haven't tasted the same for ages.

thread reminded me I had a bar of lidl dark chocolate
sharp crack when you break it, no palm oil, no plastic in the wrapping,
and tastes v good

I love lidle and also aldi choceur chocolate now; far superior.

Considering that Aldi and Lidl can apparently still make very good quality, delicious, proper-tasting chocolate - and sold at very reasonable, affordable prices, often less than Cadbury's - it does rather suggest that Mondelez haven't just made difficult decisions in order to stay afloat/reasonably profitable in dire, cut-throat financial circumstances; but rather that they've deliberately cut every single penny they can, showing utter disdain to the customers, to greedily maximise their profits to the absolute utmost.

It would be the easiest thing in the world for them to claim that they focus on 'standard everyday' chocolate and that you can pay much higher prices for a premium, better-quality offering - but for the fact that Aldi and Lidl prove this as patently untrue.

Unless they're somehow suggesting that two supermarkets - appearing much later in the global market - and offering a whole range of groceries and household goods are nevertheless much more skilled at making chocolate than a company with over a century of experience in making chocolate and nothing else....

If they have a justification for their actions other than plain maximum greed, I'd love to hear it. And insistences that it's exactly the same as it's always been simply won't wash, I'm afraid.

Not sure it it helps, OP, but they didn't stop at the British chocolate. I am not British - Mondelez bought a brand from my childhood and ruined it too!

Which brand? Is it Milka?

I don’t like Tony’s, it has a weird cloying taste and the shape of it really irritates me, you can’t break an even piece off. I kept trying it as felt it should be nicer than it is, but nope.

Really like Ritter and M&S chocolate.

Here are the ingredients of australian-made Dairy Milk - no palm oil. Unfortunately it's a difficult choice here between refrigerated (ewwww) chocolate and a ready to drink chocolate if you leave it in the kitchen cupboard!

I could offer to send you all some Whittakers chocolate from NZ - but I'm not going to, sorry. Best in the world!

You can buy Australian cadburys chocolate over here and it has no palm oil! I've found a few different ones in B&M so much nicer than our U.K. Cadbury chocolate.

The UK stuff must be truly horrible if Aussie Cadburys is so much nicer

Cadbury's have said that the mini egg recipe hasn't changed.

I wonder whether at least some of the people who think they taste horrible now are imagining it because they assume Kraft have changed them, or got a duff bag.

Haven't you noticed they changed the tag line. Cadbury's used to be 'a glass and a half of milk in every half pound bar'.

Today's version includes 'the equivalent of ...' which means dried milk powder. Served with palm oil and cheap corn syrup. Tastes truly vile.