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To refuse to make 8.5YO DD anything else for dinner?

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user1488481370 · 24/01/2022 19:33

I spent over an hour making dinner tonight in a freezing cold kitchen with no heating.

DD didn’t touch hers, didn’t even try it. Demanded I make her some super noodles instead and then hit me because I wasn’t getting up to do it straight away. I told her she can go into the kitchen herself and make some toast if she’s hungry with that attitude. She’s sat sobbing and I feel awful now 😫

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anotherbloodyyearofcovid · 26/01/2022 03:02

@sadpapercourtesan

It sounds like there is more going on than just a poorly-received meal. You're cooking in a freezing kitchen with no heating, you must be stressed out and it sounds as though she might be as well. I would make her some toast, then sit down with her for a proper talk about how she's feeling and what led to the outburst - as part of that of course she would be sternly reminded that hitting out is never the right answer. I would probably not punish her, though. I'd be more interested in helping her understand and manage her feelings, because she's struggling to.
Agree with this. Poor kid is lashing out because she's stressed and 'hangry'. Just give her noodles or toast or whatever you know she'll eat for a quiet life.
PinkSyCo · 26/01/2022 04:24

Did she have a snack after school, or has she waited since school to eat?

I know my DC is a different person when tired & hungry like me

The kid’s 8. Kids of that age are allowed, nope scrub that, SUPPOSED to be hungry before dinner ffs.

PinkSyCo · 26/01/2022 04:26

Agree with this. Poor kid is lashing out because she's stressed and 'hangry'. Just give her noodles or toast or whatever you know she'll eat for a quiet life.

Fucking hell. 🤦🏽‍♀️

Aspergirl77 · 26/01/2022 07:11

I cook one dinner for the family, if our 2 sons (13 &10) turn their noses up at dinner time and either pick about with it or leave it (which is extremely rare tbh), they’re asked to get down from the table and not offered an alternative. I’m not a monster though as I’d never let them go hungry, I usually wait a reasonable period of time e.g. after all the tidying up is done and I’ve had a cuppa, and I offer a light snack like fruit and yoghurt, toast or some cereals. We’ve always had this approach and it’s worked well for us, as it has allowed us to be firm about the ‘consequences’ of not trying/refusing foods whilst not starving them! Smile. As they’ve got older I’ve also got them involved in meal planning for the week and this has helped them think about the reasons why we have various dinners (each of us has meal preferences and we have to be considerate of that). They think it’s great when it’s their choice served up for dinner!

RantyAunty · 26/01/2022 08:09

She's witnessed a lot of abuse.

I don't understand the concept of repeatedly making something you know she doesn't like. Why would you keep putting the bits she doesn't like on her plate when you know she doesn't like them?

Do you make things you and your DH don't like and keep serving it up?

Can you make things that everyone reasonably likes? or just not put the parts she doesn't like on her plate?

And try to stop yelling at her so much. It's really scary.

RobertSmithsLipstick · 26/01/2022 08:16

Yelling?
The op said she had told her daughter she wouldn't be cooking anything else for her.

Mummyoflittledragon · 26/01/2022 08:31

In regards to putting things on her plate she doesn’t like, that’s how I parent, I always put a little bit of everything on their plates… I’m not going to stop doing that.

This worked as long as your dd felt safe. She doesn’t feel safe right now and you admit that yourself:

she’s gone from a very happy, well-behaved little girl to angry, sulky and short-tempered within a matter of months

She has had a lot of change and witnessed nasty abuse. This means she needs extra loving care, not a mum, who is doing what she’s always done.

She’s already struggling and have taken something away she was really looking forward to you. It would have been far better to have discussed the hitting and attitude with her. And looked at your behaviour as well. Not adapting to her suffering is punishing her for being abused.

You said yourself your parents were very harsh. Not adapting your parenting when your child is crying out is also very harsh. Do you want your kids to grow up believing their mum is harsh?

I’ve always said I’ll cook one meal and one meal only. I just hate the idea of sending her to bed hungry.

Right now you need to parent differently. I don’t think you should 100% have red lines right now. At the very least, the meal should be something familiar, which makes her feel safe.

My mother had the ungrateful child, you had it so much better than me attitude toward me. Except I didn’t have it better than her. She learned the concept of unconditional love, which I never had. Don’t be that mother comparing their childhood to yours and setting your benchmark as better than your mother so all fine.

NoOtherShadeOfBlue · 26/01/2022 08:49

Your parents were unkind to you and you want to be the opposite for your daughter. But ut isn't kindness to let children have all the control - choosing dinner, giving commands and hitting when they don't get their way. It's kind to enforce boundaries, teach empathy and gratitude and have rules. Sometimes we think we are being kind, loving parents because we give in instead of being inflexible and angry like our parents were. It really isn't. There has to be a middle ground. It does kids no favours going into school when they're the ones used to giving the orders at home. For her own sake, she needs to know better.

Embracelife · 26/01/2022 08:57

@user1488481370

We’ve recently had to move house thanks to violent and aggressive behaviour from our in-laws. The DC’s didn’t witness any of the violence as such but they’ve been glared at, shouted and sworn at and had their toys damaged/defaced. BIL also has a criminal record for GBH against DP (DD’s dad) which happened before DD was born but was fetched into conversation recently when BIL was confrontational with DP and said ‘I only hit you because you gave our mother a black eye,’ which was completely false. DD was very upset by this and asked me if it was true to which i told her it wasn’t, otherwise daddy would’ve had the conviction not her uncle.

I can honestly say DP has never raised a hand to myself or our children and if he ever did we’d be gone the same hour!

The attitude from DD isn’t new, the hitting out is. She’s always been strong willed but up until last year I’d have always said she wouldn’t hurt a fly.
I’ll be honest and say I don’t always deal with things in the best way with her. We have two other very young children, I’m often rather fraught, still haven’t properly unpacked and have a tendency to yell when I’m overwhelmed (this is usually after several attempts of being calm and trying to explain things nicely) but I definitely don’t help the situation at times.

The school DD attends has also had a major change round (they’ve changed buildings completely) and she’s really struggled with this, usually she wouldn’t bat an eye about it.

There is clearly a lot going on This was behaviour as communication This was not about food She is 8 Stay calm Listen , go for a walk with her let her talk Read "how to talk so kids will listen" Say "We do not hit" calmly

She s heard adults talk about hitting people

Take her to soft play and engage try to listen to the bigger picture of her feelings and life
See family therapist with her

granny24 · 26/01/2022 09:02

Listen to user. Much the best advice.

Embracelife · 26/01/2022 09:02

*dcs have had their toys damaged"...

Agree with pp who said serve food they like
Make home a safe place
Do not yell
Everyone is reacting to stressful situation
But op is the adult
Seek help and support
Don't stop soft play but use the opportunity to listen and engage

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