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Boris Johnson’s birthday party

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Cheekypeach · 24/01/2022 18:34

Here we go again…

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HeddaGarbled · 26/01/2022 00:28

I live in a constituency that had never been Conservative, always Labour, and in rhe 2019 GE it went to the Conservatives (narrowly by around 800 votes but still a win for them). Central government seems to forget that people often vote on local basis and on local issues especially if they feel far removed from London-centric policies

It was Brexit that swung it though, wasn’t it?

StoneofDestiny · 26/01/2022 00:40

MP's regularly tell us they need higher pay as they work so hard and have such long hours. This constant partying knocks that on the head

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/01/2022 06:44

I feel Starmer would be a much safer pair of hands than virtually anyone likely to succeed Johnson

Very possibly, but it's not just about the leader and Labour have extremists too, who'd no doubt all come storming in on the back of a more "popular" face

In light of who funds the party, whether Starmer could keep them in check is an open question, but I'm no more keen on what it could look like than I am on the Conservatives

Hospedia · 26/01/2022 07:17

It was Brexit that swung it though, wasn’t it?

Based on things said at the time and since, not for my area it wasn't. People felt the area had been neglected by the Labour MP and that he wasn't bothered about the constituency so when the Conservative MP promised investment, went out and chatted with people, looked like he cared bout the area, they voted for him because (to quote more than one resident) "its time to give someone else a turn".

liveforsummer · 26/01/2022 07:18

Are they not allowed to eat? Or only allowed to eat particular types of food? Were those people legitimately already at Downing Street - if so, where/how should they have been fed? Should they have eaten in separate offices or something? I honestly don't know but it seems strange to keep defining every single allegation as a 'party' unless you're trying to create a narrative

Well if there were scotch eggs there, we know BJ classed that as a 'substantial meal'. Yes they should have eaten in separate offices, elsewhere staff rooms were closed. Teachers were eating in their cars or in their classrooms

Roussette · 26/01/2022 07:30

They set up a buffet in the Cabinet office. On the large oval table. I'm sure staff there are quite capable of feeding themselves and not dying of hunger on the job without a buffet and cake being provided!

JustJam4Tea · 26/01/2022 07:47

According to the standard they were treating the 100 odd rooms and 3 premises that makeup Downing Street and cabinet office as a big household bubble. So why couldn’t teachers do that rather than sitting in rooms alone. Office workers in in shifts, nurses etc.

They were setting the rules that police etc were enforcing, they should have been clear, and yes they were working hard , but not as hard as many other people….and no5 sat at home on own trying to work, home school kids and worrying about elderly parents on their own. Fuckers.

Howshouldibehave · 26/01/2022 07:50

Should they have eaten in separate offices or something?

Yes-exactly this. Like everyone else was supposed to.

Staffrooms were closed across the country as people weren’t allowed to all eat together. I can’t work out if you are being deliberately obtuse or not?

guinnessguzzler · 26/01/2022 08:04

Also, should they have even shared the cake? I thought at that point any food sharing was out?

MooSakah · 26/01/2022 08:06

@guinnessguzzler

Also, should they have even shared the cake? I thought at that point any food sharing was out?
I remember Chris Whitty being a bit like..even at BBQs be careful and use seperate utensils and don't pass stuff round can't remember when that was.
DGRossetti · 26/01/2022 08:29

What was it that led to the Tories losing in 1997?

People born in 1979 had a vote ?

Alexandra2001 · 26/01/2022 08:41

@Howshouldibehave

Should they have eaten in separate offices or something?

Yes-exactly this. Like everyone else was supposed to.

Staffrooms were closed across the country as people weren’t allowed to all eat together. I can’t work out if you are being deliberately obtuse or not?

A friend of mine, a CEO, had a tent outside for the canteen, SD strictly applied, only one in any office at a time... a manager didn't think this applied to him and was sacked.

I think some people have forgotten the sorts of restrictions we were under in spring 2020.

Peregrina · 26/01/2022 08:43

Not just losing though in 1997, but absolutely thrashed. Blair had set out to make Labour electable though, and was maintaining tight discipline in the party. He also had the ear of Murdoch.

As for Labour MPs taking their areas for granted and losing - I hope this time this happens in those Tory areas with the proverbial pigs in blue rosettes getting elected.

Roussette · 26/01/2022 09:02

I think some people have forgotten the sorts of restrictions we were under in spring 2020

I so agree with this. There's a collective amnesia out there....

oh, he just had a birthday cake with the people he worked with. 30 of them? (banned) Singing? (banned) Table set up with a buffet (banned)

And some people are forgetting the other parties. 50 outside with drinks in the most stringent lockdown.
Basement disco going on till 1 am then spilling out into the garden.

ANY justification of this is just pathetic.

countrygirl99 · 26/01/2022 09:05

@guinnessguzzler

Also, should they have even shared the cake? I thought at that point any food sharing was out?
Im worried that the only way to bring the legions of Mumsnet out in force against him is to suggest that he blew out the candles without using cling film/ a separate cupcake/ potato for them.
CryingAtTheDiscotheque · 26/01/2022 09:08

I agree about the amnesia - I’ve sometimes wondered if people are getting mixed up between 2020 and 2021 restrictions.
I can remember Late May 2020 v clearly - it was my son’s 18th. . He didn’t get a party and wasn’t ambushed by a cake.

RockingMyFiftiesNot · 26/01/2022 09:09

@Howshouldibehave

Should they have eaten in separate offices or something?

Yes-exactly this. Like everyone else was supposed to.

Staffrooms were closed across the country as people weren’t allowed to all eat together. I can’t work out if you are being deliberately obtuse or not?

'Work from home if you can' was true for them too. They should have been having zoom meetings like everyone else. Most of them shouldn't have even been there.
the80sweregreat · 26/01/2022 09:09

The bubbles were very strict in our school!

thelittlestrhino · 26/01/2022 09:17

@the80sweregreat

The bubbles were very strict in our school!
So were ours! I felt bad for the littlies I taught; no birthday parties, no food (cake) could be brought in, no singing of happy birthday allowed.

Staff here were also not allowed in the staffroom or to go into each others classrooms.

the80sweregreat · 26/01/2022 09:25

If it's discovered that the Johnson's cleaner own and actually use a loo brush , then they will both be toast! The horror ( not breaking rules or being ambushed by birthday cakes or getting their bubbles mixed up from their champagne or now having the Met ' finest ' on their case etc, oh no )

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 26/01/2022 09:42

@Puzzledandpissedoff

I feel Starmer would be a much safer pair of hands than virtually anyone likely to succeed Johnson

Very possibly, but it's not just about the leader and Labour have extremists too, who'd no doubt all come storming in on the back of a more "popular" face

In light of who funds the party, whether Starmer could keep them in check is an open question, but I'm no more keen on what it could look like than I am on the Conservatives

The thought of this frightens me.
Blossomtoes · 26/01/2022 09:54

The thought of this frightens me.

The current state of affairs frightens me more.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/01/2022 09:56

Not just losing though in 1997, but absolutely thrashed. Blair had set out to make Labour electable though, and was maintaining tight discipline in the party. He also had the ear of Murdoch

As for Labour MPs taking their areas for granted and losing - I hope this time this happens in those Tory areas with the proverbial pigs in blue rosettes getting elected

Spot on in all of it, Peregrina. Blair may also have been a pig in some ways, but at least he was a pig who found a way to bat off the extremists and drive the party towards widespread appeal

Trouble is those extremists don't just disappear; they lurk waiting for their next way in, as we saw with Corbyn in charge and are seeing again now withn Boris
I'd like to think Starmer's the answer but am not yet convinced, so here's yet another homeless voter

countrygirl99 · 26/01/2022 09:59

DS1 didn't see his girlfriend for weeks until socially distanced walks were allowed.
I didn't see my frail elderly parents for weeks because they were terrified I would be arrested driving over. Finally they had an emergency around the time of Johnson's party and allowed me over to give the help they needed, but only once a fortnight in case I got stopped. Social isolation really worsened mum's dementia.

SilentNoMore · 26/01/2022 10:01

As far as I understood it the problem with Blair Labour votes is that they needed a decent amount of Scottish support, which has now disappeared. Blair needed Scotland to govern. Current Labour will not get that support

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