Does shone rhyme with dawn or zone?

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DD has been told she's saying it wrong - may be both as used in different places?

[quote phoenixrosehere]@HaveringWavering

So what is “gwan”?[/quote]
It’s my way of writing the way that Mrs Doyle says “go on”.

My point was that in my accent, if “gone” was pronounced as “one, with a g in front of it” like others say they do, it would sound like “gwun” or “gwan”. Which is a bit similar to Mrs. Doyle saying “go on”.

Rhymes with Don

@NamechangeApril21

LemonViolet
One is like on/con for me! How do they say “BBC1” or “The One Show”, they don’t say “wun” do they?!?
In my head, for them to rhyme they'd need to call it the On show

Your head's confused then

Say the word "on". Now add a -w- to the beginning and say that. It will sound the way Jonathan Ross would pronounce the name "Ron". It rhymes with "con", and it's how the the word "one" is pronounced in many accents.

Shone rhymes with gone. As does scone for me.

@Thethingswedoforlove

Neither/ it rhymes with gone

This. But obviously regional accents will be different so other people may be saying something else, but I've never heard it.rhyme with either.

Shone does not rhyme with one! In my accent anyway!!

One rhymes with fun and gun. Fun and gun do not rhyme with shone.

I can’t believe this is still going.

@LastChristmasIGaveYouMyHeart

Shone does not rhyme with one! In my accent anyway!!

One rhymes with fun and gun. Fun and gun do not rhyme with shone.

One rhymes with shone. One does not rhyme with gun.

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@crazyjinglist

So you’re not weird but maybe have a better ear?

Hmm maybe. I'm a language teacher, which probably helps! It might also make me a bit more tolerant and less insistent about things only being correct when they're pronounced in one particular way, I guess. I spend my time hearing people talk in languages they don't speak very well , which contain sounds that don't even exist in their native language!

Plus of course, when you're teaching a foreign language - e.g. Spanish - what regional 'flavour' of Spanish do you teach? I say 'gracias' with a 'th' in the middle, but how can I tell my students it's wrong to say it with a 's' if gazillions of Spanish speakers say it that way?

Haha I learned Spanish from a teacher from Barthalona so I’m totally team ‘th’ but I know what you mean. I’m more likely to hear Spanish from speakers who don’t use ‘th’ and it makes me feel like a bit of a twat if I try to reply.

Since when did shone rhyme with one??

@SpookyScarySkeletons

Since when did shone rhyme with one??

Haha this thread is just one endless circle. That is how half of us say one.

@LizBennet

Nooo, done rhymes with sun (but not one, which rhymes with none) 😂

Those all rhyme for me 😂😂😂

Gone has a much longer sound than one (wun/sun/fun)

Gohhn

@aSofaNearYou, if half the population pronounce one and shone the same, how come the rest of us never notice? I do notice when people have different accents, as a Scot I know I pronounce shorn differently to my late ma in law, a Londoner. She also pronounced words such as loch with a hard k, as in lock. She would also add an r sound to the end of some words, for instance ‘law and order’ would sound like ‘Laura Norder’.

[quote Seymour5]@aSofaNearYou, if half the population pronounce one and shone the same, how come the rest of us never notice? I do notice when people have different accents, as a Scot I know I pronounce shorn differently to my late ma in law, a Londoner. She also pronounced words such as loch with a hard k, as in lock. She would also add an r sound to the end of some words, for instance ‘law and order’ would sound like ‘Laura Norder’.[/quote]
The same is true in reverse. I rhyme them and I've never noticed people not doing so, a lot of people on this thread have said the same.

@Thethingswedoforlove

Neither/ it rhymes with gone

Agree

[quote Seymour5]@aSofaNearYou, if half the population pronounce one and shone the same, how come the rest of us never notice? I do notice when people have different accents, as a Scot I know I pronounce shorn differently to my late ma in law, a Londoner. She also pronounced words such as loch with a hard k, as in lock. She would also add an r sound to the end of some words, for instance ‘law and order’ would sound like ‘Laura Norder’.[/quote]
Oh yes this is called the Intrusive R!

Hosannah Rin Excelsis!

Yes, and our brave Olympians Jessiccarennis, Rebecarradlington and Nicolaradams.

[quote Seymour5]@aSofaNearYou, if half the population pronounce one and shone the same, how come the rest of us never notice? I do notice when people have different accents, as a Scot I know I pronounce shorn differently to my late ma in law, a Londoner. She also pronounced words such as loch with a hard k, as in lock. She would also add an r sound to the end of some words, for instance ‘law and order’ would sound like ‘Laura Norder’.[/quote]
I’ve also never noticed that lots of people rhyme ‘one’ with ‘bun’ before and yet here we are.

To make it even more complicated though, since reading this thread I’ve realised that I do pronounce ‘none’ to rhyme with ‘bun’! But never ever ‘one’. That always rhymes with ‘gone’. Lol.

@nevergoesaway

To make it even more complicated though, since reading this thread I’ve realised that I do pronounce ‘none’ to rhyme with ‘bun’! But never ever ‘one’. That always rhymes with ‘gone’. Lol.

Me too, none and done rhyme with bun but one and gone do not.

I do quite often hear people pronounce none as "non", though, so that one isn't news to me, but the way people on here pronounce "one" definitely is!

Urban NSW, Aust here. Mind absolutely blown by the idea of one rhyming with gone. Every day’s a school day!

Here:
One/won/bun/sun
Shone/con/scone/wan/John
Dawn/fawn/corn (non-rhotic)
Gone has a slightly longer vowel sound and doesn’t exactly rhyme with shone
Scone rhymes with con for me but with cone for people from other regions or with parents from other regions.

I had never noticed “shone” being a homophone with “shown” in the US and will have to pay attention.

@nevergoesaway

To make it even more complicated though, since reading this thread I’ve realised that I do pronounce ‘none’ to rhyme with ‘bun’! But never ever ‘one’. That always rhymes with ‘gone’. Lol.

Very good point!

Yes one is wan and none is nun!

All you can say about English pronunciation is that there no rules, I think.

Yes agree, I used to get very exercised about “correct” pronunciation but now I just say wearily to the kids “it’s a perfectly acceptable regional variation BUT IN THIS FAMILY WE SAY AITCH!”.

It won’t let me quote you @aSofaNearYou but yep same here, I know a few people who pronounce ‘none’ to rhyme with ‘one’!

@JuergenSchwarzwald yes haha the English language really is a free for all! 🤪

@Thethingswedoforlove

Neither/ it rhymes with gone

Agree with this!