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Why does no one talk about how hard it is leaving the “good guy”

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CJCW17 · 22/01/2022 02:58

Me and my partner have been together for 10 years, we have a 5 year old, for the last year things haven’t been great.
He’s a great father and for all intents and purposes he’s a good guy, but for the last few years he has become less and less present, He became less tolerant of normal day to day things, work was awful for him, he would tell me how he just wanted to be able to be alone, so I would arrange to have the house empty but that day alone would never be long enough, I would come home and have comments like “I hate that because I was enjoying myself the day has gone too quickly” “I wish you would leave me alone more often”. Our kiddo was in full time childcare so he would only need to actively “parent” at the weekends and it would be too much for him. Last summer things came to a head when he said the thought of going into work made him suicidal. I immediately told him to get signed off, if he didn’t want to go back I would find a way to financially support us until he found something more appropriate, I helped him contact his doctors, referred him to therapy, I was his point of contact for work as the anxiety was too much for him, I then started paying for him to go to college so he could retrain and I asked him to start looking for part time work to help fund this, he didn’t really look, I would apply for things for him but he would conveniently miss the callback, or forget to email them something so everything was a non starter. One of the things I asked was that if I was going to be working 2 jobs so he didn’t have to have one is that he just picked up extra chores around the house, I don’t want to be coming home to a house that’s awful when I’m working 7 days a week.
This did not happen, when ever I had a day of annual leave I would be sorting out everything. I sort all the bills, all childcare is arranged by me, anything to do with school is me, anything for our son is planned through me:. It basically came to a point where I was mothering him, but he still wanted to be intimate, I really struggled with this - you want me to look after you like parent does but at the end of the day have sex with you? No. I’ve mentioned this to him, and nothing has changed, I don’t know what to do. He’s a kind guy and a great dad, he’s depressed so I can’t actively blame him and I look awful if I do but I am burning out and I’m burning out fast. I have no desire around him; I feel the ick when he wants to cuddle or hold hands. I don’t know what My point is I guess, I more just want to know am I being unreasonable? I want to support him but do I do it at detriment to myself? What do I do?

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Crowdfundingforcake · 22/01/2022 07:05

Read back what you've written and imagine a friend telling you that story. Would you be telling your friend 'Oh, but he's such a good guy. You should carry on supporting him financially and emotionally and doing all the housework - and have sex with him whenever he wants.' No, of course you wouldn't, you'd be telling her he's a waste of space and to get the hell out.

Having depression, especially if you're not making any effort to combat it, isn't a free ticket to being an arse.

EllaDuggee · 22/01/2022 07:08

I can't see from what you've written why you describe him as a good guy? He tells you he doesn't want you there as he was enjoying being alone, that is not being nice or a good guy. He can't handle parenting at the weekend, that is not the definition of a great dad.
Is he taking medication, going to the therapy? How severe is the mental .illness? I think you need to give him an ultimatum that he starts taking more responsibilty and steps to help himself or he will need to leave. It could be very small steps depending on how ill he is. You
have done everything you can to help him. He needs to make some effort in return.

Buildingthefuture · 22/01/2022 07:09

You sound like a lovely, supportive partner op. But he sounds like an asshole! Unfortunately you are enabling this man-child and allowing him to do absolutely nothing to improve his life or yours. Like you, that would give me the massive ick and I wouldn’t want him near me either!!
Tell him it either changes TODAY right now, or you will separate. And mean it. Set your boundaries and stick to them. I cannot imagine he’s suddenly going to change into a totally different person, so start making plans to get out and make a much better life for yourself. You deserve more.

GaryLurcher19 · 22/01/2022 07:11

OP, I'm so sorry. What a difficult situation. There's no sensitive way to put this but he's not a good guy, great dad or kind. He sounds like a self-centred arse, tbh. If something doesn't give, you'll be depressed, and then you and little one will be in a bad position because you're the only adult at the moment.

bibop · 22/01/2022 07:15

He's not the good guy.

bibop · 22/01/2022 07:16

I'm wondering why you are describing him this way?

Nomoreporridge872 · 22/01/2022 07:20

Please don’t just let this situation coast long. You are both teaching your child that this kind of behaviour and relationship are acceptable. Do you want your son to have this kind of relationship with his future wife?

Nomoreporridge872 · 22/01/2022 07:22

From the amount you have taken on I wonder if you have difficulty ever being ‘in the wrong’? Maybe your parents made you feel like you had to be the perfect daughter? I don’t know but there are reasons you are tolerating this. It’s not inevitable. Some people would have walked away long ago

PonyPatter44 · 22/01/2022 07:23

Just to echo everyone else, he really doesn't sound like a good guy. Literally nothing you've written makes him sound decent in any way. He's a shitty dad,a shitty husband, a shitty provider, a shitty housekeeper...where is the "good" bit?

Lots of adults have mental health problems, but functioning adults have to go and get help for them. They can't just wallow about being ill when they have families who need them.

billy1966 · 22/01/2022 07:29

He is NOT a good man.

He is a loser.

Shit partner.

Shit parent.

Stop hesitating.

Get away from him.

He is using you.

Stop spending money on him.

Flowers
SarahBellam · 22/01/2022 07:30

He’s used his depression to completely absolve himself of any work or responsibility. Loads of people with depression still manage to hold down a job or do a bit of tidying. I’ve had it myself so I know it can be hard, but he should be on antidepressants, seeking therapy and trying to help himself get better. It sounds like he’d be better off living alone.

Chasingaftermidnight · 22/01/2022 07:33

Is he a ‘good guy’ because he doesn’t hit you or cheat on you? Because that’s about the lowest bar there is.

CharityDingle · 22/01/2022 07:34

and have comments like “I hate that because I was enjoying myself the day has gone too quickly” “I wish you would leave me alone more often”.

'Mummy, make the day not go so quickly.' He sounds like a petulant child.
No, you can't continue like this. Start making plans to separate.

rainrainraincamedowndowndown · 22/01/2022 07:34

I don't think he is a good guy at all. Sounds like very self centered immature person. You are not his parents.

CharityDingle · 22/01/2022 07:35

@SarahBellam

He’s used his depression to completely absolve himself of any work or responsibility. Loads of people with depression still manage to hold down a job or do a bit of tidying. I’ve had it myself so I know it can be hard, but he should be on antidepressants, seeking therapy and trying to help himself get better. It sounds like he’d be better off living alone.
Agreed.

Equally importantly, the OP would be better off without him.

Totalwasteofpaper · 22/01/2022 07:35

@arcof

He doesn't sound like that much of a good guy!
This.

I thought you were going to say something ie...he is totally in love with you and a devoted husband and father, who is a high earner and provides an amazing idyllic lifestyle for you and the kids and treats you like a queen YET you think something is missing.

What you describe is a pretty lame partner who is happy to fuck act while and cry wolf while you do the hard yards and adilting.

In my marriage that is not what either of us signed up for and would notbbe okay.
If my DH behaved like this I'd be losing my mind and he'd be in notice - if I was behaving like your DH I'd expect the same in return frankly.

He sounds like a crap dad and a crap husband.

Goldbar · 22/01/2022 07:38

When do you get anything you want/need in this relationship?

Why are you expected just to endlessly give while he endlessly takes?

I couldn't be with someone who can't cope with their child. My DH is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but I can walk out and leave him and DC and come back at the end of the day and they've managed to amuse themselves quite happily. I think this would be something that I would walk out over...a parent who can't actually 'parent' is a complete waste of space.

And as for not doing the chores/cleaning up after himself so you have to do it when you get back from working 2 jobs (after he's done NOTHING all day)...it's hard not to interpret this as a big "fuck you" aimed straight at you. It shows that he just doesn't care about you at all.

SirChenjins · 22/01/2022 07:39

He’s not a good guy at all. In fact, he sounds like my dad who spent his entire life making it clear that we were just an irritation, that he wanted to be on his own with his depression that he didn’t get help for, that he hated work (and where we lived, and my mum wanting to see her family or have friends, and our friends being in the house and on and on and on…). Honestly, get out now and give yourself (and your DD) a chance of happiness without him dragging you down for the rest of your life - which is what will happen.

MsMeNz · 22/01/2022 07:40

You aren't been unreasonable, I get everyone has down times in their life but that person has to put some effort in. Back when we were hunter gathers you didn't pitch in you were left behind. But he has no reason to dig deep and sort things out as all his need are provided to him from you. (Enabling him)

Cut him loose on your terms and feel the burned lift somewhat, you will have to juggle for a while but as someone else said if possible outsource some stuff, get a cleaner once a week, share picks up and drips with a relative or other kids parents etc. All the best.

Hmum0fthree · 22/01/2022 07:41

No thanks run run run

Turmerictolly · 22/01/2022 07:42

Is he on medication for his depression?

OakRowan · 22/01/2022 07:46

He is treating you like shit, even before he started with talking about suicide, manipulating you so he can have alone time in the house, youbhaving to stay away, awful. The rest of it he is using you, your are doing far far too much for him and it isn't helping him, its the opposite, you are enabling him. Agree with everyone, he is not good or kind, he's not good for you or your child, he is not a good parent at all. What is he doing for himself, seeking treatment, looking after himself, actively looking for recovery and improvement, managing his 'condition'? He has made it all your responsibility and he you have accepted it, neither of those are healthy or normal. He is selfish and lazy, even if he is unhappy he should be doing everything he can for his family by getting well and getting work. Get out of this situation, he can move back in with his mum if he needs babying.

Goldbar · 22/01/2022 07:47

Also, your thread title talks about how hard leaving will be. But it will be a lot easier for you to leave than most people... you earn all the money, you do most of the chores and you do most of the childcare. If anything, it sounds like it would be easier for you to leaving than to stay as you won't have to deal with his mess or his passive aggression when you hang out in YOUR house. And you won't have to deal with being pressured to have sex when you don't want to.

GaryLurcher19 · 22/01/2022 07:47

Just to add a little,

His mental health doesn't excuse him his responsibilities as an adult and parent. It might mean he needs a bit of 'reasonable adaptation', but the responsibilities are still as much his as yours. Your own mental health isn't bullet-proof because he's decided his is fragile.

I dealt with severe depression and PTSD when my boys were small and I was single, going through an unnecessarily costly and acrimonious divorce. I still cleaned our home, cooked meals and played with/read to my boys and went to work. I had no choice.

Your man has made lumbering you his 'choice'. Ironically, feeling 'needed' and 'useful' has a protective effect against depression and its worst sequelae. He should try to be more engaged with his responsibilities for his own benefit as well as his family's.

If he can't step up to try to help himself, you need to put you and your child first. You may need to protect your own mental health by cutting him loose.

I really do sympathise OP. Do not feel guilty! None of this is your choice or fault.

Fhee · 22/01/2022 07:49

To be fair to the OP she does put “good guy” in “” in the title. I think she is fully fed up with him but is worried about push back from others if she left, having to explain leaving a “good guy” who happens to be suffering depression.