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To be really enjoying Boris Johnson's downfall Part 2

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ClaudineClare · 21/01/2022 22:57

A follow on thread from

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Piggywaspushed · 25/01/2022 08:41

Not a culture minister - the Culture secretary

And, sadly, my MP.

She was actually in the constituency last week and-in a very short Twitter post- manged to spell two place names incorrectly. She was literally standing in front of a station sign in the photo!

Piggywaspushed · 25/01/2022 08:43

On the subject of singing - earlier that day, the PM had been at a primary school where the children had sung Happy Birthday to him...

ancientgran · 25/01/2022 08:52

@Piggywaspushed

On the subject of singing - earlier that day, the PM had been at a primary school where the children had sung Happy Birthday to him...
I'd be furious if I had a child at a school where they were used as a publicity stunt for the PM. It has the look of organised support for the leader in somewhere like North Korea. Kids shouldn't be used like this, not just for BJ but for any political figure.
ancientgran · 25/01/2022 08:55

@ClaudineClare

Blossomtoes yes, he did lie through his teeth. All that guff about doorstepping and no-one being bothered about Partygate, but worried about Ukraine instead. That is clearly the Tory line to take, a line which was used by someone on this thread earlier today, if I remember rightly. Funny that.
I kept hoping one of his constituents would phone the BBC and say he'd been on their doorstep and had definitely heard complaints about BJ and his parties. Surely there must be some people who can prove he is being economical with the truth.
SueSaid · 25/01/2022 09:00

'On the subject of singing - earlier that day, the PM had been at a primary school where the children had sung Happy Birthday to him...'

what?

This crisis just deepens doesn't it Shock.

Piggywaspushed · 25/01/2022 09:00

It's all very our Leader Comrade Napoleon , ancient. Orwell needs to come back from the grave to see how prescient he was.

SueSaid · 25/01/2022 09:07

'Have I pre-empted the latest line from our friendly fanboys?'

So I'm a 'fanboy' because I do not believe eating birthday cake for 10mins is attending a party. Riiight. I'm going to have a party at Costas later on. 3 people, cake 20mins it's a party yes?

The telly reporters need to get their heads out of their silly arses and start focusing very serious problems like what is developing in Ukraine.

Notonthestairs · 25/01/2022 09:12

The party wasn't limited to Johnson. It went on longer and he knew all about it. PM's Twitter account was fairly busy but funnily enough they didn't use this party as a photo opportunity.
Not to mention the party in the flat for friends of the family. We are a very long way from "all guidelines were followed."

Peregrina · 25/01/2022 09:15

Besides which, if this ten minute party which wasn't, was held in the Cabinet Office, what was Carrie doing there? She doesn't work in Downing Street.

DontWantTheRivalry · 25/01/2022 09:16

This has to be the end for him now?

Surely he will do the decent thing and resign? He surely can’t believe he has any credibility now?

The Conservative Party must be so filled with shame.

Roussette · 25/01/2022 09:17

Ahhh Ukraine is now the new diversionary tactic so we don't look at rule breaking on a massive scale

Perhaps the Tories should've thought of that before the 18 events/parties/gatherings

Trilley · 25/01/2022 09:21

@JaniieJones

'Have I pre-empted the latest line from our friendly fanboys?'

So I'm a 'fanboy' because I do not believe eating birthday cake for 10mins is attending a party. Riiight. I'm going to have a party at Costas later on. 3 people, cake 20mins it's a party yes?

The telly reporters need to get their heads out of their silly arses and start focusing very serious problems like what is developing in Ukraine.

It's totally irrelevant whether it was a party. The point was that, at the time, you couldn't have a work gathering unless it was reasonably necessary for work. Blatantly this wasn't.

The rules were in place and the economy was being tanked to stop the spread of a virus which, at times, was causing around five thousand deaths a week in the UK alone. Yet the people in charge of those rules were putting two fingers up to them. If you don't think that level of deaths is a "very serious problem" there is something wrong with you.

Florianus · 25/01/2022 09:21

@Peregrina

Besides which, if this ten minute party which wasn't, was held in the Cabinet Office, what was Carrie doing there? She doesn't work in Downing Street.
Didn't Dominic Cummings call Carrie 'Princess Nut Nut' because he thought she made many of the decisions in No,10 ?
SueSaid · 25/01/2022 09:22

'Ahhh Ukraine is now the new diversionary tactic so we don't look at rule breaking on a massive scale'

Not so much a 'new diversionary tactic' just surely worthy of some of the rabid reporting they are poring into their shaky definitions of 'parties'.

longwayoff · 25/01/2022 09:24

Do the decent thing? Don't hold your breath please.

Florianus · 25/01/2022 09:27

@DontWantTheRivalry

This has to be the end for him now?

Surely he will do the decent thing and resign? He surely can’t believe he has any credibility now?

The Conservative Party must be so filled with shame.

It's said that he would relish a leadership challenge, belieing (whether rightly or wrongly) that he would win.

I have just heard from our eldest son and daughter-in-law, who are both clued-up university professors in the USA, and who tell me that they think Trump is almost certain to win the 2024 presidential election - primaily because of the ineffective Democratic opposition. Keir Starmer - beware!

Roussette · 25/01/2022 09:32

Personally Janiie I am managing to keep abreast of both situations.
Everything I look at is covering both

Flowertailbird · 25/01/2022 09:32

@JaniieJones

'Ahhh Ukraine is now the new diversionary tactic so we don't look at rule breaking on a massive scale'

Not so much a 'new diversionary tactic' just surely worthy of some of the rabid reporting they are poring into their shaky definitions of 'parties'.

30 people in a room with a birthday cake and a buffet and all singing a song is far more the definition of a party than it is work. Why do some posters on here find a dead horse and continue to flog it?? The only thing that is shaky is certain posters inability to see the obvious. The emperor has no clothes yet some people still see him adorned in the finest clothes sewn together with threads of gold. Someone tell these people he is naked!!!!
CryingAtTheDiscotheque · 25/01/2022 09:34

So I'm a 'fanboy' because I do not believe eating birthday cake for 10mins is attending a party

(1) It is irrelevant whether it was a "party". Regs prohibited indoor gatherings of more than 2 people unless reasonably necessary for work purposes (2) Even 10DS isn't trying to argue that the birthday party was a "work event".

The gathering was plainly illegal.

jgw1 · 25/01/2022 09:34

@JaniieJones

'Have I pre-empted the latest line from our friendly fanboys?'

So I'm a 'fanboy' because I do not believe eating birthday cake for 10mins is attending a party. Riiight. I'm going to have a party at Costas later on. 3 people, cake 20mins it's a party yes?

The telly reporters need to get their heads out of their silly arses and start focusing very serious problems like what is developing in Ukraine.

If eating cake for 10 minutes isn't an issue @JaniieJones why has Boris been so reluctant to tell us that is what he did?

Indeed if eating cake for 10 minutes isn't an issue why did Boris' government ban everyone else from eating cake for 10 minutes with their friends?

Flowertailbird · 25/01/2022 09:36

I have been scrolling through the rules at the time and unlike some on here I can't find the 10 minute or 25 minute excemption??? How very strange that is!

CryingAtTheDiscotheque · 25/01/2022 09:38

Grin strange indeed, @Flowertailbird !

SueSaid · 25/01/2022 09:42

'Personally Janiie I am managing to keep abreast of both situations. Everything I look at is covering both'

Not with the same rabid hysteria. I'm sat with the telly on waiting for a delivery and GMB, Lorraine and now Jezza Vine leading on the eating a piece of birthday cake equals attending a party 'story'. It is pathetic.

Fair enough they aren't the 'news' but these daytime TV programmes like to pretend they are current affairs discussion programmes which many folk lap up word for word.

jgw1 · 25/01/2022 09:43

@Flowertailbird

I have been scrolling through the rules at the time and unlike some on here I can't find the 10 minute or 25 minute excemption??? How very strange that is!
No, no it is a well known exemption to any law. If I break into your house for less than 10 minutes I haven't been there and no offence has been committed. If I take drugs, but spend less than 10 minutes taking them I haven't taken them and no offence has been committed. If I defraud the tax payer, but spend less than 10 minutes doing so then the Chancellor will write off 4.3billion pounds.

I'm not clear if the same applies to murder, but I am sure someone will be along to advise shortly.

longwayoff · 25/01/2022 09:45

You get your 'news' from c5? There may be a problem there.