If we have to vote this year or the next, women who will not vote Labour due to the GRA raise your hand

[TerraNovaTwo]

As above

Still won't vote for them though....btw

Liz Truss doesn't give a shit about anyone or anything except her own ambition. That's why she was a Remainer who switched sides. Thick as mince as well.

What's GRA?

Gender Recognition Act

@ilovesooty

Liz Truss doesn't give a shit about anyone or anything except her own ambition. That's why she was a Remainer who switched sides. Thick as mince as well.

Of course.

She's a politician.

Same can be said of many Labour MP's.

I'm just 😂 at the concept that fucking over 51% of the population is for the greater good - which is the premise posters who think I should vote Labour regardless of their ability to attribute a cervix to an adult human female think.

There is a move to revise it;

committees.parliament.uk/committee/328/women-and-equalities-committee/news/160020/gender-recognition-process-urgently-in-need-of-reform-say-mps/

Oh and Truss is not thick as mince....

I don't share her politics in general, but you don't get to Oxford University from a state education by virtue of being unintelligent.

That sort of comment just makes you look as "mincey" as the person you are denigrating.

[quote Thoosa]There is a move to revise it;

committees.parliament.uk/committee/328/women-and-equalities-committee/news/160020/gender-recognition-process-urgently-in-need-of-reform-say-mps/[/quote]

It's not likely to go anywhere atm insofar it's not getting traction from the relevant ministers (like Truss).

The committee was also pretty stacked by gender woo MP's from memory.

Woo is the word.

Ex Labour Party member here too, can’t bring myself to vote for them and can’t vote for anyone else.

No.

I am not keen on all the Tory austerity type policies, but they do actually recognize that disabled people, for example, are a real group who they have an obligation to help. And they are somewhat able to be pressured by voters.

Labour on the other hand only think in terms of identity politics which is toxic and antidemocratic, and their bad things they do thinking they are good, which is actually more dangerous than doing bad things because you are being selfish.

@Thoosa

Woo is the word.

Does that make them the woo men 😂

@frazzledali

Fucking hell, you're all obsessed to the point of insanity. Can you not hear yourselves?

Ah, I forgot that women aren’t allowed to have their own political opinions that differ from other people’s.

Why don’t you go off and lecture some of the men who voted for the Tories because they “wanted Brexit done” or something?

@EmergencyHydrangea

I don't know what makes any of you think that the tories give one single shit about women

Individual Tories do, as do individual Labour members. Parties don't care about anyone, because they are not people. But they may have policies that will affect people in one way or another. Right now the LP looks like they would institute one with terrible legal consequences.

Individual Tories do, as do individual Labour members. Parties don't care about anyone, because they are not people. But they may have policies that will affect people in one way or another. Right now the LP looks like they would institute one with terrible legal consequences.

Yes.

The expectation that I'm expected to vote for a party that will set women's legal rights back over a century because they are "better" morally in general is farcical.

This whole concept of left wing "righteousness" leaves me incredibly cold and alienated from my whole political lifetime ethos.

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil agree. The timing of this thread is so suspicious. I guess when brexit kicks in, huge hikes in living costs etc minds will be crystalised somewhat but when you are comfortably m/c you can fret over this rather than more pressing issues.

I can't vote for a party that lives and breathes identity politics. It's also bloody hard to vote for the alternative which is the Tories at the moment.

Rock - hard place - and women fucked over either way really.

Me.

Yes, me. Always Labour, previous member.

@Vanishun

I can't vote for a party that lives and breathes identity politics. It's also bloody hard to vote for the alternative which is the Tories at the moment.

Rock - hard place - and women fucked over either way really.

Yes, well said. I am in a safe Labour seat so my vote (which would be a spoilt ballot like last time) will make zero difference. Left and right wing parties all contain misogyny. Just expressed in different ways.

My vote makes no difference in a ‘first past the post’ system: live in a ‘safe Tory seat’.

Unhappy with Labour’s policies on women. But Lib Dems, Greens ones are just as bad and I have even stronger views about other conservative policies and action, eg Brexit, PPE corruption, sleaze.

Me

Labour Party member here. Couldn’t vote for the bunch of charlatans in the Tory party. But also not sure I can vote for the bunch of women-erasing misogynists in the Labour Party. Spoilt my ballot last time. Probably will again. My quite decent Labour MP (who responds to all my letters except those on women’s rights) will get in without me.

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