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To be really enjoying Boris Johnson's downfall?

998 replies

GrendelsGrandma · 19/01/2022 07:27

I know he'll be replaced by someone equally awful and I know he's not quite gone yet, but I can't remember when I felt uplifted about politics and the ejection of this national embarrassment is warming my cockles. Anyone else feel the same?

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merrymouse · 19/01/2022 10:04

Workcolleagues at work having takeaways and drinking was allowed..

Nobody is saying this wasn’t a party, even Johnson.

I’m not sure what the point of your posts is, but you aren’t making a coherent argument.

MarshaBradyo · 19/01/2022 10:04

@ClaudineClare

I think the Tories are already moving to the right with Patel's current bill, Marsha?
There are attempts by some and if Johnson goes there could be more along same lines

Plan b only got through due to Labour support as so many Cons MPs voted against, nearly 100

If it wasn’t so embarrassing to be in this turmoil and political instability it’d be an interesting period to look at

There’s a lot going on and we’re not even sure who the majority would back next, and I wonder if the party can agree who should get it

ClaudineClare · 19/01/2022 10:06

Labour also did it but shh don't mentionthat, it is inconvenient and whataboutery you see

Oh god not Keir's beer again. Even the Daily Mail hasn't been able to make that one stick. Give it up JJ, you are flogging the flyblown corpse of a horse with that one.

Lolamento · 19/01/2022 10:15

@user1471538283

I'm glad he is going to be ruined. He and his corrupt lot partied whilst people died alone. That's not even human. It is contempt.

I thought at one point the pandemic might have saved him. He did a shit job but you know there was a pandemic. Thank god this will cripple him. I'd take anyone now.

Ruined LOL once he goes is when the money will start coming in. Tell OP do you despise Tony Blair as much or he is ok?
GrendelsGrandma · 19/01/2022 10:16

@JaniieJones
Instructed hospitals discharge people into care homes under the advice of the experts. Clinicians discharged those fit enough as hospitals were deemed to be high risk areas. Care homes should have used strict infection prevention and control measures.

No in a pandemic you need central powers to have enough oversight to create a system, not to rely on individual doctors. Not to just shrug and say oh well, care homes, you deal with it.

In a national emergency I could not care less that ppe contracts were handed out without due diligence, corners had to be cut and good that they were. Ppe didn't ever run out.

Due diligence isn't just a hoop to jump through, it helps to make sure contracts are handed out to competent people. Not the landlord who is Matt Hancock's mate. There were people volunteering to supply goods at the required standard, instead they forked out a lot of money to people who didn't know what they were doing. That's not cutting corners, it's incompetence and corruption. You don't have to spend months comparing bids, they were handing out contracts to companies with zero track record when other companies with a proven history were also stepping up. Then there's test and trace...

There should have been a reserve of PPE in case of pandemics, but the Tories had let it all go out of date so it was useless.

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GrendelsGrandma · 19/01/2022 10:18

@Lolamento Johnson will certainly leave office and find something lucrative to do. But he's not going to be able to bask in the limelight of a golden record, is he?

Blair - I have mixed feelings about him but I don't see what that has to do with the pandemic?

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Hospedia · 19/01/2022 10:20

Workcolleagues at work having takeaways and drinking was allowed. Labour also did it but shh don't mention that, it is inconvenient and whataboutery you see.

A takeaway and a drink during a break in work-related proceedings is not a party. Meeting for the sole purpose of socialising with food and drinks is a party.

Flipping hell, are people really so obtuse that they don't know how to tell the difference or is it pure idolatry of Johnson and his blathering ineptitude that inspires these mental gymnastics?

WorstXmasEver · 19/01/2022 10:21

I think it's pretty shocking how you can solve the Brexit issue, lead the nation through a pandemic, fund the vaccines & get the country to be the most vaccinated in the world & then it ends like this.

The people "partying" were all working together anyway so I don't see how it matters. It's like when people go on about Matt Hancocks affair...he was working with her anyway so it wasn't really a breach of social distancing etc.

Starmer was filmed doing the same & Labour haven't got a clue about anything so I'd rather they didn't get in.

SueSaid · 19/01/2022 10:23

OK, perhaps you could explain why we are being "played" and what the end game is?'

Erm, to get Johnson out Confused. Cummings is like a bitter ex and the leftie media are of course desperate for any excuse to get shot of him, have an election and get back into the EU.

We need stability not the constant Jezza Kyle style telly reporters gossiping.

the80sweregreat · 19/01/2022 10:24

@Bitbloweyoutthere

I have resigned myself to the fact there will be a tory government in charge for probably the rest of my life, bar a few anomalies. I live in a deprived area where those same people screwed by the tories still vote for them and blame Labour for all their ills. I really can't see what it will take for people to stop voting the buggers in.

I don't think this will be enough for Boris to go though. And if we have to have a tory government, I at least want one with a more credible leader.

I agree with you People will still go and vote for the tories
Marmelace · 19/01/2022 10:25

It would be nice if the whole shower of shits of every party stopped point scoring, back stabbing and playing games for the sake of being in power. I wouldn't trust them to run a piss up in a brewery, nevermind do what is right for us. Sick to death of them all!

ClaudineClare · 19/01/2022 10:27

@JaniieJones

OK, perhaps you could explain why we are being "played" and what the end game is?'

Erm, to get Johnson out Confused. Cummings is like a bitter ex and the leftie media are of course desperate for any excuse to get shot of him, have an election and get back into the EU.

We need stability not the constant Jezza Kyle style telly reporters gossiping.

Oh right. I see. I thought you had some sort of amazing insight into the machinations that I was too stupid to spot. Seems not!
Lolamento · 19/01/2022 10:27

I wonder if remainers like me have moved on. I have and do not care about Brexit anymore after seeing toddler Macron being vindictive. As well as the true colours of the EU as an organisation with the vaccines.

We have recovered faster than Germany.

ClaudineClare · 19/01/2022 10:28

@WorstXmasEver

I think it's pretty shocking how you can solve the Brexit issue, lead the nation through a pandemic, fund the vaccines & get the country to be the most vaccinated in the world & then it ends like this.

The people "partying" were all working together anyway so I don't see how it matters. It's like when people go on about Matt Hancocks affair...he was working with her anyway so it wasn't really a breach of social distancing etc.

Starmer was filmed doing the same & Labour haven't got a clue about anything so I'd rather they didn't get in.

Is this a parody post?
SueSaid · 19/01/2022 10:28

'No in a pandemic you need central powers to have enough oversight to create a system'

Ah so the bad stuff like piss poor infection control measures in care homes was Government's fault but vaccine rollout was nothing to do with Johnson and all nhs led (which had absolutely nothing to do with the Department of Health) Grin

merrymouse · 19/01/2022 10:33

Ah so the bad stuff like piss poor infection control measures in care homes was Government's fault but vaccine rollout was nothing to do with Johnson and all nhs led (which had absolutely nothing to do with the Department of Health)

Yes, because it’s very obvious that Johnson did not have a clue what was going on. He isn’t even trying to hide that. He is just making a last ditch attempt to suggest that this was OK. You don’t have to believe random people on the internet, but you might want to turn on your tv and listen to the man himself.

merrymouse · 19/01/2022 10:35

Is this a parody post?

Must be.

SueSaid · 19/01/2022 10:35

'We have recovered faster than Germany.'

God, someone please tell our media to shout about that for a change..

ScribblingPixie · 19/01/2022 10:36

@ShirleyPhallus

I really don’t see how anyone can feel positive about this tbh. I hope the people that voted him in feel some embarrassment / contrition and make better choices next time.
The choice was between Boris Johnson, a total arse hat, and Jeremy Corbyn, whose own party ended up suspending him , so the only people who need to feel embarrassment/contrition are those who elected them as leaders. Neither were fit to lead the country. It was an appalling choice to give the electorate.
wanttomarryamillionaire · 19/01/2022 10:39

@Lolamento

I wonder if remainers like me have moved on. I have and do not care about Brexit anymore after seeing toddler Macron being vindictive. As well as the true colours of the EU as an organisation with the vaccines.

We have recovered faster than Germany.

Amen to this
Toanewstart22 · 19/01/2022 10:39

We have experienced an unprecedented and appalling situation over last few years

And yet I would hazard a guess that most of the posters on this thread still have their jobs; their children are at school; they have been triple jabbed; and their considering booking their summer holiday abroad

All presided over by a conservative gov with Boris at the helm

Nidan2Sandan · 19/01/2022 10:39

No, I'm really not enjoying watching over government implode during these times of economic chaos, brexit nonsense and the tail end of a pandemic.

If you're enjoying this, you're an idiot.

We need stability, a leadership challenge would not give us this right now. We need GE called, for sure, but not yet.

SueSaid · 19/01/2022 10:40

@Toanewstart22

We have experienced an unprecedented and appalling situation over last few years

And yet I would hazard a guess that most of the posters on this thread still have their jobs; their children are at school; they have been triple jabbed; and their considering booking their summer holiday abroad

All presided over by a conservative gov with Boris at the helm

This.
MyOtherProfile · 19/01/2022 10:41

All presided over by a conservative gov with Boris at the helm
Yes, despite the disaster that is Johnson we are still here. Except for those who aren't. And those who lost their jobs, businesses, family members, mental health...

Shambolicatthleast · 19/01/2022 10:41

@JaniieJones so the media is left wing ? Telegraph, Mail, Express, Sun, Star, Times....really ?
And funnily enough the tory leave crowd were quite happy to exploit Cummings tactical 'genius' to persuade millions that Brexit was a good thing. Remember Cambridge Analytica and how it manipulated non/never voters to suddenly think that brexit would solve all their ills ? All initated by Cummings.
They are just miffed off that he's turned it against them.
I'd love to know when Labour are deemed electable. Years ago people voted on the basis of competence and track record. The fact that the country even needs levelling up after 12 years of tory government says it all but somehow that means nothing.

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