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To be really enjoying Boris Johnson's downfall?

998 replies

GrendelsGrandma · 19/01/2022 07:27

I know he'll be replaced by someone equally awful and I know he's not quite gone yet, but I can't remember when I felt uplifted about politics and the ejection of this national embarrassment is warming my cockles. Anyone else feel the same?

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jgw1 · 19/01/2022 12:35

@ClaudineClare

I think it all hangs now on Sue Gray's report. If he rides that out, the next test will be the May local elections.

I wonder whether Cummings still has one or two final cards to play, though...

Only if there isn't a party that Sue Gray hasn't been told about, since the Prime Minister has undertaken to tell her about ALL parties.
jgw1 · 19/01/2022 12:39

'Smirking his head off' at the pathetic, ranting Blackford.

May I ask is David Davies pathetic and ranting?
@JaniieJones

Blossomtoes · 19/01/2022 12:41

@sst1234

I wouldn’t count your chickens yet. He could still survive this. If he gives more to the backbenchers. Who seem to be a more effective opposition than the opposition itself.
You mean like the back bencher who’s just defected to Labour?
Florianus · 19/01/2022 12:42

@BurnDownTheDiscoHangTheDJ

Just heard on the radio that he reportedly broke down in tears in cabinet yesterday. Not many people I would laugh at for showing such emotion but BJ is one of them. Karma is a bitch.
God, this is like Chinese Whispers. The reports were that Johnson was "close to tears", not that he "broke down in tears".
ClaudineClare · 19/01/2022 12:43

Mic drop there for David Davis.

Goldenbear · 19/01/2022 12:43

jgw1, are you suggesting that 'sleaze' doesn't exist elsewhere in other parties? Admittedly Tories do a great job at it but what else do Labour have in their armour.

Is this a joke they have tried to do something about the rising cost of energy bills in the last 'week' what exactly have they been doing over the last 10 years to oppose the austerity measures the Tories have put in place, indeed is Starmer the 'low tax' Labour leader!

jgw1 · 19/01/2022 12:46

@Goldenbear

jgw1, are you suggesting that 'sleaze' doesn't exist elsewhere in other parties? Admittedly Tories do a great job at it but what else do Labour have in their armour.

Is this a joke they have tried to do something about the rising cost of energy bills in the last 'week' what exactly have they been doing over the last 10 years to oppose the austerity measures the Tories have put in place, indeed is Starmer the 'low tax' Labour leader!

@Goldenbear

The Tory party in the last week have voted against axing VAT on fuel for this year.
Which party is it that doesn't have any policies?

FriendshipsAreHardForMe · 19/01/2022 12:47

I get he should be accountable. Having a party in lockdown is despicable. YANBU to want to see him gone.

But he should never have been there anyway. But he was and after him will be another twat, followed by another.

They are ALL incompetent, disingenuous, untrustworthy egotists. I don't really care if he goes because we all know whoever replaces him will be as bad for the same or different reasons.

Politics just makes me roll my eyes now.

Cornettoninja · 19/01/2022 12:49

@JaniieJones

'In what way do you think that Blackford is pathetic? I am not a fan of the SNP, but it seems to me that he is always measured and willing to ask important questions.'

He is supposed to ask a question, instead he gives a longwinded speech usually ending with 'resign Prime Minister RESIGN!!!'. He's predictable if nothing else.

As predictable as BJ foghorning ‘vaccines, fastest roll out in Europe’ every time he’s asked a difficult question?

It’s a running joke that his answer to everything is ‘vaccines!’.

You’d think he’d jabbed everyone personally.

MarshaBradyo · 19/01/2022 12:50

The trouble is Starmer only has one thing to go on about

He was pro restrictions and got it wrong

jgw1 · 19/01/2022 12:51

@FriendshipsAreHardForMe

I get he should be accountable. Having a party in lockdown is despicable. YANBU to want to see him gone.

But he should never have been there anyway. But he was and after him will be another twat, followed by another.

They are ALL incompetent, disingenuous, untrustworthy egotists. I don't really care if he goes because we all know whoever replaces him will be as bad for the same or different reasons.

Politics just makes me roll my eyes now.

They are not all like that.

Yes the purge in the Tory party got rid of all the moderate reasonable, experienced voices like Kenneth Clarke and so all the members of the government are like that. It is possible that there are even some Tory MPs who are hard working and care about their constituents. Not mine, but some exist.

It is completely wrong to say that all politicians are like Boris.

ClaudineClare · 19/01/2022 12:51

You’d think he’d jabbed everyone personally

Some on this thread do seem to almost believe that.

MarshaBradyo · 19/01/2022 12:51

Labour cannot claim superiority re party infighting in any way

jgw1 · 19/01/2022 12:52

@MarshaBradyo

The trouble is Starmer only has one thing to go on about

He was pro restrictions and got it wrong

You didn't hear Sir Keir ask a questions about energy bills then?

Remind me which party put forward a motion in parliament in the last week to deal with the fuel price crisis?

MarshaBradyo · 19/01/2022 12:53

You didn't hear Sir Keir ask a questions about energy bills then?

One topic plus one

He’s hammered home the same point with all the other questions

SueSaid · 19/01/2022 12:55

'It’s a running joke that his answer to everything is ‘vaccines!’.'

Well, in a pandemic I do agree that the fastest rollout of vaccines thus protecting the nation is far more important and relevant than work colleagues getting takeaways and drinking which the media call 'parties' when it's the Tories but 'work' when it's Labour.

jgw1 · 19/01/2022 12:57

@JaniieJones

'It’s a running joke that his answer to everything is ‘vaccines!’.'

Well, in a pandemic I do agree that the fastest rollout of vaccines thus protecting the nation is far more important and relevant than work colleagues getting takeaways and drinking which the media call 'parties' when it's the Tories but 'work' when it's Labour.

@JaniieJones If we have had the fastest vaccine roll out can you demonstrate with some data all the dates at which the proportion of the UK population vaccinated is higher than other comparable countries. It is certainly not true now, but I suppose there must be a date it was true.
Goldenbear · 19/01/2022 13:10

jgw1, for years no opposition to the austerity measures from the Labour Party, why have they not been the voice for people that can't stand up to the political elite. Miliband even said that he would not hugely depart from the Tory austerity measures!

Sartre · 19/01/2022 13:10

Yup, absolutely loving every minute.

jgw1 · 19/01/2022 13:14

@Goldenbear

jgw1, for years no opposition to the austerity measures from the Labour Party, why have they not been the voice for people that can't stand up to the political elite. Miliband even said that he would not hugely depart from the Tory austerity measures!
@Goldenbear

You seem to be making an argument that the Labour Party didn't oppose something 10 years ago and that makes then bad now, even though their leader wasn't even an MP during the time you mention.

Why are you avoiding answering who voted against doing something about the cost of energy?

Which party has a policy on energy prices? And which one does not?

As whataboutery goes, and goodness we are used to it from fans of Boris this is a bit feeble.

Cornettoninja · 19/01/2022 13:16

@JaniieJones

'It’s a running joke that his answer to everything is ‘vaccines!’.'

Well, in a pandemic I do agree that the fastest rollout of vaccines thus protecting the nation is far more important and relevant than work colleagues getting takeaways and drinking which the media call 'parties' when it's the Tories but 'work' when it's Labour.

Yes, I concede that the procurement of vaccines and speed of rollout was great, however, this was almost a year ago he’s draining the last drop out of that tanker and diminishing his own achievement by using them so cheaply. You’d hope he’d have added another significant win to his cv by now.

We’re not leading the way anywhere regarding vaccines anymore. It’s like people who go on about England winning the World Cup - move on. The situation and the rest of the world has.

WindyState · 19/01/2022 13:18

@JaniieJones

'It’s a running joke that his answer to everything is ‘vaccines!’.'

Well, in a pandemic I do agree that the fastest rollout of vaccines thus protecting the nation is far more important and relevant than work colleagues getting takeaways and drinking which the media call 'parties' when it's the Tories but 'work' when it's Labour.

The uk didn't have the fastest roll out of vaccines in Europe, that's just an(other) out and out lie.

And having a trustworthy, competent PM is pretty important no matter how desperately brainwashed tories try to claim otherwise.

jgw1 · 19/01/2022 13:23

The uk didn't have the fastest roll out of vaccines in Europe, that's just an(other) out and out lie.

Unless anyone would like to correct me the only thing that the UK did fastest (presumably in part as a political stunt) was to jab the first person first.

I know that at my age and state of health I would have had my vaccine sooner in a range of other countries.

Greenbather · 19/01/2022 13:25

Watching him smirking and laughing in PMQs, whilst treating the public like total fools is making me more angry than amused.

However I will certainly enjoy it when he does finally go (may take a little while longer but wheels are now in motion).

Dumblebum · 19/01/2022 13:29

Boris will go in his own time and not a moment before. I really think it’s too early for people to gloat. This is just standard politics playing out

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