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To think DP is taking the piss now?

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DrunkanSkunkan · 15/01/2022 03:31

Been with my DP for 6 years, live together. I have a 8 year old ds.

Dp has always had a reputation for doing stupid things when he’s had a drink. The first time I met his friends years ago they all took great delight in telling me all stories of stupid things he’s done and what entertainment he is when he’s had a drink. Some of these are from when he’s about 15/16 so basically from when he first tried alcohol.

Dp is 35, has a very responsible job, is kind, loving, dependable, funny… basically a lovely man, everyone likes him, day to day he’s a good guy. He doesn’t drink the house at all and goes out out maybe every 6/7 weeks. So not every night or weekend or anything like that. But when he’s had a drink he’s a TOTALLY different person. He takes it too far. He’s not aggressive or anything like that, he just acts like a total idiot and does ridiculous things. He can not be reasoned with, he will do things like run into the road, play music at full volume, put his wallet/phone in the bin, run away… just weird annoying things that are really annoying. He will disappear and be found asleep in the toilets or something. I find it SO irritating. He falls over a lot when drunk as well and has broken his wrist previously. But as I say he only goes out now and again, he’s a grown adult and my ds isn’t at home when this happens as he is at his own df’s for the night/weekend.

Tonight he has gone out. We are going to a wedding tomorrow and have to leave at 10.30. He was invited out with a group of men he hasn’t seen since prelockdown, I have no issue with him going out if he wants to be hungover for the wedding so be it, not my problem. Wave him off, order takeaway/watch a film and in bed asleep by 10. Bliss. 2am I’m awoken by a phone call from him telling me he’s walking home and he’s round the corner. It’s -3 outside and he only has a think coat on so I tell
Him to hurry home. 2.20 he’s still not here so I ring him again and he states he has no idea where he is, he’s lost on an estate?? I can hear him KNOCKING on doors, at 2.20!!!!!! I tell him to stop knocking on doors and to tell me where he is, he doesn’t know but eventually manages to send me a pin. He’s 3 miles away on the middle of a new build estate. So i go to pick him up.

He gets in the car and he’s got music playing out of his phone full blast. We drive home and I ask him to turn it off, after much back and forth he switches it off. We go through the gate and he starts opening and closing it really fast so it’s banging, I tell him to stop it and get inside because of the neighbours. Once inside in the light I can see a big cut on his forehead, not sure what’s happened there. Manège to get him up to bed and he’s talking really loud, almost shouting about his night. We live in a terraced house so he’s probably already woken the neighbours so I tell him to be quiet. He then decides he needs a drink, goes to go down stairs and FALLS down the stairs. I check he’s ok (he got up straight away), he’s fine. He’s now in bed and snoring next to me. We’ve got to be up at 7.30 for the wedding.

I love him. This kind of thing happens I’d say 50% of the times he goes out. In December he went to his works do, he’s worked there for 6 years but for different reasons this is the first Christmas do he’s been on. They had to ring me to fetch him because he was so drunk. I picked him up and on the way home he tried to open the car door on the dual carriageway 😢. The next day he was mortified. Behaviour like this happens id say 50% of the times he/we go out. His friends think it’s hilarious. His brother and dad have alcohol issues and I think he has too, not dependency or anything like that but I think he feels he HAS to drink like this on nights out either because he has low confidence or he feels he has something to live up to. If you met him on a normal day you would be shocked as to what he was like drunk as he’s so serious and dependable.

Anyway this is so long and very incoherent. I’m going to speak to him in the morning about how I can’t keep doing this. My anxiety goes through the roof. I have no issues in picking him up, he picks me up when I go out and I’d always rather fetch him then have him walking home in -3 degrees but once again he’s gone out and once again he’s not known his limits. I don’t want to come across as controlling but I need to lay down a line. It’s 3.30 am and I’m lying here wide awake feeling embarrassed about what the neighbours must think

OP posts:
Gwenhwyfar · 15/01/2022 12:12

"Maybe you could actually try drinking at home sometimes? Just the two of you having a few glasses of wine, or beer to get him used to the idea that alcohol can be consumed in moderation… "

But he's a grown man so he obviously knows that alcohol can be consumed in moderation, just that HE can't.

Nothingsfine · 15/01/2022 12:14

@Gwenhwyfar

"Maybe you could actually try drinking at home sometimes? Just the two of you having a few glasses of wine, or beer to get him used to the idea that alcohol can be consumed in moderation… "

But he's a grown man so he obviously knows that alcohol can be consumed in moderation, just that HE can't.

Right?

Do some people realise you actually don't HAVE to drink ..

StrangerThanSpring · 15/01/2022 12:14

@zoemum2006

I think it's interesting he wanted you as an audience to his stupidity. Why did he call you in the middle of the night?

I'd be tempted to switch off my phone when he goes out. He sleeps on the couch/ spare room those nights.

Drink until you vomit but DON'T INVOLVE ME!

I think ultimately this may be the way to go. You can't fix him. You can't make him want to change. This has to come from him.

You need to detach from this behavior as hard as it is.

Hoolihan · 15/01/2022 12:30

I am like this, have had many many dangerous/stupid/embarrassing incidents over the years. Last year I stopped drinking for 100 days and did a lot of reading and soul searching and haven't had a blackout/fuck up since. I'm not complacent though as I know I have it in me. I just lose my mind around alcohol.

Apologies as I haven't read the while three so these may have been mentioned but two books I found really helpful were Blackout by Sarah Hepola and The Unexpected Joy of Being Sober by Catherine Gray. These specifically address issues with binge drinking.

WetLookKnitwear · 15/01/2022 12:31

He’s got a drinking problem, sorry. It sounds like he kind of knows it because he makes sure he doesn’t let rip more than once every few weeks, that’s how he keeps his friends/family and job. He knows there won’t be consequences if he does it this infrequently.

If I knew him I would give him a chance to stop but if he broke that I wouldn’t want to be with him. You think your child has no exposure to this, I wouldn’t be so sure. Some people just shouldn’t drink, that’s how it is.

Ragruggers · 15/01/2022 12:45

I hope you are able to enjoy the wedding.His behaviour when drunk is beyond awful,do not put up with this any longer,you say he is a wonderful partner.No sorry he is not one day your son will witness this and the harm will be done.You need to get very angry and tell him in no uncertain terms this is never happening again.He must seek help with his alcohol problem,stop drinking and accept how much you are suffering by his drinking.I believe you are too understanding so he repeats it over and over again.Film him when he is like this and shock hm into taking some responsibility.Stay strong but you need to find some anger now.

BowerOfBramble · 15/01/2022 12:46

@Nothingsfine

He's got the opportunity to prove what a 'great guy' he is by knocking the drink on the head. That way he can be a great guy all the time and leave the bellendry at the door. If he can't/won't then it's time to consider your position.
I just want to say I love the word "bellendry" and hope it becomes part of the language.
DarkDarkNight · 15/01/2022 12:48

I assumed you didn’t have children but you mention a son, so was he staying elsewhere? Who would go and rescue him if you were in the house with your child and couldn’t go and get him? I would find this such a turn off in a grown man.

The behaviour is pathetic. He can’t handle his drink and needs to cut down before this behaviour starts. He may not be an alcoholic but this is still problem drinking - he doesn’t seem to be able to enjoy a pint or two, it’s all or nothing.

He needs to realise these ‘friends’ are laughing at him not with him. No doubt encouraging him to drink and laughing at his exploits behind his back. My brother is like this, does stupid things he can’t remember when sober. I always think if his friends actually cared about him they would encourage him to stop, switch to soft drinks, not just laugh when he starts falling asleep/falling over etc.

Hoolihan · 15/01/2022 12:48

Now I've read everyone's comments I want to say that there's a level of cynicism here which may be unwarranted - I behaved like your H for years and years and after each incident I was really truly mortified, sickened, disgusted with myself. And then a few weeks later I would do the same thing again and so it went on. I felt helpless, like it was just happening to me and I didn't know why or how to stop it. So whilst I don't know your H there's a good chance that he is sad, rather than bad. Alcohol is fucking poison and as a society we are drowning in it. Please encourage him (with kindness, if you have it in you) to do some reading/research/thinking and seek help.

thepeopleversuswork · 15/01/2022 12:52

@Notimeforaname

Wake up, OP! He’s an alcoholic

Do alcoholics only drink a few times a year when out with friends ? I thought alcoholics spend a lot of time thinking about drinking and drinking a lot. This man doesn't. Hes just shit at handling his alcohol

Being an alcoholic isn't only determined by the amount you drink: in part its also about the way you drink. Anyone who can't control their drinking in certain situations, even if this happens infrequently, and whose behaviour upsets or concerns their loved ones, has a problem with alcohol. He's an alcoholic OP. No question.
Pendolino · 15/01/2022 12:54

He sounds like a danger to himself. He’s got a drink problem. Does he recognize this and want help?

BlowDryRat · 15/01/2022 12:57

If he was knocking on people's door at 2am then he's lucky you weren't collecting him from a cell. What a pillock. If he doesn't know his limits or won't stick to them then he shouldn't drink.

Fredstheteds · 15/01/2022 13:05

He’s 35... when’s he growing up?

ToastCrumbsOnAPlate · 15/01/2022 13:17

You probably don't want to hear this op , but if he can't stay sober I think you should leave him.

My dad was a 'great guy' until he was pissed. He then became a total twat that put himself and others in danger. He got worse , I remember when his drinking escalated and I'd see him with a can of strong cider before I went to school in the mornings. I was 12.

Your son will see this situation escalate. Is this what you want for him?

Sober or walk away. Those are the two options here.

Oh and by the way , I was so damaged that I married an alcoholic. Threw away my 20s on that man because of what I saw as normal behaviour.

2022success · 15/01/2022 13:40

Honestly he shouldn't be drinking at all.

What's the big deal? He knows he is abominable when he drinks so he shouldn't do it.

It's cool to be sober now, tell him.

I couldn't live like you are. If you aren't prepared to split up over it, then PP has a good idea re telling him he has to stay at hotel and your phone will be off, but I suspect he will still turn up at your house shouting, maybe with police in tow.

PrivateHall · 15/01/2022 13:51

I cannot believe you got him up for this wedding. He is tipsy, laughing about his stupid behaviour and has a gash on his head. He bloody well shouldn't be allowed to ruin someones wedding.

He sounds like an absolute nightmare and there is no way I would stay with someone like this. He is making the choice to drink to excess which is then having a huge detrimental impact on so many people - disturbing neighbours and all those people he decided to wake up with knocks on their door in the middle of the night. I am furious at this and I don't even know him! You say he doesn't drink often but he shouldn't be drinking at all, ever, as he cannot handle drink at all. If he hasn't realised this by now, he clearly never will.

Hrpuffnstuff1 · 15/01/2022 13:53

I had a mate like this. Great guy, built his business up.
But soon as he had a drink, he transformed into either a loudmouth pillock or abusive and violent, you never knew which jack in the box would come out. When we were younger men it was quite funny seeing him walk up a group of models and start his charm. But his violent side was dark, a dark place.
I took him to a prestigious event as a stand-in. Asked him not to overindulge. He promised not to but he did. I was mortified by his behavior.

I ended the friendship a couple of days after-I'm too old for managing people who cannot handle a drink. It's boorish.
I'd never marry a drinker, too much hassle.

GatoradeMeBitch · 15/01/2022 13:56

Is it like a Drunk Bobby thing? His friends love his antics, he feels that being a mad drunk is maybe the best thing about him, so he has to live up to it because maybe he feels he'll have nothing else if he stops and he'll lose the interest of his friends?

I side-eye people who only value their friends for things like this. It's like they are characters in a soap opera, not real people - with real livers.

EmmasMum12 · 15/01/2022 13:57

He chooses to drink to excess knowing what will happen and knowing how badly it will affect people

You choose to tolerate him doing this and you allow him to get away with it

Therefore it will continue for always

thepeopleversuswork · 15/01/2022 13:57

@ToastCrumbsOnAPlate

You probably don't want to hear this op , but if he can't stay sober I think you should leave him.

My dad was a 'great guy' until he was pissed. He then became a total twat that put himself and others in danger. He got worse , I remember when his drinking escalated and I'd see him with a can of strong cider before I went to school in the mornings. I was 12.

Your son will see this situation escalate. Is this what you want for him?

Sober or walk away. Those are the two options here.

Oh and by the way , I was so damaged that I married an alcoholic. Threw away my 20s on that man because of what I saw as normal behaviour.

Yep. And whatever you do don't have kids with him. Would be awful having a family with this mean. LTB.
JSL52 · 15/01/2022 13:59

@EmmasMum12

He chooses to drink to excess knowing what will happen and knowing how badly it will affect people

You choose to tolerate him doing this and you allow him to get away with it

Therefore it will continue for always

Absolutely,'only you can change this. He'll be 50 and still acting like a twat.
CheshireKitten123 · 15/01/2022 14:04

"This kind of thing happens I’d say 50% of the times he goes out"

You need to talk to AA, ASAP.

Pinksmyfavoritecolour · 15/01/2022 14:19

If when he drinks first drink he’s powerless over drinking more and struggles to stop he has a drink problem, alcohol addiction is a disease, it’s the body having an allergic reaction, it then craves more. The “doctors opinion” in the AA big book explains it perfectly. I had this behaviour from my husband for 20+ years, he did it more regularly than your husband. His behaviours were like a totally different person to my sober husband. The no recollection the next day drove me crazy, but it’s called Blackout. It may seem mad to you to see your husband is an alcoholic, as he has long periods not drinking, but 8 years of my husband being in AA,and me going to Alanon, your situation is common. There is help out there for both of you.

SallyWD · 15/01/2022 14:21

OP I used to be like your DH. I could go weeks without drinking but if I went out with friends I wasn't able to drink sensibly. It's like there was this tipping point I was completely unaware of. One minute I'd be merry and happy, the next minute I'd be completely off my face doing the most ridiculous and bizarre things. I'm a shy, quiet person in normal life but alcohol seemed to unleash the crazy beast in me. I haven't been drunk for 12 years but I'm still haunted and humiliated by memories of things I did when drunk. It disgusts me - so undignified. For me, having children stopped it. I just didn't want to be that person anymore. I wanted to be healthy for my children. Getting that drunk is dangerous. I'm amazed I didn't get killed by walking in front of a car or falling in to a river. I implemented a 3 drink limit and I've stuck to it. Three drinks gets me merry and happy but still in control. I hope your DH reaches a point where he doesn't want to do it anymore. This is so unfair on you.

KatyRebecca84 · 15/01/2022 14:23

That’s not ok.
He clearly can’t handle his drink and needs to stop putting himself at risk and you through the stress.