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My BIL is killing me!

149 replies

UpInTheClouds15 · 13/01/2022 16:33

So last year in August my partner and I decided to let his younger brother live with us for minimal rent until he sorted his financial situation out, but from the start we set out clear boundaries and told him that since we have a young child and want another one that he would have to move when he could afford it or when our family was expanding.
Fast forward, I am now pregnant with my second and we have told him he needs to find somewhere else, he has made no effort to find anywhere, whenever we show him somewhere he screws up his nose and says no. He keeps helping himself to our food, he helped himself to a whole bottle of alcohol that you cant buy in the UK and is very expensive and was a gift from my brother before he moved away. And now he is using bottles (and I mean whole bottles) of my expensive hair care products. He does no cleaning, he barely keeps his room clean, he sleeps in all day awake all night making noise, keeps waking my son up...and keeps getting himself further into debt. He literally is a different breed. We've told him several times about different things but he doesnt listen, he laughs at me and walks away. And my partner feels bad for asking him to leave!? What should I do?? Am I being unreasonable??

OP posts:
Brainwave89 · 13/01/2022 17:30

Hi OP, your discussion goes: "I am really sorry but we need the space and our own privacy. You need to make arrangements to live elsewhere within the next month. I am sorry this is not negotiable. It is not personal, we just need our space.

Be firm and stick to it.

HyacynthBucket · 13/01/2022 17:31

billy1966 and StellaDarkley ar right OP. If your husband had anything about him at all, he would understand your problem with the brother, and support you. Instead he lets the brother disrespect you and inconvenience you and your DC. So neither of these men is looking out for you and your needs, or respects you. You need to be assertive for yourself. Tell your husband that the brother needs to go, and why, and expect him to deal with it. If he does not, then do it yourself - give brother 2 days notice, then put his stuff outside the door. Change locks if necessary. But above all, you have an unsupportive, possibly weak, husband, that is the real problem. Show him this post. Good luck with this.

Kennykenkencat · 13/01/2022 17:31

I would tell your Dh that if his brother doesn’t go then you will leave and will. divorce him. That would mean the house will either be sold or you will be moving back in with the children. Either circumstances your Dh and his brother are going to find themselves homeless.

It is time for your Dh to pick a side.

Also listen to the wording your Dh uses. If he blames you for having to evict his brother then I wouldn’t trust your Dh to not be subsidising him long term and I would have to be reconsidering my marriage unless your Dh has some huge mindset changes

UserBot2022 · 13/01/2022 17:31

Is he addicted to the internet? bring the modem thing upstairs and give him two weeks' ''notice''

ChargingBuck · 13/01/2022 17:31

@WonderfulYou

YANBU but this doesn’t have to be a big blow up. Just get DH to explain that you’re pregnant so now has 6 months to find somewhere else to live as you don’t have enough room for him anymore.
Six months?

Apart from the fact that OP shouldn't have to endure another 6 months of piss-taking in her own home, how do you think this suggestion would pan out?

DH would feel too "bad" to do it, & if forced to do it, the best that will happen is that an imaginary deadline will be faked, which BiL will also ignore.

littlefireseverywhere · 13/01/2022 17:32

I think you DH has to give him an ultimatum, there's really no other alternative.

frazzledasarock · 13/01/2022 17:34

I had an utterly rude wasteful horrible adult male relative ex moved into my house. He was similar to your BIL.

One day I lost my temper as I’d cooked food and he’d eaten it all and I returned from work to small bite of leftovers in the pot I’d made a massive curry that morning.

I locked the him out.

Told him if he threatened me or attempted to break in I would call the police. I left a bin bag of his clothes outside the door.

Right now you have nothing to lose. Kick him out. Your P is waste of space he can’t support you.

Georgeskitchen · 13/01/2022 17:39

Sleeps all day and up all night? Doesn't he have a job?

334bu · 13/01/2022 17:40

Change the locks.

Sprucewillis · 13/01/2022 17:43

I would tell DP they need to find a 2 bed flat together and give them a months notice.

SIL moved in with us for 8 months and did the exact same. She didn't even pretend to buy food. Never contributed to a bill or paid rent. It was an absolute joke. In the end I said I wasn't working to house her so they could both go. It worked she was gone in 4 days.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 13/01/2022 17:45

You have a partner problem. Why has he not sorted this out?

CoffeeBeansGalore · 13/01/2022 17:45

He laughed at you in your own home? Wow. This cannot go on any longer.

Unplug & hide the router in your bedroom. Tell your partner BiL needs to leave at the weekend. Let his parents deal with their baby boy if he has nowhere else to go. If your "d"p won't tell him, you will have to. Once BiL is out you then need a serious talk with your partner.

Skeumorph · 13/01/2022 17:46

The problem is your partner.

Leave. Tell him you'll be back and he'll have a family again when he can put them first.

Oh and baby your surname.

NumberTheory · 13/01/2022 17:49

I think billy1966's post is harshly worded, but focuses on the core of the issue. You have let this happen and continue to do so. Why are you even coming on here to ask if you are being reasonable?

You're looking for other people to take responsibility for you enforcing boundaries. Why is that? Why have you not already told your DH that you are disappointed he is letting his brother treat you and your son like this and you insist on him leaving?

What stops you respecting yourself enough to insist on considerate treatment? What stops you loving your son enough to make sure his environment isn't marred by a pisstaker like this?

Sprucewillis · 13/01/2022 17:50

@NumberTheory

I think billy1966's post is harshly worded, but focuses on the core of the issue. You have let this happen and continue to do so. Why are you even coming on here to ask if you are being reasonable?

You're looking for other people to take responsibility for you enforcing boundaries. Why is that? Why have you not already told your DH that you are disappointed he is letting his brother treat you and your son like this and you insist on him leaving?

What stops you respecting yourself enough to insist on considerate treatment? What stops you loving your son enough to make sure his environment isn't marred by a pisstaker like this?

You do know people come on here for advice right?
ChargingBuck · 13/01/2022 17:53

You do know people come on here for advice right?

Of course @NumberTheory knows that @Sprucewillis.
That's why she's advising OP to consider her own motivations, & think about what's preventing her from speaking up & taking action in her own home.

FairFuming · 13/01/2022 17:54

Balls to saying its him or you, he's gone in a week or they are both out on their arses.

Auntieobem · 13/01/2022 17:56

I voted yabu, because you are being very unreasonable not to have chucked him out before now.

Iamnotamermaid · 13/01/2022 17:58

Appears to be a generation problem - Effmyeffinglife - another OP has similar issues (well lots) with her 21 year old son. Sleeping all day, awake all night with not much consideration for others or emotional intelligence.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/parents_of_adult_children/4451208-21-year-old-son-won-t-work-can-t-work

Lodgers with free accommodation rarely leave it. It is not a situation which is going to get better either, your BIL is taking the piss and needs to be shown the door. Otherwise you will be stuck with this man child for a long time. Your partner needs to grow a set and handle this.

WonderfulYou · 13/01/2022 18:00

Apart from the fact that OP shouldn't have to endure another 6 months of piss-taking in her own home, how do you think this suggestion would pan out?

It needs to be realistic.

It’s almost impossible to find a rental place that’s available now.

Landlords don’t want properties being empty so when they know it’s going to become empty they advertise it in advance.
So even if he found somewhere today it could be a couple of months before he’s allowed to move in.

Giving a decent deadline means he can find somewhere suitable so they don’t feel guilty or end up having him back.

Sprucewillis · 13/01/2022 18:00

@ChargingBuck

Why are you even coming on here to ask if you are being reasonable?

You're looking for other people to take responsibility for you enforcing boundaries. Why is that? Why have you not already told your DH that you are disappointed he is letting his brother treat you and your son like this and you insist on him leaving?

What stops you respecting yourself enough to insist on considerate treatment? What stops you loving your son enough to make sure his environment isn't marred by a pisstaker like this?

Honestly this reads more like a tirade of abuse to me but what evs Wink

girlmom21 · 13/01/2022 18:05

If he ever laughs in your face again tell him he doesn't get any more warnings - he can leave immediately.

heyitsthistle · 13/01/2022 18:07

When your BIL is out, move all his stuff into the bed, cover it in a tarpaulin and start painting the room a very childlike colour. Put some baby items in there (soft toys) etc and tell him this room is the baby's now.

Honestly, what a tosspot. Your DP needs to step up as well!

AuntMargo · 13/01/2022 18:08

I am sorry to sound harsh, but your post has really irritated me, why do need to come here and write this, come on get a grip and get rid of him! Stop being such a doormat !!

AuntMargo · 13/01/2022 18:11

@billy1966

You sound like an absolute MUG.

Who puts up with shit like this?

A complete MUG does.

As for your waster partner, who doesn't give a damn about you🙄, what are you doing have another child with him?

Neither of these wasters have an ounce of respect for you, because you have none for yourself, for putting up with this bullshit.

People treat you as badly as you will allow.

This is your fault but putting up with it.

His brother is far more important to him, than you or his child with you.

You need to wake up.

Apologies if it's too harsh, but you need to woman up.

Flowers

Absolutely this 100 %
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