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AIBU to think that Boris should resign now?

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Seemslikeagoodidea · 11/01/2022 17:45

Today it has been revealed that in May 2020 invitations were emailed to (allegedly) 100 Downing Street staff, for a garden party. This party happened during the first lockdown, when many people could not visit their elderly relatives, even on their death beds, due to the lockdown rules. The email was sent by one of the PM's top people, and stated that people should "bring their own booze and enjoy the sunshine". Today Boris has been conspicuous by his absence.

I think this is the final straw and shows a lack of judgement and absence of moral fibre. Enough is enough - he should resign and if he doesn't do it then his own party should force him to go.

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OhWhyNot · 12/01/2022 15:19

So we have his apology he has his cover story

He isn’t going anywhere. The party will now have to decide if they want another leader just yet I’m not sure if they do. If there was a better opposition that may have swayed them

BasketBlocks · 12/01/2022 15:19

I’m confused why a Tory supporter would want to go into the next election with Boris at the helm. Not exactly an asset is he?

BashStreetKid · 12/01/2022 15:19

I thought I heard him say that he didn't know he was attending a party. Did he receive an email?

You think someone under his authority invited a load of people to a party in his garden without express or implied permission to do so?

And that he saw a load of people gathered in his garden standing around drinking booze that they'd brought with them, enjoying the warm weather and relaxing (that was the stated purpose of the whole shindig, after all), seriously thought it was a work event, and joined that event with at least one person who didn't work there?

I take it you're admitting that you think he's utterly stupid, @Clavinova? It has to be that or an outright lie, after all.

BashStreetKid · 12/01/2022 15:21

@OhWhyNot

Wasn’t it a training event? Were they meant to go without having lunch they were not having a boozy lunch at the local pub.

Social distancing does not happen in many work settings as it’s not possible so they nay have been lax around social distancing when in their lunch break. By June it certainly wasn’t happening in supermarkets

As for not wearing masks maybe some were exempt

It happened at 6 pm. Is there yet another unlawful lunchtime party yet to come out of the woodwork?
Roussette · 12/01/2022 15:21

You think someone under his authority invited a load of people to a party in his garden without express or implied permission to do so?

Thank you Bash

I have said this before. Of course he knew, wasn't it in honour of him escaping hospital after covid?

OhWhyNot · 12/01/2022 15:23

BashStreetKid my response was to the nurses training i should have made that clear

GucciBear · 12/01/2022 15:24

Yes. No moral compass at all.

Curiousmouse · 12/01/2022 15:24

If he didn't know it was a party it is worse. It would mean that he was a bit dim, and also that those in number 10, including staff, get pissed at working events.

Zombiemum1946 · 12/01/2022 15:24

Well the news had now moved onto the apparent unlawful awarding of contracts. Better or worse story for bojo.

Clavinova · 12/01/2022 15:24

I've always wondered what type of person keeps voting tory, and now I know.

Should I have voted for Labour/Jeremy Corbyn instead?

Jeremy Corbyn won't be fined for breaking coronavirus rules,

Sir Keir Starmer, Corbyn's successor as leader of the Labour party, admonished his old mate for breaking the rules but didn't call for him to be fined.

www.joe.co.uk/news/jeremy-corbyn-wont-be-fined-for-breaking-coronavirus-rules-251673

Katyppp · 12/01/2022 15:26

Yes he should go and I am a Tory.
Up to now, the parties/meetings have been - just about - debatable and I have given him the benefit of the doubt.
In May, any other group of people doing this would have been castigated, shunned and maybe even been visited by the police
No-one else could do it, so on that basis he should go.
And they need to stop digging themselves deeper by trying to justify it. Just admit Tey were wrong.
But please - not Gove!
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Itsalmostanaccessory · 12/01/2022 15:27

@JaniieJones

But they weren't all colleagues. They dont all work in the same offices. They didnt have legitimate work reasons to be gathered together. There were people in attendance who are not employed at all by the government and only have a social connection.

Boris clearly made a law which you dont agree with. They made a law that colleagues could not gather after work for drinks. It was not allowed.

You obviously think it was a stupid law but Boris made it. And he mandated the police to ensure the population followed the law. The rest of the country were not allowed to gather with all their staff for drink after work. Because Boris said so. Then, he went ahead and did it himself. Multiple times. As did other government buildings.

So, they made a law saying that no social gathering were allowed. They made it clear that that included gathering with colleagues after work had been done to drink, even on work premises.

They ensured that law was applied to the public and people were punished for breaking it.

They held their own gatherings of people who did not actually work together, they held gatherings after all work had been done. They were not working at these events.

What do you think of leadership who will do that?

Poetrypatty · 12/01/2022 15:27

Work events weren't even allowed at the time so the excuse is bollocks anyway.

VikingOnTheFridge · 12/01/2022 15:28

@Curiousmouse

If he didn't know it was a party it is worse. It would mean that he was a bit dim, and also that those in number 10, including staff, get pissed at working events.
Yes, this reminds me of the explanation for the 15th May party in that it doesn't really make things any better!
Poetrypatty · 12/01/2022 15:28

Also, if the man doesn't know if he's at a party or not then he's not fit to be PM anyway, with all the responsibility that entails.

SueSaid · 12/01/2022 15:31

@Poetrypatty

Also, if the man doesn't know if he's at a party or not then he's not fit to be PM anyway, with all the responsibility that entails.
Maybe he didn't class work colleagues in an outdoor work area, at work, as a 'party'?! I know I wouldn't.

Anywayyyy at the risk of sounding like Johnson we'll have to see what Sue Grey finds.

Florianus · 12/01/2022 15:31

@Bunnyfuller

He absolutely thought it was a work meeting apparently. I want a job there, where you stand around drinking with no lap tops, pens, paper or work conversations.
He didn't say he thought it was a "work meeting". he said he thought it was a "work event" (to thank the civil servants).
TheMarzipanDildo · 12/01/2022 15:32

[quote Clavinova]I've always wondered what type of person keeps voting tory, and now I know.

Should I have voted for Labour/Jeremy Corbyn instead?

Jeremy Corbyn won't be fined for breaking coronavirus rules,

Sir Keir Starmer, Corbyn's successor as leader of the Labour party, admonished his old mate for breaking the rules but didn't call for him to be fined.

www.joe.co.uk/news/jeremy-corbyn-wont-be-fined-for-breaking-coronavirus-rules-251673[/quote]
Jeremy didn’t make the rules, though. I think that’s an important distinction.

anungratefulwretch · 12/01/2022 15:35

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Roussette · 12/01/2022 15:37

Forget the word 'party' then.

Let's call it a gathering. But that's as bad as 'party' because 'gatherings' were expressly deemed as illegal at the time. No gatherings were allowed.

And let's not try and say it was work... Bring Your Own Booze does not sound like work to me.
And Carrie was there.
I would love to see who the 100 email recipients were. And who did show some moral fibre in emails saying...
'is this a joke'
etc

WindyState · 12/01/2022 15:38

[quote Clavinova]I've always wondered what type of person keeps voting tory, and now I know.

Should I have voted for Labour/Jeremy Corbyn instead?

Jeremy Corbyn won't be fined for breaking coronavirus rules,

Sir Keir Starmer, Corbyn's successor as leader of the Labour party, admonished his old mate for breaking the rules but didn't call for him to be fined.

www.joe.co.uk/news/jeremy-corbyn-wont-be-fined-for-breaking-coronavirus-rules-251673[/quote]
You realise that just because somebody else might have done a naughty thing that doesn't excuse anyone else from it?

"Yes, I done a murder but so did Bob down the road so I shouldn't get punished"

SueSaid · 12/01/2022 15:38

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Itsalmostanaccessory · 12/01/2022 15:40

@JaniieJones

But it was Boris who made it very clear that gathering with colleagues was illegal if it wasnt working.

They were not working. There were people there from different offices. There were people there who were not employed by the government.

All those things were illegal at the time. Boris made them illegal.

It doesnt actually matter if you agree with that law or think it was a stupid law. It doeant matter if you think that gatherings after worl with colleagues from different offices should have been allowed.

Boris Johnson made them illegal. Then he did it. And his colleagues did it. Repeatedly.

What do you think of a leader who says "Do as I say, not as I do."

BellaChagall · 12/01/2022 15:40

If it was a work event what was Carrie Johnson doing there?

Poetrypatty · 12/01/2022 15:40

Maybe he didn't class work colleagues in an outdoor work area, at work, as a 'party'?! I know I wouldn't

He passed a law banning mass gatherings. He was at one. Therefore even on his own case he's incompetent and unfit to lead.

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