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AIBU to think that Boris should resign now?

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Seemslikeagoodidea · 11/01/2022 17:45

Today it has been revealed that in May 2020 invitations were emailed to (allegedly) 100 Downing Street staff, for a garden party. This party happened during the first lockdown, when many people could not visit their elderly relatives, even on their death beds, due to the lockdown rules. The email was sent by one of the PM's top people, and stated that people should "bring their own booze and enjoy the sunshine". Today Boris has been conspicuous by his absence.

I think this is the final straw and shows a lack of judgement and absence of moral fibre. Enough is enough - he should resign and if he doesn't do it then his own party should force him to go.

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Notonthestairs · 12/01/2022 14:59

🙄 the government should follow its own laws.

Cornettoninja · 12/01/2022 15:03

Yes it intrigues me how he ever such a powerful position, surely he had form for being a duplicitous weasel why was he given so much clout?

Because he’s effective and if he’s on your side you can achieve things eg. Brexit. He had no moral qualms about using technological manipulation or barefaced lies. Did you see his interview regarding the claim brexit would free up millions per week for the NHS? He laughed that his lie (which he acknowledged was a lie) was successful.

Fwiw I supported his Barnard castle trip due to exceptional circumstances before any of my avid fans remind me of this

That’s irrelevant tbh, but you have to wonder about either the persons morals or ability to judge character if they’ve knowingly kept someone like DC on side.

ElenaCouch · 12/01/2022 15:03

[quote Clavinova]he has ADMITTED it was a party. A PARTY. against the law at the time

Was this party on the 10th May 2020 against the law? Labour MP, Labour Mayor and at least one police officer present. Has Keir Starmer spoken to the MP?

www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/18484861.mp-kevan-jones-defends-decision-attend-100th-birthday-party-lockdown/[/quote]
You do know how the law works right? It's still a crime, even if Bob down the road might of done it already.

Jesus, if people don't understand the very basics no wonder they worship a bunch of cunts.

Peregrina · 12/01/2022 15:03

It was certainly possible to go for working lunches where some alcohol was consumed

I am quoted out of context here. This was back in the early 1990s, years before Covid came on the scene. Not much longer afterwards, my organisation banned having alcohol at lunches.

BashStreetKid · 12/01/2022 15:04

I feel quite nostalgic for the days when the likes of Profumo and Parkinson somehow felt able to resign without having to have a taxpayer-funded inquiry first to tell them what they had done wrong.

BasketBlocks · 12/01/2022 15:05

If your best defence to doing something wrong is that someone else did the same thing then you’re pretty much screwed. It doesn’t matter if Tom, Dick, Harry, Rita, Sue and Bob too did it - doesn’t make it OK.

Itsalmostanaccessory · 12/01/2022 15:05

@JaniieJones

His schedule and the labour events were made public. Even the conservatives let it go because he was actually working.

Boris has admitted that this gathering was not work related. They were not working. This was a gathering of people who had reason to be there, they didnt all work in the same office, some people were not even employed by the government. They have admitted this was just a social party.

As were all the others which we have seen the photos of. Drinks, food platters, everyone gathered together for fun photos.

What is it you are so scared to admit? Why are you so determined to act like the conservatives have done nothing wrong?

BashStreetKid · 12/01/2022 15:06

@justasking111

Remember when we clapped at 8pm. Went out onto the decking in a garden below us there was a party. Was stunned to see a woman in a pretty short red dress and high heels climbing onto the roof of a shed with a Tumblr of liquid and dance vigorously to the music from the sound system in the garden. It was a BBQ party I filmed the roof dance for posterity.

Like I said not everyone followed the rules set by the government of this country

Explain the relevance of that to the person who set the rules not following those rules?
BashStreetKid · 12/01/2022 15:08

[quote Clavinova]he has ADMITTED it was a party. A PARTY. against the law at the time

Was this party on the 10th May 2020 against the law? Labour MP, Labour Mayor and at least one police officer present. Has Keir Starmer spoken to the MP?

www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/18484861.mp-kevan-jones-defends-decision-attend-100th-birthday-party-lockdown/[/quote]
When will you learn that no-one is fooled or diverted by "Look over there" non-arguments? Yet alone, you just display your desperation and Johnson's weakness by trotting that one out time and again

Do you accept that Johnson attended a party that was against the law?

ladygindiva · 12/01/2022 15:09

@onlyconnect

What I feel most disgusted by is how he handled the previous wind and cheese allegations, knowing that this had taken place too.
Wind and cheese... that amused me, thankyou !
Clavinova · 12/01/2022 15:10

Personally, I am more concerned about this 'social'/work event (June 2020);

Nurses not wearing face masks or staying two metres apart led to an outbreak of Covid-19 that shut an A&E unit after 70 staff at a hospital had to go into quarantine, an inquiry has found.

An investigation by Hillingdon hospital in north-west London has found that a nurse who had coronavirus unwittingly infected 16 others during a training session they all attended on 30 June, in what was described by a doctor as a “super-spreading event”.

The hospital, which serves Boris Johnson’s constituency, made headlines last week when it stopped accepting emergency admissions because the outbreak had led to 70 staff being off work and in isolation.

The Guardian has learned that the training session has now been identified as the source of the unusually high number of staff who later fell ill or had to stay off work because they were in close contact with those infected.

Hospital sources say that not everyone who attended wore a mask or stayed two metres apart, and that social distancing broke down to a significant extent during the lunch break.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/15/covid-19-nurses-not-wearing-masks-led-to-ae-closure-inquiry-finds

ClaudineClare · 12/01/2022 15:10

The sound of barrel scraping on this thread is deafening.

LookItsMeAgain · 12/01/2022 15:10

In my opinion - Boris Johnson is to the Tory Party what Donald Trump is to the Republican Party in the US.....
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TOXIC

The sooner he goes and a replacement is appointed/elected the better as they can focus on running the country instead of hosting boozy garden parties and lying to the British public.

Clavinova · 12/01/2022 15:11

Do you accept that Johnson attended a party that was against the law?
I thought I heard him say that he didn't know he was attending a party. Did he receive an email?

SueSaid · 12/01/2022 15:13

'Do you accept that Johnson attended a party that was against the law?'

I don't accept it but if Sue grey decides colleagues in a communal workplace area is a party and 'against the law' then I'll stand corrected.

I do hope the media move on to actually reporting the news.

BashStreetKid · 12/01/2022 15:13

Personally, I am more concerned about this 'social'/work event (June 2020)

But, yet again, are you concerned about the social event that this thread is actually about, @Clavinova? Is there any danger of you actually answering that question instead of frantically trawling the internet for evidence of other people who weren't the PM responsible for setting the rules in question breaking them?

BashStreetKid · 12/01/2022 15:14

@JaniieJones

'Do you accept that Johnson attended a party that was against the law?'

I don't accept it but if Sue grey decides colleagues in a communal workplace area is a party and 'against the law' then I'll stand corrected.

I do hope the media move on to actually reporting the news.

And yet Johnson does accept it. So is he a liar?
Roussette · 12/01/2022 15:14

Why are people on here defending the indefensible?

It's either some sort of weird research project or they are so far up the arse of the Tory party they can't see anything else

The latter. Oh, yes, the latter.

Johnson could do absolutely anything and they would defend him. It's hilarious to see the mental gymnastics they are putting themselves through.
They will need to lie down with a damp flannel across their foreheads soon.

boomster · 12/01/2022 15:15

I do hope the media move on to actually reporting the news

Yes, I think we'd all like to hear more about today's legal verdict that the Conservative party's awarding of multi-million pound public contracts to friends was UNLAWFUL.

BashStreetKid · 12/01/2022 15:15

@Clavinova

Do you accept that Johnson attended a party that was against the law? I thought I heard him say that he didn't know he was attending a party. Did he receive an email?
But he accepts that he attended a party that was against the law, and has apologised for it and admits he was in the wrong. So is he lying now?
SueSaid · 12/01/2022 15:15

'The sooner he goes and a replacement is appointed/elected the better as they can focus on running the country instead of hosting boozy garden parties and lying to the British public.'

Just be grateful he was running the the country and we didnt have any further restrictions over Christmas. Like freedom day in July he made the right call. Go on admit it, I dare you.

WindyState · 12/01/2022 15:16

@JaniieJones

'Do you accept that Johnson attended a party that was against the law?'

I don't accept it but if Sue grey decides colleagues in a communal workplace area is a party and 'against the law' then I'll stand corrected.

I do hope the media move on to actually reporting the news.

You don't accept that Boris attended a party that he has apologised for attending?

I've always wondered what type of person keeps voting tory, and now I know.

OhWhyNot · 12/01/2022 15:17

Wasn’t it a training event? Were they meant to go without having lunch they were not having a boozy lunch at the local pub.

Social distancing does not happen in many work settings as it’s not possible so they nay have been lax around social distancing when in their lunch break. By June it certainly wasn’t happening in supermarkets

As for not wearing masks maybe some were exempt

Poetrypatty · 12/01/2022 15:17

He's had it now he's got no authority and can't continue. The tories know he's a liability and will dump him.

Peregrina · 12/01/2022 15:18

I think this is astonishing. I knew when I was at work, and knew when I was attending a party or social gathering. In the first I would have pen and paper to hand, and a computer on my desk - or possibly at a seminar with powerpoints and flip charts.

In the other, I would be holding a plate of nibbles and a drink, (although non alcoholic in my case since I don't drink.)