Molly Mae

[ivykaty44]

“that if you want something enough, you can achieve it”

“You’re given one life and it’s down to you what you do with it
. You can literally go in any direction. When I’ve spoken about that in the past I have been slammed a little bit, with people saying ‘it’s easy for you to say that because you’ve not grown up in poverty, so for you to sit there and say we all have the same 24 hours in a day is not correct.’ But, technically, what I’m saying is correct. We do.

“I understand we all have different backgrounds and we’re all raised in different ways and we do have different financial situations, but I think if you want something enough you can achieve it. It just depends on what lengths you want to go to get where you want to be in the future. And I’ll go to any length. I’ve worked my absolute arse off to get where I am now.”

Not someone id come across before, a reality star, who has said the above

is she being reasonable or not?

Molly Mae doesn't seem to have considered that both she and Beyonce have teams of people around them dedicating chunks of their own "24 hours" into making them a success.

However I think that this is someone young and a bit silly who hasn't experienced many knocks in life yet and hopefully with a bit more maturity she'll talk more sense.

She's talking bollocks. Some people have worked for years studying at university then working hard ridiculous hours at all levels in the fashion industry to work to a postion that she was handed on a plate because she was on love island. She has no business acumen or life experience. She's purely a show monkey for a multi million pound company.
Her parents are also well off so she was able to afford the fillers botox lifestyle etc that led her to being picked for tv. She has no clue what working your arse off actually means

She's a 22 year old reality TV star. I wouldn't be looking to her for life advice.

Also thinking of my friend's little boy, for whom sitting upright unsupported for a minute is a huge achievement at age 5, and a wee boy in DS reception class, born with FAS, neglected for a couple of years and adopted just as social services were about to give up, and the wee girl of a former colleague who needed help to breathe 24/7. Don't think they could all achieve anything they put their minds to. Also their parents might have to compromise a little to prioritise their children's needs. But she probably doesn't mean people like that.

I completely disagree like lots of others have said. I'm a silversmith and it took me reading an article from a successful jeweller to realise just what advantages a safe loving upbringing brings you, that's before you even talk about the advantages of wealth. She talked about how she always knew she could succeed, how she was raised to be incredibly confident in her abilities and knew that she always had support behind her should she need it.

It sounds weird but it took me reading that to realise just what disadvantages I had had growing up in an emotionally abusive home. I was raised to feel like I was shit. I didn't know what I wanted to do after leaving home because I couldn't imagine a future for myself, I was too busy just making it through every day. When I left home at 17 I never felt like I could take risks because there was no one there to catch me, if I couldn't make my rent I was homeless, I was living in a houseshare with people that robbed cars for fun and did drugs and got drunk everynight, I had no emotional support, no one to look out for me, I was completely alone. That shit is tough, it grinds you down, you are in survival mode all of the time, you don't have the space and the time to dream never mind to put a plan into action.

I don't know if I am expressing myself properly because I feel like it is hard to explain to someone that hasn't grown up devoid of love and care just what that does to you, how that affects every single thing about you, you feel worthy of nothing so why would you even try to put yourself out there and achieve your dreams when you know how truly awful you are and you don't deserve them in the first place?

PeaceONoeuf. very different from Marcus Rashford who is a similar age

I worked as a psychotherapist mainly with teenagers and young adults and that sort of philosophy often leads to unrealistic expectations with inevitable failure. And then added shame that they have didn't try hard enough.

Its bollocks to say we can achieve what we want if we try hard enough. No amount of trying and practicing will make me a talented singer or dancer. No amount of stretching will make me taller. I have to accept personal limitations.

Equally, it doesn't matter how clever you are if you are living in poverty your family will not be able to afford the £25 UCAS fee so you aren't going to university. If you are a young person caring for a disabled parent and younger siblings you aren't going to have the same opportunities as someone from privilege.

Of course we should all work hard and try our best. But a lot of what happens in life is just luck. If the Love Island production team had been looking to cast a brunette no one would have heard of Mollie Mae. She was the look they needed on the day. That's luck not graft. Fair play to her she has made the most of it.

Her dad paid to support her after she quit her job to become an influencer.

why can't you do both at the same time?

I do know of an influencer who paid her own school fees at 6th form and purchased an Audi sports car, so doing two things at once isn't out of the question, with a bit of hard work

I’m not interested in anything she says as AFAIK she still associates with her would be FIL , and frankly anyone who associates with him after his performance prior to the Jake Paul / Tommy fury fight that never happened needs to give themselves a good shake .

@eveningbubble

It would be something if she was someone from a very underprivileged background who was currently leading the way as a rising, brilliant cardiothoracic surgeon. Not a love island contestant who is measuring success in terms of money and media exposure.

She even vocalised the fact that when she reached 1 million pounds in her back account, her goal changed to wanting 2 million.

It's one thing to think it, another to voice it! She's very thick

What has she done apart from get her bits out go on love Island and pose on Instagram? It's not something I'd want my daughter to do. Compare her with Dr Alex George or Camilla Thurlow who went on the show but have had actual careers and achievements.

It’s that kind of crap that has made me unfollow people on Facebook.

Fucking hell, imagine being 22 and having achieved precisely nothing of importance to the world, and still being asked for your opinions. Thanks god I wasn't famous at 22, the shite I'd have come out with would have been risible.

Give her 20 years and she'll maybe gain a bit of maturity and empathy for others.

@Jessie75

I do I actually think she has worked hard in that if you look at Katie Price in the same vain as well she could’ve just got her tits out and made a few thousand that kind of thing and left it at that would’ve been absolutely minted still. But she’s chosen to go beyond her lane And that’s where I think the hard work comes into it she is utilising her fame and making hay while the sunshine’s and MM is doing that as well. A comment I found really interesting from Jake Paul though is he had a little sly dig at Tommy Fury to say that he needed to get back in the ring unless he was gonna continue to live off Molly mae for the rest of his life now that could just be him being nasty but I did wonder whether there was an element of truth in that ?

Tommy will get paid for his Instagram posts. He is always tagging brands so clearly getting paid x

@Mamamia344

It's a naive and deluded comment. 'working hard' has brought her 'success' mainly down to the country she was born in and the colour of her skin.

People keep saying this but I highly doubt she's comparing herself to an orphan in India or someone else completely destitute.

She's talking about her lived experience and people she knows over here

Vacuous muppet.

You’re given one life and it’s down to you what you do with it

A simple statement of the obvious.

You can literally go in any direction

Well, you can 'literally' choose to go north, south, east, west but I somehow don't think she means that. Again, she's not really saying anything of note here.

When I’ve spoken about that in the past I have been slammed a little bit, with people saying ‘it’s easy for you to say that because you’ve not grown up in poverty, so for you to sit there and say we all have the same 24 hours in a day is not correct.’ But, technically, what I’m saying is correct. We do.

Really - there are 'technically' 24 hours in a day for everyone? Thanks for that information.

“I understand we all have different backgrounds and we’re all raised in different ways and we do have different financial situations, but I think if you want something enough you can achieve it

Sorry, this simply isn't true. Your aspirations have to be realistic based on your capabilities and characteristics.

It just depends on what lengths you want to go to get where you want to be in the future. And I’ll go to any length. I’ve worked my absolute arse off to get where I am now.”

I don't know who this person is so I can't comment on whether she has worked hard. There's no harm in pushing a 'work hard' message but we also need to be aware that hard work isn't always fairly rewarded - because we live in an unfair, unequal world. We also need to accept that some people are born into fame, wealth etc. and learn not to compare ourselves to others.

My summary of this message is that it's poorly written and mainly composed of meaningless cliches and platitudes.

[quote PeaceONoeuf]How very different to the Arnold Schwarzenegger not a self made man speech
www.marketplace.org/2017/05/12/schwarzenegger-self-made-man-myth/amp/[/quote]
I'd never read/heard that before. I love it.

Thanks for sharing.

@ivykaty44 do you think Molly Mae deserves the pile on she’s getting?

@Dontforgetyourbrolly

"She's a silly little girl"
Do you call Tory MPs and their supporters who spout the same, silly little boys?

It's disappointing considering she's married to Tommy Fury, who hasn't come from money, is from a group of people who suffer from bigotry and has raised a good amount for charity. Tyson's last baby needed treatment in Alderhey and they went all out to raise money. They both earn around £11k per Instagram post, why would he rush back into the ring? But she was talking about herself, isn't a public speaker, doesn't have advisors, is 22, so has got it wrong.

Her hair curler is the only one I've achieved the waves I want, so she's swayed me.

kittens the first time I read it I assumed it was made up, like those quotes on Facebook attributed to Keane etc. But after digging around it seems to be a genuine speech and it makes me a bit tearful when I read it! It’s my favourite grounding piece about life.

@kittensinthekitchen

Absolute bullshit, and I get very angry when I hear people spouting the same shit.

I have a 'friend' who 'does' pole dancing. She regularly says on her Facebook "If I can do it, anyone can!" No, not everyone can. Disabilities exist, which can prevent people from doing what they would wish to. I feel especially angry on behalf of our mutual friend who has partial paralysis and heart failure, and know this kind of throwaway comment is extremely hurtful.

@kittensinthekitchen - I knew someone who was at 6th form a few years ago (she was 1-2 years older than me) and she decided to do lapdancing (not sure if pole dancing was around then) in a local club. Thought that as it was in the West End it didn't matter so much...

Then one day the dad of one of her mates from school found out - as he went to the same club - but for 'business meetings' and told her dad. They told her that if she wanted to continue and also train to be a nurse it was pick one or the other. She left...

it’s easy for you to say that because you’ve not grown up in poverty, so for you to sit there and say we all have the same 24 hours in a day is not correct.’ But, technically, what I’m saying is correct. We do.

Yes, we all have 24 hours. But some of us have to commute, work long hours, clean our own houses, do our own gardening, maintain our cars, shop for and cook our own food, deal with childcare, deal with admin.

Some people can afford to pay others to do all the boring and time consuming domestic stuff so that they can focus on their career or just watch TV all day.

It's absolute poor-shaming bollocks to say that everyone has the same amount of time available to them. According to twitter this is the same woman who was shocked at the knowledge that some people have to work 12 hour shifts.

Apparently she also suggested that if you're homeless you could buy a house. What a font of wisdom I have missed out on until today...

What about all the other literally MILLIONS of love Island wannabes, who aren't quite as thin, or as pretty as she is? I'm sure they all WANTED it as much as her, but there's an opportunity/demand issue here....

It really worried me how many young people genuinely have "love Island then influencer" as a career plan. Of course a few will be successful, but by definition they never see all the thousands and thousands who are working just as hard but who haven't become an internet sensation. Because they can't all!!!

Ps I'm sure MM is working harder just now than she ever expected she might in her life. That doesn't mean that she is actually working hard.