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To think Pope Francis is talking out of his arse here?

219 replies

CounsellorTroi · 06/01/2022 20:17

Says couples who prefer pets to children are selfish. It’s a bit rich from someone who effectively chose not to have children when he became a priest.

www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/05/pope-couples-choose-pets-children-selfish

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MrsApplepants · 06/01/2022 23:49

Totally out of touch with reality. The Pope can pope off

youvegottenminuteslynn · 06/01/2022 23:52

@CounsellorTroi

Lapsed catholic here. The problem with many catholic clergy is that they personally have no experience of raising children. Or of looking after elderly parents. It was work done by obliging women. So they haven’t a clue, nor a clue, of what it’s like. It astonishes them that not all ‘wives’ want to do this labour. Because their mothers did and it was good enough for them.

This. Before my (Catholic) DMIL’s funeral DH and I were chatting to her priest. He asked about my own mother and I told him she had dementia. He asked if she still knew me and when I said yes he said “oh so she’s living with you is she?” When I said she was in a care home I could see his disapproval. The fact my mum knew who I was didn’t make her any easier to care for. We did it as long as we could but she had no idea where she was most of the time and didn’t recognise her marital home of 50 years,

This makes me so angry. So very angry.

I'm really sorry you were treated that way by someone who claims to preach love and care.

And people wonder why us lapsed catholics (or ones who were technically Catholic as children through family, but never believed - like me!)

Completely correct that care of any kind is seen as exclusively women's work, fuelled by fear, obligation and guilt. It's like witnessing an abusive relationship at times, I can now see.

BorderlineHappy · 06/01/2022 23:53

I actually liked him.He seemed to be bringing people back to the church.
He seemed progressive and now the mask has slipped. Like most men it usually does

Viviennemary · 06/01/2022 23:54

Bit mad since St Francis his namesake was a great animal lover.

Feliana · 06/01/2022 23:56

Apart from snakes! 🐍

Staffy1 · 07/01/2022 00:02

He’s said a few odd things in my opinion but I’ll still take him over Archbishop Welby who never says anything sensible ever.

newusername2009 · 07/01/2022 00:09

How on earth is this funny. Bit sick to make jokes like that really

newusername2009 · 07/01/2022 00:10

Well I was supposed to be responding to the jokes about altar boys - I don’t think it is very funny to be joking about things like that

abra1d1 · 07/01/2022 00:21

He’s worried catholic populations in the west are diminishing.

PyongyangKipperbang · 07/01/2022 00:32

Given the amount of children fathered by priests over the centuries, I would imagine he knows what he is talking about.....Wink

Old Harrys Game is a wonderful listen if you would like to know what happens to popes when they die....and written by the incredible Andy Hamilton (Outnumbered, Drop the Dead Donkey) :o

Feliana · 07/01/2022 00:33

I sort of agree with you @newusername2009 but really as long as the BBC gives airtime to the head of an abusive organisation and lets him talk about children and family life I kind of think all bets are off in terms of people's response to that.

MabelsApron · 07/01/2022 00:44

@MissionZ

I agree with him.
Hmm
Thedogscollar · 07/01/2022 00:50

@MissionZ

I agree with him.
Why?
PyongyangKipperbang · 07/01/2022 01:06

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SoItWas · 07/01/2022 01:09

I'm still young enough that I could get married, settle down as a working wife, and have a lots of babies. The only problem is, I have about as much interest in finding a spouse and breeding (again, in my case), as the pope himself.

BSintolerant · 07/01/2022 01:13

@BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation

One of my cats is a Catholic. She's not going to be happy when she hears about this.
Grin

What religion are your other cats?

Bussinbussin · 07/01/2022 01:27

How much more shit does the Catholic Church have to be before people turn their backs on it?

KloppsTeeth · 07/01/2022 01:27

He’s always talking out of his arse as far as I’m concerned. I can’t be doing with all this nonsense.

OwMyToe · 07/01/2022 01:30

Fortunately I don't have to care what he thinks, but yes, it's obnoxious.

Few people have children out of selflessness. People have children because they want them or want the societal acceptance and perks that come with having children. Not having children is no more selfish than having them, imo.

Topseyt · 07/01/2022 03:02

He has come across as an out of touch and obnoxious old fart.

Snoozer11 · 07/01/2022 03:09

Well of course.

Your pets can't fill up the collection plate, but your children can.

plinkplinkfizzer · 07/01/2022 03:23

Are we going to go back to the bad old days (5 decades) or so , when the Priest comes knocking on the door because " its been a while since your last baby Mr & Mrs x " . Actually happened in my Family fortunately my Granny chased back to the Church asking if he was going to " put food in the babies mouths " . Good old Granny never took any shit .🤣

KloppsTeeth · 07/01/2022 04:03

I would’ve liked your Granny @plinkplinkfizzer Grin

Snugglepumpkin · 07/01/2022 04:16

He is the head of a religion which regards abortion, or even accompanying someone to have an abortion as a mortal sin which confers automatic excommunication.

What would you expect him to say?

jamandmarmaladethesecondcoming · 07/01/2022 04:52

That would be an ecumenical matter