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Prince Andrew

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Tevion28 · 01/01/2022 23:58

Do you think guilty or innocent

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ParkheadParadise · 02/01/2022 01:14

He will be back in public with his 2 daughters for his Mammy's jubilee celebrations.

KloppsTeeth · 02/01/2022 01:16

Guilty as a puppy sitting next to a pile of poo. The man’s a pompous oaf. I think he will meet with a “riding accident” where he injures his head and won’t be able to stand trial.

You would think MI5 and 6 would have staged an intervention after doing background checks on the company he keeps, but clearly he is too well protected for that to have happened,

Those poor girls/women.

Also predict this thread will go poof.

Chocaholic9 · 02/01/2022 01:17

Guilty.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 02/01/2022 01:17

I know two people who have worked for the royals: one said they had to secure girls for him (abroad). The other said Fergie found out early on about his penchant for young girls. I am livid that both of these people have not gone to the police.

Do you really think they'd be believed by anybody in an official capacity? I'd anticipate their reputations being thoroughly destroyed. Also, they may find that mortality for people of their demographic is far, far greater than they had previously been led to understand....

I think the question/conspiracy about the death of Diana is a valid case in point. The official inquiry determined that the RF were NOT guilty of murdering her. However, just suppose that they had provably done it.... would you be the one to declare it? Do you genuinely believe that your evidenced conclusion would just be accepted and the guilty people sent to prison? Would you expect to ever work again in law, however high up your position? And would you feel safe for the rest of your life, having made that public proclamation?

Chloemol · 02/01/2022 01:18

No idea, but he needs to retire fully either way as his actions alone if he is innocent are appalling

Viviennemary · 02/01/2022 01:20

I think he is so arrogant he would think young girls would be all over him. Much like those so called groupies of old. Round pop stars.

ParkheadParadise · 02/01/2022 01:21

Was it not one of his daughters that helped set up that interview.

OMICHristmasOn · 02/01/2022 01:22

think people are beginning to see the power of the real establishment

sweetbellyhigh · 02/01/2022 01:22

@Tevion28

Wonder what his daughters think
They'll be Team Daddy. Awful for them.
Butchyrestingface · 02/01/2022 01:23

Maybe Her Maj could turn the pages of her royal history books to look for some inspiration on how to deal with this bothersome situation.

I'm thinking of Prince Albert Victor and that nasty little rumour about him.

Floundery · 02/01/2022 01:24

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sweetbellyhigh · 02/01/2022 01:24

@Theunamedcat

Do people really believe the royal family kill people?
The Royal Family do not but the Palace does. A few of a Princess Diana's closest allies died mysteriously/were posted abroad.
Enko · 02/01/2022 01:24

I think he had sex with her but I do not think it ever entered his mind she was not willingly engaging with him. He simply wouldn't have been able to entertain the idea he was not a catch for any woman. I also believe he did not recall who she was originally as I don't think she was important to him as someone to remember.

Legally that would make him not guilty. As I dont think she can prove he knew. I dont think he did as I dont think his entitled self could comprehend she was not wanting him.

Doesn't mean I don't believe she was trafficked just i dont think this case is a black and white situation

Butchyrestingface · 02/01/2022 01:27

[quote Floundery]@ParkheadParadise yes he gave the interview on Beatrice’s advice iirc.

She’s inherited her father’s brains and good judgment then. 🙄[/quote]
I think it was Fergie's advice?

There I was, imagining Fergie sitting for years, cooking up ways to revenge herself on the royal family and the husband who'd thrown her over, nursing her wrath to keep it warm...

TrishM80 · 02/01/2022 01:34

Guilty as fuck. You don't pal around with a creep like Epstein for that long without a quid pro quo.

BoudecaBains · 02/01/2022 01:35

A civil action brought by a court in a foreign country has no jurisdiction in the UK. Also it’s perfectly clear she is looking for a pay out.

SummerWhisper · 02/01/2022 01:38

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll agree completely. I think people will be shitting themselves. There must be heaps of evidence if at least 2 people on this thread have connections to him who can bear witness to his behaviour. Where is it being logged, stored, recorded? Does the Official Secrets Act play a part in barring witnesses to crimes by a member of the Royal family?

mustbetheseasonofthebitch · 02/01/2022 01:38

Given that even I, sitting at home, not being royal or rich or famous, etc, had heard of Pedo Island years ago, I think anyone involved socially with Epstein and co knew what was up.

Furries · 02/01/2022 01:39

I think it’s pretty likely he’s guilty.

I think it’s pretty likely there are a number of people from 20+ years ago suddenly thinking “oh shit” - not just in relation to this case, more re suddenly realising that your past might catch up to you in the modern day.

And that’s bloody great, that your past can catch up with you via technology, science and also courage of victims who may now feel more comfortable coming forward compared to how things were 20+ years ago.

On the other hand, I’m not on board with yelling “guilty”. I think my worry is that this case is so high profile, how on earth (if it comes to it) do they find a jury that is impartial. There can’t be many people on the planet who haven’t seen the news/formed an opinion.

Sparklesocks · 02/01/2022 01:49

Guilty and intensely stupid

Bussinbussin · 02/01/2022 02:06

@BoudecaBains

A civil action brought by a court in a foreign country has no jurisdiction in the UK. Also it’s perfectly clear she is looking for a pay out.
Well yes, she's suing him for damages, that's the whole point of the trial Confused
WatchMyChops · 02/01/2022 02:06

I’m curious about the Household Manual and whether “masseuses” had to follow them as well.

Dasher789 · 02/01/2022 02:12

@grazingsheep me too

Lockdownbear · 02/01/2022 02:15

Definitely had sex with her. Knew her age 17.
Did he know she was trafficked, or being forced by others to do what he wanted?

What did he think was in it for her, money, fun times, something out of Pretty Women?

VG wasn't asked to stand at GM trial their was holes in her evidence or something.

I don't think it will ever come to trial as I just don't think the evidence will be there to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that he knew she was being trafficked and told to keep him happy.

SlamCrump · 02/01/2022 02:24

Yes everyone deserves a fair trial but I can't understand how anyone could imagine PA was ignorant of what was going on. Yes, he's an arrogant fool, but he knew the deal with Epstein. Everyone in that circle would have heard rumours surely? Even if he waa initially fooled by a veneer of respectability on Epstein's part, it would have become pretty apparent, pretty soon, what was going on.

It wasn't very clever of PA to throw his lot in with GM was it? Do we really believe she hadn't mentioned anything to PA about Epstein's predelictions?

Fergie was £5 million in debt and needed funds which made Andrew vulnerable to manipulation by Epstein. Epstein used PA to gain access to people & places and others with influence. And the underage girls were sadly an added "extra", probably used to both lure and entrap PA.

It was all sleazy as hell. Everyone using one another.

As the parent of an eighteen year old dd, even reading newspaper reports about this sickens me.

How could PA, as the father of young daughters, associate with Epstein and visit him in his NY house after he had pleaded guilty to a felony charge of solicitation of prostitution involving a minor? That action, something PA has admitted to, surely demonstrates that PA knew but didn't care.