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To put in a complaint about Amazon for this?

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SoniaFouler · 27/12/2021 10:48

I’m not sure this is right

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SoniaFouler · 27/12/2021 13:41

I have read the explanations and understand, but what I’m saying is if someone sees a giant 4+ under “age suitability” there is no reason for anyone to think otherwise.

If someone made a film and thought it should be a PG and in more relaxed countries it was released as a PG but the UK rating board gave it an 18, you still can’t take your 8 year old to a UK cinema to watch it just because the director says it’s fine for a PG rating.

I get what you’re saying. But it should be clearer that it’s for 13+ not 4.

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Elliania · 27/12/2021 13:43

OK OP. You're not listening to what people are saying. The App store (where you purchase or download the games) has rated Angry Birds as being suitable for 4+ in terms og=f the GAME content and GAMEPLAY. It's bright, cartoonish, easy to play & has no adult themes or imagery like violence, gore or nudity.

However. The people who MAKE the game (Roxio) state in their terms & conditions (which the parents SHOULD ALWAYS READ) the following:
"As a precondition for using the Services, you must agree to these TOS. If you accept these TOS, you represent that you are age 13 or older. If you are between the ages of 13 and 17 or otherwise do not have the authority to enter into agreements such as these TOS, you represent that your legal guardian, or a holder of parental responsibility, has reviewed and agreed to these TOS."

So the people that MADE Angry Birds expect users to either be 13+ or expect parents to agree to the T&C on behalf of any under 13s. So no, while you may feel that the advert is unsuitable for a 6 year old - your complaint will go nowhere because an adult presumeably agreed to the T&C. Otherwise it's very poor parenting to just let kids download any games they want without checking.

PinkWaferBiscuit · 27/12/2021 13:46

I get what you’re saying. But it should be clearer that it’s for 13+ not 4.

It is clear if you read the terms and conditions. It's not the game makers fault that some parents don't do this or the app stores fault that the game is suitable to be seen by small children.

The fault here lies solely with the adults in charge of letting a sensitive 6 year old have unsupervised access to unchecked content.

MabelsApron · 27/12/2021 13:46

The cinema does all the work for you, because you pay to access content. The adverts are therefore linked to the certification or there’s a warning to the contrary.

There is no such thing as a “free” app. Apps that are free will advertise to you, and the adverts may be a different certification from the app. You have to understand how apps work, rather than letting a sensitive young child access them without supervision.

It’s not enough to just look at “4+” and do nothing else - the onus is on the caregiver to ensure that whatever is being accessed - ads included - is suitable for the child. That means knowing how apps work before letting a sensitive 6 year old loose on them.

SoniaFouler · 27/12/2021 13:47

@Elliania
I am listening to what people are saying. I understand.

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GiveMeNovocain · 27/12/2021 13:47

6 year olds should be supervised online by a responsible adult.

TrashyPanda · 27/12/2021 13:49

That was as scary as Scooby Doo. A claymaction animation. It didn’t show a face getting ripped off - that sounds violent. And this wasn’t

What is actually concerning is that a clearly sensitive 6 year old was gaming alone, upstairs and away from his family.

I’d concentrate on building up his resilience, lessening solo time on electronic devices and having more direct contact with adults who can directly address his fears - eg by playing board games as a fan I’ll

Sitchervice · 27/12/2021 13:49

OK not sure if something is wrong with my app store but this is my view of it

To put in a complaint about Amazon for this?
Whinge · 27/12/2021 13:49

[quote SoniaFouler]@Elliania
I am listening to what people are saying. I understand.[/quote]
If you understand, then surely you agree you're being unreasonable in wanting to complain?

SoniaFouler · 27/12/2021 13:49

I don’t think there’s any point in this thread anymore. People are saying I don’t understand when I do and I’m not listening, when I am. In fact, the majority of people that have commented think he’s my own child even though it’s in the OP and throughout the thread that he’s not, so really they’re the ones that aren’t listening properly.

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MabelsApron · 27/12/2021 13:49

(As an addition, I wouldn’t be this harsh on you if you weren’t hellbent on making complaints. Everyone makes mistakes and technology is difficult to keep up with for some. But you’re going to encounter this problem over and over, so rather than making a series of complaints after your DN has accessed yet another scary advert, maybe take this time to learn how apps work and how to properly assess suitability.)

Sitchervice · 27/12/2021 13:50

And because someone will tell me to scroll to the left

To put in a complaint about Amazon for this?
AcrossthePond55 · 27/12/2021 13:51

The skeleton thing is 'meh', 6 year old me would have laughed at that. But those ventriloquist dummies!!!!! AAAAAGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Those things have scared the shit out of me since I was a little kid. They just give me the creeps. DS1 brought one home as a teen and I made him put it in the boot of the car overnight.

MichelleScarn · 27/12/2021 13:52

Any 80s babies out there? That ad really reminds me of 🎵stay away away from that Trapdoor!🎵

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RobertaFirmino · 27/12/2021 13:52

Flamin' hell Sonia, now I know you're upset after finding out Rocky isn't your dad and Dotty was scamming you but come on now...

Marmelace · 27/12/2021 14:00

Weren't you advocating smacking a dog on the nose in another post before op?

SoniaFouler · 27/12/2021 14:05

@Marmelace

Weren't you advocating smacking a dog on the nose in another post before op?
No?
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HoppingPavlova · 27/12/2021 14:06

Okay, on BBC watching it, I don’t think any governing body will take you seriously. It wouldn’t scare a 2yo let alone a 6yo. The most frightening thing was that Thunderbirds style puppet that looked like a 70’s porn star in a Xmas sweater - all sorts of wrong there. Really nothing wrong for kids in it though.

RedskyThisNight · 27/12/2021 14:11

TBH the ad is really the tip of the iceberg. If the child is playing on an internet enabled device, unsupervised, then he can (and will before too long if he's not doing it already) get to pretty much anything that's out there on the internet.

Which is why young children need to be supervised and/or only allowed internet access on devices that are heavily restricted. Parents/responsible adults cannot rely on other people to do this for them. It's a bit like complaining that your child opened the "child proof" lid of the bleach and drank it - this isn't the fault of the bleach manufacturers.

Siepie · 27/12/2021 14:14

@Sitchervice

And because someone will tell me to scroll to the left
That's Google Play, not the App Store (which is an Apple app)
HoppingPavlova · 27/12/2021 14:14

NFI where BBC came from, a weird auto insert?

Stroopwaffle5000 · 27/12/2021 14:16

I just showed my 7 yr old and 9 yr old (who are scared of everything, might i add!) and both of them just laughed and said it was silly.

Wattfad · 27/12/2021 14:18

A 6 year old on an Internet enabled device without supervision? Crazy. Angry birds is a bit of an anomaly as its so well known, but anyone can make an app- unlikely it will be super popular but some targeted at children have inappropriate content within them or in the adverts.

Christinatherabbit · 27/12/2021 14:22

This Is clearly a wind up? Have 5 children never one at any age would have found any part of that advert remotely scary. Utterly bizarre!

MissNothing1991 · 27/12/2021 14:22

Even worse then that you let him play on an electronic device on a game with ads, without supervision 🙄

Why not buy him some toys, or a handheld actual gaming device like a Nintendo if you must. Highly doubt anyone will take a complaint seriously when you leave a child that age unattended playing it. No doubt one of the generation who are quick to go to the papers and complain when the child buys things using your card and then expect the bill to be wiped off when you realise. Another bug bearer of mine.