To think many are jealous of social media influencers

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There's a couple I follow on Instagram and it's obvious some of the things they show are ads and that's fine. When I watch itv it's free because there are ads, that's the world. You either pay for a service or it finds another way to make you pay.

But has anyone else notice how instamums attract so much negativity? It seems to be nothing more than jealously! They're not harming anyone and no one is forced to follow

I’m not on Instagram so this stuff passes me by.

Imagine dating the offspring of one if theses influencers. You wouldn't need to ask

What's your house like?
What do your parents do for a living?
Do you have any pets?
What was your childhood like?

I wonder how many of these kids will in future sue their parents for earnings that they feel should have been given to them. Parents making a mega wedge from pictures and videos of their cute 3 year old.

I think France has just brought in some laws aimed at protecting child 'influencers'.

*She had sold their privacy, their lives have been lived online and they can't consent. Their every move from conception to now virtually, is documented online.

There are millions of people, who know where she, and her children, live. They know the layout of her house and what security measures she has (or doesn't have).

There are nutters out there who have fan pages dedicated to her and her children.

She plays the "I'm just a normal girl and all this has happened and I just don't know how" when in reality it's been very cleverly and carefully curated.

All it takes is for one of those nutters to decide she's not paying them enough attention and decide to go to her home.

Even if that doesn't happen, can you imagine being 14 and having the school bully be able to peruse the entire back catalogue of your toddler temper tantrums, wet nappies and embarrassing moment on an open account. Or an employer at 21, checking your name and your digital footprint going back that far.*

No she hasn't, Sophie shares like 1% of her life with people. It's not her entire life like she's got webcams installed in her house for 24/7 viewing. She often has drawer days where she leaves her phone in the draw and doesn't check or post on social media. Hardly selling her children's privacy!

Some go on about their ‘success’ and ‘work’ and ‘career’. Writing posts for social media is something I cannot see as work. And posting things on social media is so intangible that I cannot see it as a career. Because it isn’t, really, is it? That’s not jealousy.

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*She had sold their privacy, their lives have been lived online and they can't consent. Their every move from conception to now virtually, is documented online.

There are millions of people, who know where she, and her children, live. They know the layout of her house and what security measures she has (or doesn't have).

There are nutters out there who have fan pages dedicated to her and her children.

She plays the "I'm just a normal girl and all this has happened and I just don't know how" when in reality it's been very cleverly and carefully curated.

All it takes is for one of those nutters to decide she's not paying them enough attention and decide to go to her home.

Even if that doesn't happen, can you imagine being 14 and having the school bully be able to peruse the entire back catalogue of your toddler temper tantrums, wet nappies and embarrassing moment on an open account. Or an employer at 21, checking your name and your digital footprint going back that far.*

No she hasn't, Sophie shares like 1% of her life with people. It's not her entire life like she's got webcams installed in her house for 24/7 viewing. She often has drawer days where she leaves her phone in the draw and doesn't check or post on social media. Hardly selling her children's privacy!

No she hasn't, Sophie shares like 1% of her life with people. It's not her entire life like she's got webcams installed in her house for 24/7 viewing. She often has drawer days where she leaves her phone in the draw and doesn't check or post on social media. Hardly selling her children's privacy

I’ve not read the whole thread. Are you her mum or her mate or something?

I judge people who publish personal information about and content with their DC, for money.

I’ve not read the whole thread. Are you her mum or her mate or something?

I was wondering the same.

No she hasn't, Sophie shares like 1% of her life with people. It's not her entire life like she's got webcams installed in her house for 24/7 viewing. She often has drawer days where she leaves her phone in the draw and doesn't check or post on social media. Hardly selling her children's privacy!

She shares what she wants to share, and it went from cleaning to posting about the children. Every day a post of the children doing not very interesting stuff. She can't afford too many 'drawer days' as she needs to keep current. But she's going to need to switch things up a bit if she wants to keep it interesting.
She has indeed sold their privacy, they are too young to object currently.

No she hasn't, Sophie shares like 1% of her life with people. It's not her entire life like she's got webcams installed in her house for 24/7 viewing. She often has drawer days where she leaves her phone in the draw and doesn't check or post on social media. Hardly selling her children's privacy!

The 1% that she sells, to however millions of people, those children cannot consent to. They can't give permission for their pictures and videos to be viewed by all those people. Whether she puts her phone in her drawer sometimes or not, I can go onto her account now, and find pictures and videos of her children from when they were born. They are online forever, whether she deletes them from her account or not. She doesn't know who I am, or you are, or who the other hundreds of thousands of people who see them every day are. That isn't privacy.

I think it's utterly bizarre. All these people posting fake pictures of their lives in order to get freebies and people believe that their lives are real...

I could have believed that it was an episode of Black Mirror a few years ago.

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How is it hurting their children?

Mrs hinch has been able to give up work and is the sole breadwinner allowing Mr hinch to give up work. They now get to spend their days spending more time with their two children and can provide for them everything they want. How exactly is that damaging them!

Are you serious? FFS, their whole life is on the fucking Internet, including the embarrassing stories and photos that they most likely would never want anyone to see!

You know the kind of stories that a significant other may hear round the dinner table from your parents, but you don't want all your school friends, uni friends, work friends, potential partners/employers or even worse the bullies you encounter in life having access to at the click of a button.

The sheer fact that people can't/won't see how this could damage children and can only see the material benefits really makes me worry for society

I have to admit I'd be jealous that these people are sent free stuff, particularly if they can afford to buy it, but I wouldn't resent them for it. Instamums aren't my thing but I'm a big fan of Luisa Zissman (LuAnna anyone?). I think she's a cracking woman who works very hard, and a lot of people give her shit online which I think is unfair.
For my pennies worth!

You seem very defensive of Mrs Hinch OP. Just my opinion, but when she was sharing content of just herself then not my cup of tea but good for her turning a hobby (is cleaning a hobby?!) into a lucrative career. I don't dislike her as I don't know her, but yes it makes me uncomfortable when people, not just her, post about their children and post photos to make £££s by shilling an unrealistic lifestyle and crappy ads. On the whole most adults can choose how much they are comfortable sharing about their lives and calculating the risks; children can't. I don't think any that have been a part of the big boom are old enough to really realise that all of their school mates can see photos and read stories of them potty training or whatever else.

There’s an awful lot of weird projection from you OP, onto other posters. Accusing people of things that are totally unrelated to what they’re saying, just because they’re not sycophantic about “influencers” (it’s NOT a job!) and say that their faux-perfection, appearance driven ‘content’ is facile and damaging. I think they’re absolutely right.

And I don’t understand why you’re so defensive of it?! Unless you are their mum or their mate? One of their mum’s did make a cock-up of defending them on here in the past, I believe. 😂

Ergh, that rogue apostrophe is bothering me.

Influencers?

Why is this even a ‘term’?

Is this the new term for marketing?

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*She had sold their privacy, their lives have been lived online and they can't consent. Their every move from conception to now virtually, is documented online.

There are millions of people, who know where she, and her children, live. They know the layout of her house and what security measures she has (or doesn't have).

There are nutters out there who have fan pages dedicated to her and her children.

She plays the "I'm just a normal girl and all this has happened and I just don't know how" when in reality it's been very cleverly and carefully curated.

All it takes is for one of those nutters to decide she's not paying them enough attention and decide to go to her home.

Even if that doesn't happen, can you imagine being 14 and having the school bully be able to peruse the entire back catalogue of your toddler temper tantrums, wet nappies and embarrassing moment on an open account. Or an employer at 21, checking your name and your digital footprint going back that far.*

No she hasn't, Sophie shares like 1% of her life with people. It's not her entire life like she's got webcams installed in her house for 24/7 viewing. She often has drawer days where she leaves her phone in the draw and doesn't check or post on social media. Hardly selling her children's privacy!

It’s stuff like this to be honest. You think you’re this woman’s friend. ‘Sophie often has drawer days when she doesn’t check or post on social media!’

You don’t know the woman. She’s selling a version of her life and her kid’s life, and this break from social media (which presumably she has posted about otherwise you wouldn’t know) is just part of it. It fosters a false intimacy with an audience that just isn’t present in other forms of media.

You see it on here all the time with Mrs Hinch, people calling her child ‘little Ronnie’ as if he’s their friend’s child. You don’t know these people, they’re trying to sell you stuff.

And as for mrs hinch being able to ‘provide them with all they want’ there’s more to life than stuff they want.

I’m providing my kids with a good example of a healthy work ethic where their dad and I work and I also study. I’m providing them an understanding of privacy and teaching my eldest now about the dangers of the internet and social media. One of the things I always tell him is to pretend he’s standing in the town centre loudly saying whatever you would post on social media - if you wouldn’t say it loudly in public don’t post it. It’s not like a WhatsApp group with friends or a text, it’s a public space. Many don’t understand that in my opinion.

Much like you wouldn’t hand pics of the kiddies in the bath out in Primark to strangers but you would possibly show mil. Different levels of appropriate privacy.

Mrs H did influence me to buy a tub of that pink stuff for 99p way back when. It's pretty good TBF.
But I was too tight to buy all the Minky cloths/Scrub Daddys etc. Maybe you have to be more open to the influencing to be influenced.

You see it on here all the time with Mrs Hinch, people calling her child ‘little Ronnie’ as if he’s their friend’s child. You don’t know these people, they’re trying to sell you stuff.

That's why it's so effective, people think they are friends

It’s stuff like this to be honest. You think you’re this woman’s friend. ‘Sophie often has drawer days when she doesn’t check or post on social media!’

Exactly. OP, you don't have a clue what 'Sophie' really does or doesn't do, or what she thinks. All you see is what she decides she wants her image to be. I find it baffling that people think they really know anything about what these people are actually like! It's a business, a brand - it's not real!

They'll promote a load of crap for a few quid. Yeah so green with envy at that pmsl

I have never understood why if you say you don't like something on MN or object to it that someone will always appear and say it's because you are jealous.

"The 1% that she sells, to however millions of people, those children cannot consent to. They can't give permission for their pictures and videos to be viewed by all those people. Whether she puts her phone in her drawer sometimes or not, I can go onto her account now, and find pictures and videos of her children from when they were born. They are online forever, whether she deletes them from her account or not. She doesn't know who I am, or you are, or who the other hundreds of thousands of people who see them every day are. That isn't privacy."

Good point, well made. I'm sure as hell not jealous of anyone who hasn't even grasped the basics about children/consent/instamumming or wtf it is called.