To not care what the government decided are Christmas…

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What a strange post. The government haven't made any rules about not seeing people over Christmas. Or have I missed something?

You are being unreasonable to tell us you’re double vaccinated. You are just as likely to spread covid as the unvaccinated.

It is true that double vaccinated people can catch and transmit Covid.

It is not true that they are just as likely to as the unvaccinated. Depending how many jabs they’ve had and how long ago, it’s somewhere between 30 and 90% reduction in risk.

hth.

In fairness to the OP, something as staid and conservative as seeing your family probably does feel like a major rebellion when its against the law. Very law abiding people have been tying themselves in knots throughout this when their natural desire to comply clashes with their rationality. Like the soul searching about whether it was ok to buy a bar of chocolate alongside your 'essentials'. People come on here to seek affirmation.

See your family OP, covid is nowhere near as deadly as, say, cancer, which killed my mum after a year of her barely seeing anyone.

Our current plan is that DH and I (both had Covid pre-vax, since had both doses plus booster) are spending a couple of days with DM (86, lives 2 hours away with no family nearer than us, has had all 3 doses).

However, if there are restrictions, we will follow them. And given where we live is an absolute COVID hotspot at the moment, we will keep an eye on things. We will also do LFT’s a few days before we go and on the morning we go.

And if any of that looks dodgy, we’ll discuss cancelling. Because I don’t want to kill my mother, who is pretty well, walks the dogs every day, but when push comes to shove, is 86.

Thanks for the nice comments. Not nice to be reminded I was feeling so much better before it all got worse again.
Smell came back but energy and concentration is missing in action. I really hope this doesn’t go on for too long.

I think it’s obvious what the op is up to here.

I do wish we could move on from the 'i don't want to kill my mother' melodrama. Its a very offensive way of saying you don't want to risk giving her covid. Can you imagine how language like that might feel to a child who has brought covid home from school, or someone with no choice but to go to high risk places and then interact with older relatives?

Which side would you like me to pin your medal on?

Should we all be adding things we are doing that we haven't been told not to do?

I thought I might go to a coffee shop later and not wear a mask, anyone else in England doing the same?

Tell us more fascinating details about what you would do in situations you just made up in your own head?

I was under the impression that nobody listened to the Government's twaddle anymore, or is this just where I live?

Nobody cares what you do or don't do for Christmas. If you really feel the need to make a big announcement about how you plan to respond to restrictions that only exist in your head at the moment can you at least keep it to the Coronavirus board?

People keep saying this ,but IF hospitalisations and deaths do start to massively increase ( and we don't know yet) most people then start sticking to the rules and even the ones determined to break the rules ,might find others don't want to see them ,

And - felt rough, tired, flu feeling etc?
But nothing serious
And not a whiff of a need of hospital care

OK I didn't care to respond until this. Now you're just being a twat.

Tell you what OP, I'm glad you feel you can go in if this new strain gets any worse. That you would feel no guilt about risking your small families life. I wish I could share the same lack of empathy and worry.

My worry is that should any of us need the hospital, our local one is struggling to cope.
My 6 year old had to go with breathing difficulties (pcr negative) and he was say in a corridor for 5 hours. Then was only seen because he'd improved such a lot and my husband suggested he came home and slept until we could see our own doctor (which ended up the same time as at a&e)

So yeah, I would rather keep cases low just in case because hospitals are struggling.

I will be having Christmas has planned.

Nightclubs and pubs are open, so why shouldn't I spend time with my family!

Nobody cares OP, why are you trying to start a fight about nothing?

YABVVU