[quote CurzonDax]@Darkpheonix - I 100% get your post (and thank you for such a reasoned debate/response!).
I agree that you can't be attracted to everyone. However, we are talking about the OP's partner of 5 years. A partner she even said had a little extra we8ght when they started dating. This isn't some random she's met in a bar. This is a 5 year relationship, where a lot of time and feelings for each other have already been invested.
I do believe she is shaming him for essentially "letting himself go" - this is someone she loves! Be supportive, don't give ultimatums due to the way he looks.[/quote]
I do get what you are saying. But I think the line that it doesn't matter if you change, if someone loves you they will stay isn't true.
And its possibly that I dont think believe 'love is blind'. I can generally meet someone who I may think isn't attractive at first and then become attracted to them due to their personality. That bit I get.
But, I also get losing attraction to someone.
My dp is 6ft 4in, massive shoulders etc he weighs 17.5 stone and still looks fairly slim, but has a lot of muscle. Not body builder style, just from having a manual job. If he rose to 19.5 stone, it would still be alot. Its quite a lot of weight. Regardless of people saying it's not.
Its enough that it's making sex uncomfortable for the op.
I can imagine if I decided to have loads of botox and lip fillers, dp would no longer find me attractive, either. I would accept that and if I really wanted to do it, I would. But that would be the risk.
I don't think time invested in a relationship really impacts wether you find someone attractive anymore or not.
Its really a really difficult situation because I see both sides, having put on a lot of weight when my mental health took a dive. I get why people want to believe that if someone loves you, everything else doesn't matter. But I don't believe it's actually the case.
I think lots of people would choose to over look the weight gain, but I think loss of attraction and enjoyment of sex can be a killer in many relationships. That doesn't mean they just don't notice the weight gain or it they donr find someone less attractive.
I think many people also over look the way our weight can change us as people. Many times when people moan about their partner gaining weight, there's also a change of their personality included. Nor wanting to go out, loss of motivation. And even if it's a MH, there's only so much your partner can do to support you.
When I think of the reasons I find my dp attractive, alot has to do with his personality. If he was suddenly unmotivated, unfunny, didn't want to do anything I would support him trying to get back to who he was. But if wanted to remain the same, eventually I would have to decide wether I could live with him like that for the rest of my life. I am sure some people would stay. But its not right for everyone.
I do agree ultimatums won't work. If he doesn't want to lose weight, threats won't help.
I am nor sure the phrase 'letting himself go' is really body shaming either, especially since she has described how he can't get out of chairs etc. He is letting his health go.
And on the flip side, how has he not noticed sex is uncomfortable for op and she isn't enjoying it as much. Or that she is unhappy. Where is his concern for her needs?
I genuinely don't think there's wrong or right here. I can see both sides.