To wonder why we’re still obsessed with Covid.

[bridgetreilly]

Three times as many people are dying of cancer every single day. More than ten times as many people are dying every day of other causes. But we aren’t getting daily updates about these on every news bulletin or website. Yes, people should get vaccinated, yes occasionally people are still getting very ill with it, and some are dying. But it is very far from being the great danger that it was 12-18 months ago. Can we just move on from the endless focus on it now?

You can't catch cancer. You can't transmit cancer to people you speak to or hug.

@bridgetreilly

Three times as many people are dying of cancer every single day. More than ten times as many people are dying every day of other causes. But we aren’t getting daily updates about these on every news bulletin or website. Yes, people should get vaccinated, yes occasionally people are still getting very ill with it, and some are dying. But it is very far from being the great danger that it was 12-18 months ago. Can we just move on from the endless focus on it now?

Cancer isn't infectious/contagious.

Covid hospitalisations/deaths are relatively low only because of the ongoing vaccination program and continued precautions.

It's not gone away and we aren't "over it", as evidenced by the new variant which is causing concern.

People need to be reminded to continue to take precautions - no one is 100% safe, whether they're fully jabbed, already had it, or whatever.

Everyone I know who's in the medical or health profession are tearing their hair out at the general apathy towards Covid. YABU

The timing of this thread was excellent given the government have now put four countries on the red list due to the concerns over the new variant.

Must be hard for the people with short attention spans and limited intelligence that the real world is still thinking about the science here.

You really need an explanation of why a global pandemic is newsworthy or why covid, a highly contagious, incurable, virus that is closing schools and workplaces and crippling the health service is not the same as cancer??

@Blinky21

You really need an explanation of why a global pandemic is newsworthy or why covid, a highly contagious, incurable, virus that is closing schools and workplaces and crippling the health service is not the same as cancer??

People who ask these types of 'questions' the OP has posted are either: a) thick b) deliberately missing the point c) a bit of both

My friend is seriously ill with cancer at the moment and I think she’d prefer that people continued to take Covid seriously, given that it poses a huge risk to her if she catches it.

Pretending it’s Covid vs cancer and that we can all only care about one or the other is extremely disingenuous.

Covid isn’t over for me, as a sufferer of Long Covid. I caught it at the start of the pandemic and I’m still a long way from over it. I’m 52 and still have school aged children.

There are many others like me, as you would find out from Long Covid Facebook pages, or on the coronavirus board. Many of them are a lot younger than I am, and with no pre-existing health problems.

Admittedly, it’s still very much a minority of those who catch Covid, for the majority it’s still a mild illness and I’m not certainly not advocating a return to restrictions (though I think masks should still be required).

But there’s no room for complacency.

Me too @LizzieW1969 Caught it over a year ago and nowhere near back to normal. Future plans all up in the air, life is crap. Agree that the complacency is unbelievable.

People are still talking about it because it's still a problem.

People are still catching it, getting ill and dying.

The issue we have now in the UK and particually in England is complacency. In Scotland there is still widespread mask usage, people still give each other space etc. Having been to England a few times since the summer there is none of that - it's as if the pandemic never happened.

@BonnesVacances

Everyone I know who's in the medical or health profession are tearing their hair out at the general apathy towards Covid. YABU

My experience is totally opposite to this! It seems even the medical professions are divided. Most I know are still reeling about the shutdown of large parts of the health services during the first lockdown and the repercussions of this that are still being dealth with.

@MrsBerthaRochester

Yanbu. The simple fact is that most of the folk who have died with covid(and I use with deliberately) have been elderly. For the vast majority its a minor illness.

The simple fact is the above exposes you to be simple-minded and easy prey social media memes as you've repeated at least three just there. Imagine you have heart disease, Bertha. You've had it for some time. You take medication for your high blood pressure, of course. On top of this, you catch a hefty dose of Covid. You become very unwell after a time, as the disease inflames your heart condition somewhat and your blood pressure becomes uncontrolled. Huge blood clots develop in your lungs. The inevitable occurs.

You died of Covid, Bertha, and your heart condition as a joint cause of death.

Don't be an idiot. It isn't a mild illness for everyone. Even 'mild' means different things for different people.

@Dishhh

*@MrsBerthaRochester*

Yanbu. The simple fact is that most of the folk who have died with covid(and I use with deliberately) have been elderly. For the vast majority its a minor illness.

The simple fact is the above exposes you to be simple-minded and easy prey social media memes as you've repeated at least three just there. Imagine you have heart disease, Bertha. You've had it for some time. You take medication for your high blood pressure, of course. On top of this, you catch a hefty dose of Covid. You become very unwell after a time, as the disease inflames your heart condition somewhat and your blood pressure becomes uncontrolled. Huge blood clots develop in your lungs. The inevitable occurs.

You died of Covid, Bertha, and your heart condition as a joint cause of death.

Don't be an idiot. It isn't a mild illness for everyone. Even 'mild' means different things for different people.

Indeed. I'll be sure to let DD know that Covid is a mild illness @MrsBerthaRochester. 20 years old and been bedbound with Long Covid since May 2020. She'll be thrilled to hear that it was nothing to worry about unless you're elderly.

Meanwhile let's hope that you don't need any medical treatment or a stay in hospital and your bed isn't blocked by someone being treated for Covid. Unless you're advocating that people with Covid are not treated so that people with other conditions can start to get a look in?

Yes, let it run rampant so that there's no room in hospitals for all those cancer patients.

Covid is totally different to cancer and other diseases.

We can actually do something about covid - we can get vaccinated against it, and lots of people haven't and are getting very ill and taking up hospital beds and putting the NHS under unnecessary strain and pressure.

There isn't a vaccination against (most) cancer. And many other illnesses that people die from.

If people would just get vaccinated then it would disappear from the news, because there would be much less cases, and they would be less severe.

From a doctor's perspective:

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/21/icu-is-full-of-the-unvaccinated-my-patience-with-them-is-wearing-thin

It's quite simply if you ignore it and try to "live with it" the hospitals will get overrun and they can't treat things like cancer etc so they overall mortality for every cause of death goes up. There is no "live with it" option until we can keep the numbers at a manageable point. I don't know why people can't understand this.

The amount of times I've hear 'we have to live with it ' rolled out.
Usually by people who are anti vaxxers or not had a dose of it.

COVID is a death sentence for cancer patients going through chemo.

Until it impacts a person directly, either by death or severe illness, I do understand it's easy to be relaxed about it.

Have you seen the news about the new variant in Africa? It possibly resistant to the vaccine. That’s why we have to keep on top of it.

But if we don't keep a lid on Covid, soon there will be more Covid deaths than cancer deaths. Cancer doesn't have the potential to multiply exponentially and go out of control in a matter of weeks. So, no, it's not the top thing in my brain, but it's up there.

YANBU - it is ridiculous. Luckily there are still enough people who are willing to socialise eg in pubs -not everyone is a grim catastrophist.

Can we just move on from the endless focus on it now?

So why did you start a thread in AIBU when there is an actual Coronavirus board to post on?

I'm not even seeing a focus on it. I'm seeing packed tube trains full of unmasked people and people still not getting vaccinated. It's not exactly panic stations in London, I tell you - it may well have never happened.

@MrsJackWhicher devoid of compassion obviously. You do realise that if cases rise, logistically it will be incredibly difficult to care for everyone safely ? So the post chemo patient may well be inadvertently exposed to a covid positive patient or staff member....