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To wonder why we’re still obsessed with Covid.

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bridgetreilly · 25/11/2021 17:11

Three times as many people are dying of cancer every single day. More than ten times as many people are dying every day of other causes. But we aren’t getting daily updates about these on every news bulletin or website. Yes, people should get vaccinated, yes occasionally people are still getting very ill with it, and some are dying. But it is very far from being the great danger that it was 12-18 months ago. Can we just move on from the endless focus on it now?

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MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/11/2021 06:34

@FreeBritnee

It’s because it causes an acute illness that needs rapid medical treatment and is infecting pretty much everyone as it’s a novel virus. This threatens western countries health care system so if all hospitals are full of covid patients your child will not get seen when they break a leg or contract an illness that requires a hospital stay.

Exactly! Why is this so difficult for people to see?
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MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/11/2021 06:37

@tttigress

I agree children and young people are the ones that have given up the most in this pandemic, we need to give them a break.

(Other than of course the people do B have lost their lives)
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WinterIcelandicPony · 26/11/2021 06:37

@DriftingBlue

Because only those privileged with good health have been able to move on from Covid. Complaining just makes you look callous.

This. Clinically vulnerable child here who is too young for the vaccine (FFS Boris, roll out the vaccines to a younger and vulnerable age group!). And stop with the goddam propaganda that it does not affect kids. It DOES affect some kids desperately badly, and kills others. I cannot tell you how envious I am of people who can just shrug covid off mentally because of good health of those around them.

(We also know an 11 year old child who was in fantastic health, (skiing, sailing, horse riding, cross country runner) no known underlying conditions who got covid before the summer holidays and has not been able to get up and out of the house since. She needs to be carried to the toilet for god's sake. )
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stayathomer · 26/11/2021 06:39

It's because you can think you have a little cold, infect someone just by being in their presence and they can land in hospital. I don't think that happens with cancer?

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LilyTheMink · 26/11/2021 06:42

@Moonmelodies

Also worth considering, the more the virus is able to spread and multiply, the more likely it will mutate. No one wants to turn on the news and find a new variant means fresh travel restrictions etc.

Didn't that just happen?
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Howareyouflower · 26/11/2021 06:46

You haven't thought it out properly. My husband has cancer, two types, in fact. I can't catch it, though, so from that point of view, I don't worry. Covid, though? I could catch it, and it would have a devastating effect on us both if I did. Try telling the patients who wait for 5-6 hours and more, in the back of an ambulance, outside our local hospital, because inside the hospital they're still overwhelmed with Covid patients, not enough beds, and not enough staff. This isn't something that only happened in lockdown. My husband came out of hospital a few days ago. They were so short staffed that the woman who took him from clinic to the ward, after a six hour wait, was not a porter or a nurse, she was the person who spends all day in an office, on a phone, trying to find beds for people. All these reasons and more, are why we should still worry about Covid.

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Werehamster · 26/11/2021 07:04

I live abroad and desperately want to travel to the UK to visit my family who I haven't seen in person in 3 years now. We still can't go because we would have to quarantine on return home for 10 days which is too hard with the children. I was hoping things would get better by next spring but I just don't know anymore. All we can do is wait and see. This new Botswana variant is very worrying too. I don't understand how people can minimise the effect covid has had. People are still dying of it. People are still getting very sick. People are still ending up with long covid. Just because you are fed up with it and want it to end, doesn't mean it will end any time soon.

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bigvig · 26/11/2021 07:10

Yanbu - yes covid kills people - so does flu, so do lots of things, so does lockdown. We are yet to find out how many excess deaths are down to cancelled appointments, delayed referrals and not covid. I suspect the reason covid is being shoved down our necks is because the media love it - ad revenues from government have kept them afloat, and big pharmaceutical companies are making billions ( they are the biggest lobby group to government). The government also love being able to give itself mad powers and sell off our NHS. There has been very little discussion of the fact that the recent social care bill included clauses which allow for part privatisation of the NHS. Whatever this is all about, it's not about covid.

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muddyford · 26/11/2021 07:16

I watched ITV news last night, rather than the shroud-waving BBC, and was pleasantly surprised by the more positive tone around Covid. I recommend the book A State of Fear for the background and ongoing manipulation of our minds over the last couple of years, and I am very far from being a conspiracy theorist.

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Littlejuice · 26/11/2021 07:19

Mrs BR I am sorry but I can show you the evidence if you want. ITU capacity is full, it was full before covid so you add in that and we cancel surgery. I work in ITU but I'm happy to see your alternative evidence? Were all sick of it but in the NHS we can't treat you for anything else - cancer surgery, cardiac surgery, if all our staff are looking after people with covid. It makes me cry every day - which life.saving surgery do we postpone today?

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Fredstheteds · 26/11/2021 07:20

I find it’s all over- went into GPS to get ovulation blood test. Women full of cold, sniff, sniff , cough , cough . No mask... come on pretext others and wear a mask... no one challenged her.

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Iggly · 26/11/2021 07:22

@bigvig

Yanbu - yes covid kills people - so does flu, so do lots of things, so does lockdown. We are yet to find out how many excess deaths are down to cancelled appointments, delayed referrals and not covid. I suspect the reason covid is being shoved down our necks is because the media love it - ad revenues from government have kept them afloat, and big pharmaceutical companies are making billions ( they are the biggest lobby group to government). The government also love being able to give itself mad powers and sell off our NHS. There has been very little discussion of the fact that the recent social care bill included clauses which allow for part privatisation of the NHS. Whatever this is all about, it's not about covid.

So the NHS are making up all those extra covid patients who are very much needing treatment and it has a knock on effect?

I find it shocking that people are prepared to disengage their logical brain when it comes to covid.

Honestly

It’s a pandemic. You cannot wish it away.
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Learntoloveyourself · 26/11/2021 07:22

YABVVVU for not posting this on the coronavirus topic. It’s there for a reason.

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BitterTits · 26/11/2021 07:24

I'm not. I work in the midst of it every day in a secondary school. It's just background meh now and I'm getting on with it.

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Neuropsy112 · 26/11/2021 07:28

I work in children's cancer. We're all pretty darn interested in Covid in our hospital.

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MrsLargeEmbodied · 26/11/2021 07:29

there are excess deaths due to covid
there are now new mutations of covid

we need to be aware

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JustDanceAddict · 26/11/2021 07:29

You can’t compare it to cancer etc.
It’s a transmittable virus that has potential to completely overwhelm the health service, which is why cases need to be kept low. Already there’s a massive backlog.

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Howareyouflower · 26/11/2021 07:32

@Fredstheteds

I find it’s all over- went into GPS to get ovulation blood test. Women full of cold, sniff, sniff , cough , cough . No mask... come on pretext others and wear a mask... no one challenged her.

You needed my husband. Completely Compos Mentis but can't walk far so uses a wheelchair, and is 77. He suddenly started talking in a very loud voice "Why hasn't that man got a mask on?" "He's walking up and down without a mask, don't let him come near me". This was about a medical rep who came into the surgery just after us and didn't just sit down and wait, but paced up and down in the 'safe space' between chairs. The man took the hint and sat down in the furthest chair away from us, though he still didn't put on a mask!
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Grumpyosaurus · 26/11/2021 07:35

Because it's fucking up health care.

I know someone who was unable to get a face-to-face GP appointment when he first developed some very dodgy symptoms. Three months later, after being fobbed off and prescribed stuff over the phone, he finally wangled a face to face.

He turned out to have cancer. He was dead two months later.

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Jconnais1chansonquivavsenerver · 26/11/2021 07:46

YABVVVU. Or extremely dense.

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SummerOrAutumn · 26/11/2021 07:47

We had covid in February last year before there was testing for it. I now have long term health problems most likely caused by covid.

I have also had to have two operations this year to save my eyesight. Without those I would be facing blindness and so huge changes to my life whilst still in my 50s.

If the hospitals were filled with covid patients I wouldn't have been able to have those operations. Likewise anyone else with urgent medical care.

If you don't understand why we must still be careful and think of covid, then try thinking about people who are clinically vulnerable and how the presence of covid impacts their daily lives. There are some people who are so vulnerable that they cannot leave their homes. Those people cannot forget we are STILL in the midst of a potentially fatal pandemic.

If you are healthy and got over covid then great, pleased for you. But remember those people who are affected still and stop being so selfish. Extra deaths on top of those from cancer and other illnesses is NOT acceptable.

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C8H10N4O2 · 26/11/2021 07:47

@bridgetreilly

Three times as many people are dying of cancer every single day. More than ten times as many people are dying every day of other causes. But we aren’t getting daily updates about these on every news bulletin or website. Yes, people should get vaccinated, yes occasionally people are still getting very ill with it, and some are dying. But it is very far from being the great danger that it was 12-18 months ago. Can we just move on from the endless focus on it now?

You seem to be confusing AIBU with the covid conspiracy board over thataway ====>
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logsonlogsoff · 26/11/2021 07:48

Cancer doesn’t shut down schools,
Offices and the economy. What a stupid AIBU.

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nightfairy · 26/11/2021 07:55

Can we just move on from the endless focus on it now?

(a) You're the one bringing it up unnecessarily, and on AIBU.

(b) Unless you are over 100, which I am guessing you are not, this is the first time in your lifetime that the entire world has dealt with a pandemic of this magnitude. It is by no means over. Soz if that's boring for you.

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Keke94LND · 26/11/2021 07:58

@FindingMeno

I think so many people had had enough now.
Stop treating voluntarily unvaccinated people in hospital, and give the people who have no choice in their health condition a chance.

Where do you draw the line? Smokers? Alcoholics? Car accidents caused by people driving too fast or drunk drivers? Let's just not treat them cause it's their own fault?
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