To wonder why we’re still obsessed with Covid.

[bridgetreilly]

Three times as many people are dying of cancer every single day. More than ten times as many people are dying every day of other causes. But we aren’t getting daily updates about these on every news bulletin or website. Yes, people should get vaccinated, yes occasionally people are still getting very ill with it, and some are dying. But it is very far from being the great danger that it was 12-18 months ago. Can we just move on from the endless focus on it now?

YABU
I speak only for myself of course. But if you too had lost a family member in their early 30s, seen a healthy older neighbour reduced to a shambling shadow, tried to get any dental or non-covid medical treatment over the past two years, or missed relatives that live abroad, you might not be so surprised why there has been such a big continuing focus on a worldwide pandemic that now threatens a new mutation due to the west hogging the vaccines.

@Twillow

YABU I speak only for myself of course. But if you too had lost a family member in their early 30s, seen a healthy older neighbour reduced to a shambling shadow, tried to get any dental or non-covid medical treatment over the past two years, or missed relatives that live abroad, you might not be so surprised why there has been such a big continuing focus on a worldwide pandemic that now threatens a new mutation due to the west hogging the vaccines.

Yes! I think when you've sat and held someone's hand as they're dying it makes you even more scared of the virus than ever before

We're all a bit bored of it but just think how many people with cancer etc will die as a result of not getting treatment quickly enough because the hospitals are overflowing with covid patients.

Can we just move on from the endless focus on it now?

It is quite amusing to see several of the more relentless posters on the Covid board piping up 'yanbu' on this thread. I guess antivaxxers and deniers and minimisers like to share the love.

@bridgetreilly are you coming back to answer any of the points made in your thread?

A local primary school has 19 cases in one class, some of the children quite poorly. It's no wonder people are still " obsessed" with it.

YANBU until the government start HONESTLY recording COVID deaths I will not trust a word they say. My neighbor died of a terminal brain tumour, she had tested positive for COVID, neighbors husband had to fight to have COVID removed from death certificate as reason fir death!

This OP aged well.

Such a foolish post. Makes no sense comparing with other conditions when intensive care units are filling up and general healthcare provision saturated and getting worse.

@spanieleyes

A local primary school has 19 cases in one class, some of the children quite poorly. It's no wonder people are still " obsessed" with it.

Yep. Could be one of my dcs schools. It’s ridiculous and it’s rubbing off the kids as they’re understandably worried seeing classmates and teachers drop down with it.

@user1471474462

I feel like those saying “death happens” in this thread, wouldn’t comment on a thread discussing cancer treatment and saying “cancer happens”.

A family member in their 40’s died today of covid, no underlying health conditions. But death happens right?

Ask anyone who works in a hospital why were still talking about covid.

I have a friend who works in hospital and when the shit hits the fan and it will there will be a shock to the monumental manipulation of the governments and media to make only covid deaths worth the news and the many dying and dead because other things being ignored. Sorry people die of covid but they do everyday of many things. FACT

20 of my kids class went down at one point but I still think they should be at school. I don’t think it’s fair to brand that as selfish. My son was depressed by the end of lockdown and my youngest was scared of people. They’ve missed sports days, nursery graduations, parties, birthday celebrations and holidays. A close relative has had a missed cancer diagnosis and a very close one has been in terrible pain because of delayed surgery. Yes it’s first world problems. Yes I feel desperately for those who are vulnerable. But there has to be a point at which those who are fit and healthy can resume life and those who are not choose whether or not to shield. My Nan has been in a care home throughout. She’s said over and over that she’d rather have less time and get to see her loved ones. I hate the way this has been made into a black and white issue with everyone who wants some normality being branded as reckless. It’s not fair as it’s so much more complex.

I agree the fit should be able to just get on with life but could you please spare a thought for those of us who aren't well. Wear a mask and keep your distance, its not much to ask. I am fed up of reminding people to give me space, I wear a mask in shops but I am often one of the few that do.

Well said @Ddot

@Ddot I do both of these things. You are rather proving my point. Just because I want the really important things to go back to normal doesn’t automatically mean that I won’t make adjustments where it’s sensible and that I don’t “spare a thought”.

Lifethroughlences
Well that's good but unfortunately you are the minority. Boris was a prize winning pillock to make maskes optional.

@Ddot he was/is. We are being ‘led’ by fuckwits!

We need a completely new party, conservatives are out of touch, posh thoughtless pillocks and labour are lying backstabbing shits. In my humble opinion you should have to have held down a job for ten years before you get in parliament. Not straight from mammy to university then tell us what to do from the ivory tower

@Ddot

Lifethroughlences Well that's good but unfortunately you are the minority. Boris was a prize winning pillock to make maskes optional.

Oh yes indeed. It shocked me at the time that he just flung his hands up in the air and said 'all bets are off' essentially. I am 48 and vulnerable. I have an 11 year old who is vulnerable and too yoiung for vaccines. I just do 't want to sacrifice our health (possibly our lives) and live in a state of fear because people think taking measures is too much of an ask because of their human right to not wear a mask blah bloody blah.

a family member gasping for breath on the floor covered in own shit, brings reality back to you

Oh I have posted the same things on so many threads I am getting dizzy, but I despair at the understanding I have come to from these threads that there is a substantial proportion of people who genuinely do not give a shit if the vulnerable die as long as their right to shop at Sainsbos without mitigating measures remains.

But you do have to appreciate how low the risk actually is from getting Covid from an unmasked stranger in a shop. Look at the statistics. If you are double vaxxed/double vaxxed with a booster then your chances of hospitalisation are very low (well under 1%). Then it supposed someone who is asymptomatic is carrying Covid (again statistically unlikely). Then that you are in contact with them for sufficient time to catch it. Again hugely unlikely in a shop where you are moving around. I appreciate that it’s very frightening if you are vulnerable but you can control your own risk to a very large extent. And the risk is phenomenally weighted in terms of being someone in your household.

I think the people who piss me off the most are those who claim to be exempt from wearing a mask. Unless they have a learning disability that makes it too difficult, or a severe anxiety disorder, where anxiety is triggered by having a mask over their mouth and nose (a tiny percentage of those with anxiety disorders), you can bloody wear one. A lot of people winge that they can’t breath properly in one - it’s a bloody miracle that NHS staff, airline staff etc, manage to wear them for 12 hours or more a day without passing out! If someone’s asthma is so bad that they can’t wear one, they are having an acute anxiety attack and wouldn’t be strolling around the shops in that state. The same pretty much applies to COPD with a tiny percentage of sufferers. Yet we see large numbers of fit, healthy adults avoiding wearing one by saying they are exempt. Selfish twats!

Except with a tiny percentage of (COPD) sufferers 🙄

@Lifethroughlenses

But you do have to appreciate how low the risk actually is from getting Covid from an unmasked stranger in a shop. Look at the statistics. If you are double vaxxed/double vaxxed with a booster then your chances of hospitalisation are very low (well under 1%). Then it supposed someone who is asymptomatic is carrying Covid (again statistically unlikely). Then that you are in contact with them for sufficient time to catch it. Again hugely unlikely in a shop where you are moving around. I appreciate that it’s very frightening if you are vulnerable but you can control your own risk to a very large extent. And the risk is phenomenally weighted in terms of being someone in your household.

Well as I said my vulnerable child is too young for the vacc so far. If you can point me to the exact statistics to which you refer that will allay my fears about being vulnerable and having a vulnerable child I would be most grateful.