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AIBU to think seclusion is a ridiculous behaviour management policy?

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doggieflooflove · 24/11/2021 22:29

Now I know In some circumstances it's necessary, but as a general behaviour management tool it's awful.
DS is in yr7. He unfortunately had his first experience of seclusion today after being involved in an incident last week. No fights, malicious behaviour etc, just some silliness that went too far. Now I totally accept that he should be sanctioned and take his punishment.
But a whole day in a room with just a work sheet to fill in, missing 7 lessons including a graded test?
Why not just send them to the seclusion room at breaks/ for lunch for example? For DS, it's not part or a pattern of behaviour or an escalation. So a whole day of education missed for what?
Yes of course I'm hoping it will help him realise what is not acceptable behaviour so will behave better in future.
But really? Surely there's a better way than this unless its the only option left?
Help me accept this is the way it is at secondary please!

OP posts:
Embracelife · 27/11/2021 09:27

If he doesn't want seclusion he needs to walk away from trouble and silliness
Lesson learnt
He was doing work sheets.
He may have learned something

Branleuse · 27/11/2021 11:52

@Skyll

I’m sorry but you’re minimising what your son did.

I hope he has learnt from this.

11 year old boys doing a bundle in the playground. Hardly outrageous.
JustLyra · 27/11/2021 12:15

No-one was missing out on learning because of OP's child. The incident leading to this was in the playground.

Someone would have missed out on learning when they got hurt

Larryyourwaiter · 27/11/2021 13:04

The thing is a rule is a rule. It doesn’t matter if this was the first time your child did this or the tenth. It’s a rule.

I work in a school where isolation has been suspended to staff shortages and it’s a fucking nightmare. Lots of these children are now being housed in the student support room and disrupting those students instead.
Lots of silliness is dangerous and upsetting for others.

To be honest the main issue has been the amount of staff time lost with no isolation room. It was a sharp shock for some and now it’s having a huge knock on in staff sorting out issues and managing students, rather than them being in one room.

IWentAwayIStayedAway · 27/11/2021 13:53

Would love to know what you'd be looking done if it was your child bullied in the playground. Hope he is spending weekend with no tech catching up with school work and writing a letter of apology to the child in question. Thats what my child would be doing

bangonandupwego · 27/11/2021 17:09

@IWentAwayIStayedAway

Would love to know what you'd be looking done if it was your child bullied in the playground. Hope he is spending weekend with no tech catching up with school work and writing a letter of apology to the child in question. Thats what my child would be doing
The child being"bundled" had done the bundling first so no one is coming out of this well.
sillysmiles · 29/11/2021 14:21

If he fails his exams for one day of seclusion - he was never going to pass anything anyway.

It's one day.

I think it is important to note that in secondary school environment - your child is not a beautiful and unique snowflake and no one has time to truly understand the deeper meaning of his misbehaviour.
Plan silly games win silly prizes.

Glittertwins · 29/11/2021 16:58

Just from the other point of view, our DS was the unfortunate "victim" of a silly bundle.
It resulted in a call from school to take him to A&E because he hit his head on the ground. He lost most of the school day, DH and I lost the same time from work waiting in shifts with him at the hospital between us. That's a heck of a lot more hours lost of education and working than a child learning in isolation

JustLyra · 29/11/2021 17:35

I do think this is quite indicative of what schools face a lot of the time.

There’s a new, dangerous, thing becoming a problem so they come down hard on it… and get shit from parents for doing so.

FrippEnos · 29/11/2021 18:20

@MrsLargeEmbodied

ds got in trouble for throwing equipment in year 7

it was a pencil

We had a child throw a rubber. We because of that we also had a child that is blind in one eye.

It wasn't done on purpose but that was the outcome.

From bundles we have had bruises, cuts, broken arms, ribs and legs.

Its very similar to why kids are no longer allowed to play bulldog at break.

FallonCarringtonWannabe · 29/11/2021 18:45

@Glittertwins

Just from the other point of view, our DS was the unfortunate "victim" of a silly bundle. It resulted in a call from school to take him to A&E because he hit his head on the ground. He lost most of the school day, DH and I lost the same time from work waiting in shifts with him at the hospital between us. That's a heck of a lot more hours lost of education and working than a child learning in isolation
Perhaps op would prefer to be billed for you and your dh’s loss of earnings? And also the cost of a tutor for half a day.

And maybe parents would prefer to be billed for damage caused by their children, too, instead of a punishment that doesnt actually solve the issue of things needing paying for out of already stretched budgets.

The child does not return to school until all bills are paid.

Glittertwins · 30/11/2021 09:25

@FallonCarringtonWannabe
Maybe a focus on the bottom line is what is needed

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