Why do people believe Covid was made in a lab?

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I saw this on another thread about someone having a cold - where does this theory come from? I only know one person who believes this, who interestingly is in medicine. I have no strong opinion, just trying to live through this like most people. But I’m interested in why people might believe this.

Maybe the age-old stereotype about evil Chinese scientists taking over the world.

Because some people who specialise in studying such things think it is possible.

I don't know the woman's name, and she's been severely targeted for her statements, but apparently there's a significant possibility which no one wants to dwell on.

Isn't it because Wuhan has a lab that studies coronaviruses? I don't know where i think it came from but I'm sure that's a reason people believe it came from a lab.

I think because there is a lab in wuhan that looks into diseases.

I just googled, it’s the Wuhan Institute of Virology

I'm no conspiracy theorist or anything and don't really have an opinion, but I found this a decent read on the subject from a reputable source.

thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

Because people saw there’s a lab in Wuhan studying viruses and don’t realise how many labs there are studying viruses around the world or even just in their own country and how many different viruses such labs study. It would be almost impossible for a pandemic not to start within a certain distance of one.
These people also don’t understand that you can tell whether a virus is artificially made or not.

I do think it a very weird coincidence that the virus originated from Wuhan where there is a lab where they study Corona virus’. I don’t think that means it was man made but more likely a leaked lab situation.

Because it’s plausible. And no, I’m not a conspiracy theorist.

www.ft.com/content/5e20cb73-78aa-4f7d-a5e1-c548261af8c8

Look up ‘Wuhan Institute of Virology’ (Coronavirus Research) on Wikipedia.

Because it’s highly possible? It wouldn’t necessarily be a malicious release, but if janitorial staff took carcasses to earn a few bucks on the side, then it’s not implausible.

Porton Down released viruses that they'd been working on into the general outdoors, to see what the results would be - I think that was in the 80s iirc.

Also, a number of viruses (such as ebola) are patented. Whether this is because the patent-holder originally created/developed them or merely was the first to identify them and wants the patent to safeguard their own research interests/profits (questionable ethics there) in studying them, I don't know.

Whatever their origins, I suppose you have to 'know your enemy' by researching the make-up and effects of viruses - you can't just run at them with a big pointy stick. Also, some viruses can actually be beneficial - whether they have unilaterally good effects for those exposed to them or e.g. they kill off animals/plants/organisms considered by humans to be pests.

Yes I'm in medical resarch area and i wouldn't rule out the possibility it leaked from a lab, it has an unusual combination of features... i wouldn't say i BELIEVE believe in it but people fuck up in all lines of work.

"Nice work on the furin cleavage site Bob, really interesting stuff. Nasty cough you've got there though. Why don't you take the day off and go down the seafood market?"

I’m no conspiracy theorist, but when I had covid, the weird change in taste I got reminded me of having a come down off a chemical substance from back in the day, it didn’t feel like any virus I’ve ever had.

I have no other basis for thinking it’s man made than this, I’ve since had my jabs, I’m not generally one for believing these kind of weird ideas, but it does make me think…

I'm interested in this too, don't know that many details, but from what I understand:

• Wuhan research lab close to the supposed wet market where the virus was said to have originated from
• The genetic code of the virus didn't look like something that would occur naturally and seemed to be spliced together from several different viruses
• NIH funding 'gain of function' research in Wuhan - see debates between Dr Rand Paul and Dr Fauci

Because someone ate a bat and the whole world got infected sounds bonkers

There's a lot of nuanced options here, it's possible that it was ...

An artificial virus made in the lab
A natural virus that escaped from the lab
A natural virus that was modified in some way that escaped from the lab.

There is reasonable circumstantial evidence of lab escape at least. The idea that it evolved naturally and passed to humans isn't necessarily convincing as there are a lot of gaps in that theory. An immediate animal host was never identified for example.

Because it’s plausible. And no, I’m not a conspiracy theorist.

I hate the blanket way people hurl accusations of 'conspiracy theorist' at anybody who questions or doubts the official narrative on anything - irrespective of whether their theory/belief is beyond all absurdity or, as you say, could indeed be very plausible and at least might merit some consideration.

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll

Porton Down released viruses that they'd been working on into the general outdoors, to see what the results would be - I think that was in the 80s iirc.

Also, a number of viruses (such as ebola) are patented. Whether this is because the patent-holder originally created/developed them or merely was the first to identify them and wants the patent to safeguard their own research interests/profits (questionable ethics there) in studying them, I don't know.

Whatever their origins, I suppose you have to 'know your enemy' by researching the make-up and effects of viruses - you can't just run at them with a big pointy stick. Also, some viruses can actually be beneficial - whether they have unilaterally good effects for those exposed to them or e.g. they kill off animals/plants/organisms considered by humans to be pests.

No, viruses are not patented, Factcheck here www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-patents-idUSKBN27C1PA

The USA and the WHO have been investigating if it could be a lab leak.

There are thousands of labs around the world studying strange viruses - it’s not implausible that an accident or something could occur.

I think it is possible there was an accident in the nearby lab, there was some odd things around doctors in China who where vocal about a “nee” illness who have reported being silenced by the Chinese government - if there was an accident, given the Chinese record on human rights it wouldn’t surprise me if there as a cover up either.

All of this has been documented on bbc news etc, so it’s not too far fetched

Seriously people, this has been extensively covered in MSM, and is absolutely one of the possible origins of Covid that has been considered.

Broadly a laboratory link has not been entirely ruled out, though it's felt unlikely.

This Wikipedia page covers it quite well

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigationsintootheoriginnof_COVID-19

It's not a conspiracy theory - because what's not claimed is that it was grown in a lab with malintent or anything. It's that the lab worked with bats, the virus could have developed & leaked out.

In the WHO investigation, Tedros Adhanom was critical that lab leak was ruled out too soon.

What was ultimately concluded was that it's not possible to trace the origins, that while bat-originating, the index case cannot be determined.

It's nothing at all to do with any conspiracy theory & has been much discussed & reported on in various media.

@EishetChayil

Maybe the age-old stereotype about evil Chinese scientists taking over the world.

If it's true about the leak, it was international research including funding from the USA and the EU (when we were still part of it).

And leak indicates accident. Nothing intentional.

inews.co.uk/news/science/covid-lab-leak-theory-researcher-alina-chan-china-wuhan-cover-up-death-threats-1313505

www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-covid-lab-leak-theory-just-got-even-stronger

The last known case of smallpox in the U.K. was a result of lab escape. It's not unheard of.

I agree with your points sausageroll but on this:

who questions or doubts the official narrative

The lab leak possibility was part of the official narrative (investigation).

My Chinese beautician knows that area well and she believes strongly that it was leaked by accident from the laboratory. She laughs at the bat theory as why now. No idea will we ever know