Why do people believe Covid was made in a lab?

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I saw this on another thread about someone having a cold - where does this theory come from? I only know one person who believes this, who interestingly is in medicine. I have no strong opinion, just trying to live through this like most people. But I’m interested in why people might believe this.

Bit of a tangent, but I’m also interested to know why China is still pursuing a taxing “zero covid” strategy when the rest of the world has a “living with covid” strategy.

It reminds me of at the beginning of the pandemic, when the Chinese government were saying “there is no evidence of human to human transmission” yet they were also spraying the pavements with bleach and I watched on tv and thought “oh bugger, they know something about this that we don’t.”

Not saying they made it. I do think they were studying it or perhaps mutating it in the lab, and I do think as a result they know things about it that we don’t, and that it is for this reason that they are trying so hard for 100% elimination of the virus.

Hopefully I’m wrong.

Regarding the Chinese government: they didn't know about the outbreak until it was too late. My recollection is that the Wuhan municipal authority tried to hush it up from Beijing.

A bit like the Chernobyl disaster, I understand there is a shoot the messenger culture in Chinese governance and no one wanted to be the one who broke the bad news.

I read elsewhere that due to a culture of secrecy Beijing often simply doesn't know a lot of what goes on in the provinces. China is also, after all, an enormous country with a huge population.

It wouldn't surprise me if what looks like a Beijing cover up was actually much lower down, ie, in Wuhan, but Beijing didn't want to admit this and lose face.

Bit of a tangent, but I’m also interested to know why China is still pursuing a taxing “zero covid” strategy when the rest of the world has a “living with covid” strategy.

Many other countries - particularly in East Asia aren't pursuing the 'live with it' policy that the Westminster government is. Look at the death rate and total number of deaths for Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Vietnam, Thailand, Hong Kong, etc. Australia and New Zealand too.

Their version of live with it literally means trying to live with it, as in taking mitigation measures to reduce the risk of death or disability.

The English 'live with it' actually means many (Other People) dying or becoming long term disabled with it.

Perhaps it's the concern over Long COVID (including the financial impact) that is motivating China to deviate from our approach?

Apparently we're facing a potential tsunami of diabetes in the coming years. Not only because of delayed diagnosis and/or health issues/hereditary. Research is suggesting that 1 in 20 recovered Covid patients go on to be diagnosed with diabetes. Something to do with the effects of Covid infection.

For example, unlike the UK, many countries have mandatory mask wearing in public spaces, as part of their living with it strategy. That's because masks help people literally live (as opposed to die) with it.

www.health-ni.gov.uk/news/public-health-measures-effective-reducing-spread-covid-19

A separate global study highlights mask-wearing as the single most effective public health measure at tackling Covid. The study, which has been published in the British Medical Journal, analysed data from over 70 individual studies undertaken in USA, Africa, Australia, Europe, South America, Asia and the Middle East.

Researchers from Monash University in Australia found that the studies indicated a 53 per cent reduction in new COVID-19 cases from wearing face masks.

The physical versus the psychological is interesting. Both when I had covid and with the second jab I felt out of control in a way that I never have with illness before. I did feel quite different and I can’t really explain it. It was shortlived (especially with the jab reaction). I could rationalise it with the illness that it could have been stress/worry etc but I had the same loss of control feeling with the second jab when I hadn’t at all with the first one.

@Skysblue
It reminds me of at the beginning of the pandemic, when the Chinese government were saying “there is no evidence of human to human transmission” yet they were also spraying the pavements with bleach and I watched on tv and thought “oh bugger, they know something about this that we don’t.”

Why would bleaching surfaces lead you to think this? At the time they thought transmission was from human contact with surfaces that had the virus. Human to human transmission means what it says...human direct to human nothing in between. No surfaces. Your Logic makes no sense whatsoever.