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To ask what’s the most overrated restaurant you’ve eaten at?

588 replies

Hairbrush123 · 19/11/2021 11:15

I think for me, it’s a restaurant called “Tattu”. They’re dotted all around the UK and was so excited to try it but the food was so average yet they charge £100+ for two people based on a starter and main HmmConfused. Everyone who I know has been there absolutely loved it so maybe it’s just DP & I!

What’s the most overrated restaurant you’ve been to?

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wheresmyshoe · 20/11/2021 21:39

Food distinctly average!!!!

MissDollyMix · 20/11/2021 21:51

Star inn the city in York. I’ve always wanted to try the original at Harome but been to the York one twice and apart from the lovely riverside position, it’s horrendously overpriced average food with very slow (although pleasant) service.

ItIsMyName · 20/11/2021 22:21

Ronnie Scott’s, Soho. Mediocre food and lacklustre service. I needed a spoon to eat the mushroom tart served to me.

WhenWillISleepThroughTheNight · 20/11/2021 22:34

Dans le noir.

I also ate at the fat duck but was only about 18 so I think I was just a bit young.

MrsHamlet · 20/11/2021 22:39

The fat duck.

It was an experience but I wouldn't go back.

SW1amp · 20/11/2021 22:41

@ItIsMyName

Ronnie Scott’s, Soho. Mediocre food and lacklustre service. I needed a spoon to eat the mushroom tart served to me.
Ronnie Scott’s isn’t a restaurant though

It’s a jazz club that has to serve some food as a condition of its licence

You’d be mental to go there with expectations of a brilliant meal!

Davros · 20/11/2021 22:52

Honey & Co. Hated everything about it
Marcus Wareing's Tredwells. Actually terrible. I see it's permanently closed, I'm not surprised
Bob Bob City. Terrible but nice staff

Pinetreesfall · 20/11/2021 23:07

Urgh a few...Those well known ones in Bray are so disappointing. Especially the one that charges service charges just for drinks to be passed over the bar. Confused It got cheaper when I dated one of the chefs though ha!

Alan Ducasse at the Dorch - food was cold. I used to work for the group so it was free (which made it bearable) but still urgh.

However Cote in Windsor takes the biscuit for both mediocre food and asking me why I didn't want a further alcoholic drink and then a liquor coffee when I had already told them I was the driver. The head waitress basically turned round and told me it would be fine if I drank 3x drinks and drove and it would be ok anyway as everyone does it. I was literally open mouthed. Now I boycott all Cote restaurants in protest of that one incident!

verymiddleaged · 20/11/2021 23:10

Honey & Co. Hated everything about it

Oh no. I love their cook books. It was on my list when we visit London.

WheelieBinPrincess · 20/11/2021 23:15

You don’t go to Ronnie Scott’s for the food Shock

I did have an exceptional espresso martini there actually.

ItIsMyName · 20/11/2021 23:26

Ronnie Scott’s - no I didn’t expect brilliant food but edible would have been nice!

VetOnCall · 20/11/2021 23:31

Makars in Edinburgh - it's a 'gourmet mash bar' and is rated #2 out of all the restaurants in Edinburgh on Trip Advisor but we didn't have a good experience. Very indifferent service, dirty water glasses and the sausages I ordered were burnt to the point of being inedible. I'm not generally one for sending food back but in this case I had to. By the time I got another plate back a good 15 minutes later DP had had to eat his because it would have been stone cold otherwise. The food overall was average even for what it was. We realised later that at least part of the reason behind the TA thing might be that the owner posts really rude, ranting "how dare you, you're an idiot anyway!!" responses to pretty much everyone who gives them a poor review; I'm half expecting him to pop up on here now and have a go at me 😄

KillingMeDeftly · 20/11/2021 23:39

A vegetarian friend went to Le Manoir aux Quat Saisons and the only veggie main course on the menu was a cauliflower dish. For £80. She said it was nice but surely even the most spectacular cauliflower isn't worth £80??

Malibuismysecrethome · 21/11/2021 06:03

£80 for a cauliflower. I would have walked out again, it can’t have been much fun for your friend unless she liked the drinks.

Boobahs · 21/11/2021 06:55

Won't mean much to non-locals, but I live near to Mad O'Rourkes pie factory which people around here rave about. I've been 4 times now and wasn't impressed with it.

HundredMilesAnHour · 21/11/2021 19:02

I think once private equity firms buy up restaurants and (over) expand them to the degree the market is over-saturated, that's when they quality rapidly declines.

@sansucre is totally right. It's the selling-out/expansion/franchises that kills the quality of what were once upon a time great restaurants.

It's happened with The Ivy when ownership changed and suddenly now almost every town has an Ivy. I still go to The "real" Ivy and always have excellent service, with decent (but not outstanding) food but it's not the place it used to be. These days we always get invited upstairs to the private members' club. That would never have happened in the old days when there were far more important people dining to invite us peasants up there. Wink The days of chatting to celebs in the Ladies are over. I'm sure Victoria Beckham will be relieved. Wink No more 3 month waits (if you're lucky!) for a table on a Fri night. Sad really.

Same with Wagamama. I remember the early days of queuing for hours down Lexington St to get a table, when there were only 2 branches, and the food was fabulous and the communal seating quite ground-breaking. Now it's generic pan-Asian, bland and full of screaming kids.

Also happened with Gaucho. The original Swallow St branch (when it was the only one!) was wonderful. It really raised the bar for steak in London. My friends and I spent a lot of time and money in there. Then they expanded and it became a race to the bottom. Looks increasingly like Hawksmoor is going the same way. Desperately hoping this doesn't happen with Goodman and Blacklock but....

And Patisserie Valerie, what a downfall....so sad that now they sell their rubber cakes in Sainsbury's when decades ago they were so special and one of 'the' places in London to go for tea and cake.

I also remember having a birthday dinner in Fifteen. When there was only the Hoxton one and Jamie still did some cooking there. The food was excellent, which was just as well as it took us a good few months wait to get a table.

Of course is all so last century. Blush Wink

I rarely have a bad meal out these days but that's because I refuse to go to chains and stick to local independents as much as possible. However, when lockdown lifted last summer, we did make the mistake of going to The Wolseley for a late lunch/early dinner after being at the National Gallery. Tables were still distanced so it was lovely and private, service was fab, food was pretty poor. And I had the worst scones I've ever had in my life. They must have been almost as old as me. Terrible!

Also had rubbish food at anywhere owned by Drake & Morgan (especially The Folly at Monument). Same with Carluccio's (they used to be so good when Antonio was still alive and on Neal St) and Pizza Express (although the Hong Kong Soho branch rocks!).

And finally a dreadful, slow meal at The Marksman in Hackney. Rave reviews from people, God knows why. Service was appalling but also invisible for much of the time. Staff lied to us about running out of dessert. It was a small menu but most things weren't available. Took 3.5 hours to eat a 3 course meal, including 1 hour to be served drinks/water!! Never again. And they're not even a bloody chain.

Siriisatwat · 21/11/2021 19:23

The days of chatting to celebs in the Ladies are over.

@HundredMilesAnHour I once had a totally bizarre conversation with Geri Halliwell in the Ivy where she stopped me and said I looked just like someone she knew and would not stop going on about it, even trying to delve into my family tree as we MUST be related somehow 😂

Another Richard E Grant stepped on my little toe as he walked to his table and it felt like he broke it - he sent over a very expensive bottle of wine to my table to apologise.

And yes, the month long waiting lists! Those were good old days at the Ivy (still never rated the food much though).

UniversalAunt · 21/11/2021 19:23

Oh @HundredMilesAnHour, sliding doors, sliding doors.
Our gastropaths have crossed many a time unknown.

Patisserie Valerie in Old Compton Street, such a treat way back when, way way back when. I’ve not been into central London since first flush of Covid. Fingers crossed MaisonB will still be open.

How JamieO piggy-backed off Antonio Carluccio’s talent, work & reputation. Meh!

Siriisatwat · 21/11/2021 19:23

*another time

sansucre · 21/11/2021 20:37

@UniversalAunt Pleased to report Maison Bertaux is still very much open - I bought some of their chocolate creme patisserie filled choux and a slice of their wonderful cheesecake just the other day!

I miss the glory days of Patisserie Valerie. Such a sad end to a wonderful place I used to spend time with my mother.

Although not really a chain, but the quality at both Ottolenghi and Hummingbird Bakery has declined enormously. I have frequented both since their first stores on Ledbury Road and Portobello respectively. I ordered some cake from Hummingbird recently and had to complain as they were claggy and tasteless (and got a refund as a result).

Never been to Goodman or Gaucho (the latter never appealed) as I prefer Hawksmoor but I might give the former a try as I find Hawksmoor has lost some of its magic recently. Love Blacklock, I think it's still small enough an 'empire' that they will retain their quality.

I eat across the Corbain & King empire regularly. Touch wood, I've yet to experience an issue. I will probably be heartbroken if I do. Ditto J. Sheekey too.

To return to Bryon, they were genuinely a breath of fresh air and it is such a shame to see their decline.

Lastly, Cote, when they first opened were great, now, just awful. I had to stop going as every time I did, I had to send my food back (for a variety of reasons including over-cooked or stone cold) and was embarrassed by not being charged. It was easier to go elsewhere as when I go out to eat, I actually want something cooked properly and not cold! Good creme caramel though. I sometimes go just for that.

HundredMilesAnHour · 21/11/2021 21:05

That's so true about Cote. I'm a sucker for French brasserie food (I used to live in France) but Cote has turned it into boil-in-a-bag 'cuisine'. And don't get me started on Cafe Rouge. They should have been killed off 20 years ago.

Totally agree about Hummingbird. I tend to go to the Spitalfields one now. They weren't amazing pre-Covid but now they seem to have lost the plot completely. They're still only doing takeaway but they have a very limited supply of cakes and the staff are utterly miserable. No idea how they're still going to be frank.

Blacklock at Home kept me semi-sane during lockdown. I really hope they don't over-expand. And Hawksmoor at Home provided all the food for my outdoor birthday dinner of 6 (straight out of lockdown).

Gail's Bakery seem to be starting on a downward trajectory also...or maybe I am just spoiled with too much strong competition locally that Gail's suddenly seem very average indeed.

sansucre · 21/11/2021 21:09

@HundredMilesAnHour Sadly, it was the Spitalfields branch I had to complain about. Will stick to Maison Bertaux and Jolene (on Redchurch Street and Newington Green).

Agree re. Gail's too. I think the rot started to set in around 2017.

sansucre · 21/11/2021 21:11

Also, yy to Cafe Rouge. It was a mainstay when I was in my late teens. Should have have been put out of its misery long ago.

HundredMilesAnHour · 21/11/2021 21:38

[quote sansucre]@HundredMilesAnHour Sadly, it was the Spitalfields branch I had to complain about. Will stick to Maison Bertaux and Jolene (on Redchurch Street and Newington Green).

Agree re. Gail's too. I think the rot started to set in around 2017.[/quote]
Ooh I'd forgotten that Jolene had opened on Redchurch St. Thank you!!! I got so sick of the tourists (plus Albion's deli went downhill - and Tracey Neuls closed) that I started avoiding Redchurch St and cutting north/south of it. Duh! Stupid of me. Jolene this week it is!! (and saves me schlepping to Violet).

sansucre · 21/11/2021 21:41

Gosh yes, Albion has been terrible for ages. Jolene is quite limited in their choices, particularly compared to their Newington Green branch but the quality is still superb. Cakes don't appear until after 11:00am, I often make the mistake of going too earlier and having to make do with one of the amazing pain au chocolat (which isn't really a hardship anyway)!

Violet's too far out for me, sadly.