in being upset (pissed off) with parents who bring their obviuosly sick children to the nursery?

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Shouldnt a child that is coughing his guts out be home? Or with rosy red feverish cheeks? Why do some parents think it is ok to lumber nursery staff with children so ill they need carrying around all the time? Why do they think it ok to keep passing on the germs to other peoples children?

Well, I'm a SAHM and I can't be doing with germ avoidance. I have never once been worried about it. It's part of being a parent fgs.
The precious behaviour of some people on here makes me wince.

Well Kitty, if you are a sahm, you have dont really have this worry, do you?

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Oh FFS at all the flouncers! I don't think there is a single post on here saying snotty children with a cold shouldn't be at nursery. Toddlers are snotty and have colds all the time - we all know that.

But how can you possibly argue that it is ok for your child to go to nursery when sick with, say a temperature, or d&v? It is just not possible to argue for it. It is indefensible (oh and before I'm jumped on, am talking about children who are unwell when dropped off, not who develop illness during the day - that's happened to all of us too).

Thank you DaphneHarvey, I dont know how many times I have said that I dont "mind" colds, as they are impossible to avoid.

It is fevers, ear / chest infections, D&Vs' tonsillitus, CP, Hand Foot Mouth, etc. Illnesses that requires medical attention, often antibiotics, where guidelines say (or should say) that the child can return when they have been on antibiotics for at least 48 hours and are no longer infectious.

I cant believe people think it is ok to send sick kids to the nursery and accuse me off all sorts, including lack of empathy for being against this...Sad state of affairs.

I hear what you are saying Quintessential. There appears to be some posters here who choose to go off on a huffy about something that has not been said ... can only assume they love a bit of drama on a Saturday night and aren't getting satisfaction from the telly!

actually the infectious control policy states there is no recommended period to stay off nursery/school for hand foot and mouth disease or ear/chest infections.

see here

there is one for bronchitus though... and i personally think hand foot and mouth should have one. no idea why there isn't.

My sons nursery has one such policy. It seems it is not really followed.

lennygirl, it's funny, but up until very recently, raising kids at home was considered to be a job in its own right.

I still consider it to be a job in its own right.

And whatever your choices, if your kid's ill, your kid comes first. It comes before your job.

If someone is prepared to put a sick kid in nursery for the day so they can go do their 'job', then I think it's a rather sad indictment on society.

tonsilitis was another one. apparently once you have full blown tonsilitis it's not contagious.

Exactly, when the child is sick, it needs to be home in familiar surroundings and rest, and be taken care of by familiar faces who can give them the one on they need.

Exactly, when the child is sick, it needs to be home in familiar surroundings and rest, and be taken care of by familiar faces who can give them the one on they need.

I think it's interesting, as both a working mum & a nursery owner that everyone is saying what THEy think & feel & what THEY are/aren't allowed to do re work but what about the little ones at the heart of all this?? (forgive me I haven't read the whole thread)

I am full of sympathy for those who have jobs that have unsympathetic bosses & I will always try & keep a child going with lots of cuddles & Calpol if that's what it takes to get them through the day. BUT there gets to a point where ,regardless of whether the child is infectious or not, he/she needs to be at home/grandmas /an other quiet spot as they are suffering & yes they might perk up once home but it's because they are at home & not in a nursery that they feel better.

When anyone comes to look round our nursery I always discuss the sickness policy with them and say they MUST accept that there will be times when we refuse to have a child in or call them to take them homeFOR THE CHILD SAKE. If that is the case & they can't leave work then they need to have a back-up plan/person to help out.

I do have to say though you can't tell where children pick up these bugs so you can't blame any one child, whether it's in Tesco or nursery the little blighters are swapping germs all the times & it does help their immune systems!

Agree with bossybritches in that feel very sad at the idea of sick children being in a nursery when what they really need is to be snuggled up in a duvet and dozing.
And by sick, I mean temperature/shivers/D&V. Not a cold (unless it is constant streaming snot all over the place).

I read somewhere that the common cold bug is in your body 5 days before you get any symptoms. It is probably passed around the whole of the nursery before anybody even knows about it!

This is why I use a Childminder who doesn't give a hoot if they are full of cold/coughs, because all of the kids there have them at one point (Maximum 6) When you have maybe 25 children in a nursery, you have to stop 1 child coming in with this to an extent.

As a working mum, I have to say that if I took time off everytime one of my children had a cold, I would be a stay at home mum because I wouldn't have a job.

Do I feel guily, a bit, yes, who wouldn't want to lie in bed with a cold?

But in this age, I have to work. Actually no I don't. I could give up work, get repossessed and go on benefits.

But I don't want to.

But I wasn't necessarily thinking of the issue of contagion. More that if you are ill, is not particularly comforting to be ill in a nursery/out of home setting. Is pretty miserable (am thinking to times I felt lousy at school, where had been fine in morning, but by lunchtime, shivering and feverish).

And agree with Wifi on the childminder issue - my ds goes to a childminder who is fine with him being cold-y. She has duvets and sofas and quiet corners. But I have several times felt that more than anything he needed to be at home, and kept him away regardless. However, I work flexibly and so I will admit that there isn't an overriding need for him to be at CM or dd to be at pre-school if they are poorly, for which I thank my lucky stars.

Mumzyof2, WIFI - this thread is not about children with common colds.

"Do I feel guily, a bit, yes, who wouldn't want to lie in bed with a cold?

But in this age, I have to work. Actually no I don't. I could give up work, get repossessed and go on benefits.

But I don't want to"

What is the relevance of this ?????? Have you got it worse than the rest of us WIFI?

i thought keeping a child wrapped up warm to avoid getting colds was an old wives' tale?

my ds2 caught a cold/chest infection at nursery when i was in hospital having dd2.he passed it on to her and she ended up in intensive care with bronchiolitis.

not once has it occured to me to be annoyed that ds2 caught the chest infection from nursery.thats just life.

at "using" childminder.