Channel crossings

[Tevion28]

Whats your thoughts on this are these people really desperate fleeing worn torn countries do you feel sorry for them etc

According to government statistics in 2020 there were 6 asylum applications for every 10,000 people living in the UK. Across the EU as a whole there were 11 asylum applications for every 10,000 people. The UK is ranked 14th when comparing numbers taken by other EU countries.

@FuckingPissedOff, which "migrations have resulted in war in Britain", please?

My concern is this exactly WHO is entering the country cannot be known? I do not know the process but is it a possibility that those who wish the UK harm can slide under the barrier?

Also - and this will no doubt be contentious - what do we want from our new citizens? What do they want? Do they want to integrate? Do we want them to? Will they be accepted? Face discrimination? I don't think going from country A to country B (via C and D) is that straight forward.

It's also untrue they have to seek asylum in the first safe country.

Will they be accepted? Well I would hope so seeing as struggling to rebuild your life in a different country must be difficult enough without racism and ignorance.

@kaztastic

Is France war torn?

The camps in France are horrific. Worse than Darfur. Many of these people have English as a second language - giving them the hope of forming some sort of settled existence

[quote LakieLady]@FuckingPissedOff, which "migrations have resulted in war in Britain", please?[/quote]
I was thinking of the last period in history that saw these levels of migration in western Europe, the post-Roman collapse. The migrations that brought the various peoples that formed the new 'anglo-saxon' kingdoms, the Viking period, and a last gasp from the Viking diaspora, 1066. War, more war and power struggles for 600 years. There were unrecorded arguments between settlers from Ireland and what's now northern Scotland in the same period and pressure from Vikings again. There may or may not have been earlier invasions that brought the ancestors of the peoples now called Celtic here - there must have been a few replacements actually, as the first inhabitants post-ice age were apparently of different genetic stock. I don't think the later migration of Genghis Khan affected us that much.

@CorrBlimeyGG

Before anyone says they're here to claim benefits, they get £37 a week. If they were doing it solely for the money, other European countries are far more generous.

So why do they come then, if we are so dreadfully mean to them? As other posters have asked, why the desperation to get to the UK, and why do they pass through over a dozen other (safe) countries to get here?

Most don’t pass over other countries to get here.

@Tevion28

I know fucking We understand why they want to come here and know conditions in thier home country are not ideal but we are a very small country compared to alot how can we take in so many

We don't take in 'so many' - such lazy assumptions. 85% of asylum seekers are settled in developing countries.

I am astounded that people believe the tabloid fear mongering.

I agree that many people are impoverished in this country - but resettling refugees is not compounding this issue - it's mere deflection from our corrupt government who are haemorrhaging money to their cronies for useless vanity projects. You are getting angry at the wrong people.

If the UK is 14th in the list of total asylum seekers taken in, where do we rank in terms of size of country and number of people per square mile (population density) as surely that is the relevant thing to compare.

Allycott possibly. They don't disclose that information with the scheme. Sometimes occupants chose to disclose it to us, but that's their choice. We've had asylum seekers in the past but it's rare because really they should be in home office provided accomodation until the case is heard. Once they've received a (favourable) decision they have to leave that accomodation and come under whatever LA homeless team they're currently residing in and get put in temp accomodation, which has included us. There's obviously an occasional AS who ends up street homeless for a time though for various reasons.

Having even more impoverished people here really isn't helping

What about paying for pensions for example

NHS is on it's knees

Just ridiculous

@tangone

Will they be accepted? Well I would hope so seeing as struggling to rebuild your life in a different country must be difficult enough without racism and ignorance.

After what happened with the asylum-seeker-turned-terrorist the other day, (with the taxi blowing up,) you can hardly blame people for being 'racist.' And there is nothing ignorant about people not wanting 'asylum seekers' in the UK.

We have enough of our own issues to deal with, and enough people on and below the poverty line, with working people needing to go to food banks. People have a right to be fucked off with the illegal asylum seekers coming to the UK, without being labelled 'racist' and 'ignorant.

I'm so fucking sick of the woke shit I read regarding this, and how people are shut down by the left, if they DARE say anything negative about asylum seekers. People are entitled to their opinions, and they are as valid as the opinions of the woke. So anyone armed with racist/ bigot/ daily mail reader/karen comments can just bore off

We had 18m fewer people here when I was born and I preferred it. Obviously many of the extra 18m are from many of us on here having babies of course but I would like us to try to revert to a lower population. The EU certainly has the right idea as does the UK in supporting Poland in protecting the borders of the EU at the moment. It cannot be right that we encourage human traffickers and allow those rich enough to pay for $US4000 packages to close to Poland to have priority over access to the UK or allow anyone to stay in the UK who happens to pretend to convert to Christianity.

@woodhill

Why is Poland allowed to sure up its borders but we aren't

I think it is dangerous for the UK that so many young men are arriving here. It feels like an invasion

This. ^ Funny how it's always young men as well. No women, no children, no older folk. The apologists will tell us that they are coming to settle, and then bring their family over later. I call BS.

Yep, importing an army

Also how do they treat christians and Jews in these countries - very telling

And some UK residents are selling their homes for care in later life. What are the new citizens going to contribute for their welfare support?

Some will be skilled workers and professionals. Much cheaper for the UK to support an asylum seeker who is a medical professional than to train a doctor for example.

@Allycott

And some UK residents are selling their homes for care in later life. What are the new citizens going to contribute for their welfare support?

Well, lots of them work in care jobs.

@tangone

Some will be skilled workers and professionals.

None of the ones coming across on the boats, across the English channel will be ''skilled workers and professionals.' You are deluded if you think this.

@Allycott

And some UK residents are selling their homes for care in later life. What are the new citizens going to contribute for their welfare support?

And they tend on the whole to come from cultures who care for their own elderly. Even non - blood relatives. I work in an area with an overwhelming number of BAME population, and can count on 1 hand the number of BAME patients I've placed in care homes.

[quote LittleDandelionClock]@tangone

Some will be skilled workers and professionals.

None of the ones coming across on the boats, across the English channel will be ''skilled workers and professionals.' You are deluded if you think this.[/quote]
You're wrong.

Teachers, nurses, skilled tradesmen. Even lawyers and Drs. They need to jump through hoop after hoop to get registration here, but they are skilled non the less.

www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/information/refugee-asylum-facts/the-truth-about-asylum/

The facts - basically the U.K. doesn’t take it’s fair share of those fleeing their own country.

@woodhill

Having even more impoverished people here really isn't helping

What about paying for pensions for example

NHS is on it's knees

Just ridiculous

None of that is caused by impoverished people though.