Channel crossings

[Tevion28]

Whats your thoughts on this are these people really desperate fleeing worn torn countries do you feel sorry for them etc

Poppapopadoms, completely agree and Miss minutes 24, no-one is suggesting 'taking entire populations'

… if we want to stop illegal migration, maybe we should stop selling weapons to totalitarian regimes, that terrorise their own citizens, and the citizens of neighbouring countries.
..want to stop asylum, let’s start taking a stronger stand on human rights , and stop doing business with countries who abuse women, kill political dissidents, and punish the LGBTQ community
…want to stop human traffickers, and people coming over on boats.. have a properly managed scheme, where we take a fair share on displaced people.

This country makes billions trading with the regimes that these people are fleeing, we accept misery so we make our money. If it comes back and bites us on the arse, it’s all our own fault.

Does anyone know if asylum seekers are subject to covid checks? Just thinking about the new variant. Actually even before this - do the isolate?

I am not sure. I believe the people we airlifted from Afghanistan were put in hotels for 3 weeks due to covid and they were not required the £3k a family a British person who had been away and had to quarantine from a red country at that time had to pay which felt a bit annoying as some of them were fairly rich journalists and lawyers.

I reckon it would only take redirecting two or three vessels to somewhere other than the British Isles (so never allowing them to set foot here illegally) to stop this madness once and for all. No drama, no loss of lives and no wailing from human rights 'organisations'. Publicise this new hard stance to death in all possible media and the attempted crossings will stop once the penny drops they will not be allowed in. It just requires authorities to grow a back bone. Stop talking to France as they don't seem to be interested, quite the opposite.

You wouldn't be allowed to board a plane to travel anywhere in the world without the proper visas and paperwork, this should be no different.

Of course I feel sorry for people so desperate that they’d risk drowning in the freezing Channel. How could you not? You can still wonder why they’re taking that final risk while
Feeling sorry for them.
The
Conditions in the French camps are appalling according to every report I’ve read.

This is categorically not true Juno.
And you simply don’t understand our system of taxation if you think it is.
You do yourself, and this cause no favours by promulgating false narratives around the state of British infrastructure either.

The NHS is in a bad way, we do have a shortage of housing, school spots, care services etc!

Should it be this way in one of the richest countries in the world? No.

But it is, and until we change how we run this country and spend our taxpayers money, we have a problem with how to try and care for these people.

And I’m all for supporting genuine AS as well and think we can, and should do more. But it requires top down change.

Last post didn’t quite Juno’s saying more tax is paid by incoming AS/economic migrants etc than millionaires.

Also your post re we have room, NHS can cope etc… simply not true, as it currently stands!

@ExtraOnion

… if we want to stop illegal migration, maybe we should stop selling weapons to totalitarian regimes, that terrorise their own citizens, and the citizens of neighbouring countries. ..want to stop asylum, let’s start taking a stronger stand on human rights , and stop doing business with countries who abuse women, kill political dissidents, and punish the LGBTQ community …want to stop human traffickers, and people coming over on boats.. have a properly managed scheme, where we take a fair share on displaced people.

This country makes billions trading with the regimes that these people are fleeing, we accept misery so we make our money. If it comes back and bites us on the arse, it’s all our own fault.

Couldn’t agree more!

@mustlovegin

I reckon it would only take redirecting two or three vessels to somewhere other than the British Isles (so never allowing them to set foot here illegally) to stop this madness once and for all. No drama, no loss of lives and no wailing from human rights 'organisations'. Publicise this new hard stance to death in all possible media and the attempted crossings will stop once the penny drops they will not be allowed in. It just requires authorities to grow a back bone. Stop talking to France as they don't seem to be interested, quite the opposite.

You wouldn't be allowed to board a plane to travel anywhere in the world without the proper visas and paperwork, this should be no different.

No drama or wailing? Are you serious? Look at the outcry when Australia tried a similar tactic. You’d be bonkers to think there wouldn’t be a huge amount of opposition.

You’d be bonkers to think there wouldn’t be a huge amount of opposition

On what grounds will they 'oppose'? We are a sovereign state and they will have to accept it

redirect where

@mustlovegin

You’d be bonkers to think there wouldn’t be a huge amount of opposition

On what grounds will they 'oppose'? We are a sovereign state and they will have to accept it

Is that you Boris?