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Don’t like/want in laws visiting. Aibu??

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NameChanged15729 · 14/11/2021 11:17

This is a bit of a vent and will be long!!

As per the title, I really don’t want my in laws visiting and it’s causing rows with dh. I can’t work out whether I should just suck it up on the few occasions they visit or say I really don’t want it at the moment.

Back story is they live around 2 hours away so they visit once every three months or so. This means that when they make the journey they are here all day. All sodding day. With me making them a constant stream of hot drinks and feeding them while they basically make a mess for me to sort out when they leave. I could tolerate this but after recent events I just don’t want to anymore. I’m 30 weeks pregnant, feel ill and tired most of the time and I just don’t see why I should.

Dh’s dad died when husband was a teenager and his mum remarried her long term partner a few years ago. Not one of mil’s children like this man. She hasn’t seen her youngest son for over a year because he won’t visit due to her husband. He doesn’t like mil’s adult daughter still living with them and makes sil’s life difficult because she hasn’t been able to move out yet for personal reasons. There was a period in the summer where sil discovered he had been using her toothbrush to clean shit off the toilet. Just to add, I get on with sil and she is welcome here! The children love her and she’s brilliant with them. I haven’t got anything bad to say about her.

Both of my children have autism. One is non verbal and developmentally delayed, the other is developmentally delayed but verbal and in mainstream school with support. We visited them in the summer while we were on holiday near there home. Mil had promised ds that she would help him build a craft kit... all good. When we get there ds excitedly gets it out only for sfil to tell ds he doesn’t want that open in his house. Dh has a word with mil about how excited he’s been about it (it’s not a messy craft, it’s a kit where you put a spinosaurus together) and she agrees. Sfil clearly annoyed (likes to believe he’s the man of the house and what he says goes) then proceeds to basically take the piss out of ds not being able to say spinosaurus correctly because he has a speech impediment caused by his autism. Both me and dh are furious and decide to get some air and go for a walk inviting mil but making it clear we want some space from her husband. She joins us for the walk only for sfil to appear 30 minutes later. Clearly she has told him to come meet us. I was already somewhat annoyed because we were supposed to be staying for dinner but there are very few foods the kids will eat. Dh had spoken to her in advance asking if she’d pick up some of the particular chips they will both eat, turkey dinosaurs and strawberries. She did not because surely they can just eat something from the freezer. I provide food for them every time they visit and make sure it’s food that they will eat as they are both fussy. I was quite offended by this.

Recently I’ve discovered that every time they visit sfil badmouths our parenting all the way home. Criticising us for the fact our children still use a dummy at bed time, that they won’t eat ‘normal’ foods, etc, and basically thinks it’s our fault and they are just spoilt. He won’t let mil visit on her own because he is unable to cook and she needs to be with him to provide his meals. When they do visit he sits on his arse and falls asleep on the sofa for the duration. Only waking up to tell ds off for still needing a dummy ‘like a baby’.

It’s so difficult because mil isn’t a bad person as such. She’s a pushover and will agree to whatever her husband wants for an easy life. It’s like he’s ground everything out of her and she no longer has opinions or wants of her own. The atmosphere in the house is awful. Sfil strops and causes an atmosphere if anybody other than him is in the living room because he’s the man and that’s his room. He strops if he isn’t in control of the television, believes the women of the house should run around after him. It’s awful. Dh took ds to visit them the summer of 2020 when lockdown was briefly lifted to be informed when he arrived that they weren’t allowed in the house and would have to stay in the garden. If he had known that he wouldn’t have bothered!

They are due a visit and I just can’t face it. They also come down every Boxing Day which I will just have to accept for the sake of family harmony. What I’m really dreading is them visiting once the baby is born. Last time they stayed for hours, didn’t lift a finger and managed to grind play doh into the newly laid carpet. The play doh was unopened for very good reason! I don’t know what possessed them!

Dh knows they are beyond useless, will admit that it massively upsets him that his own mother won’t offer any practical help and is passive in the face of sfil but insists it’s still his mother. I know realistically I can’t not let them come down as much as I’d love to. I’m just worried that sfil is going to get worse as the kids get older and the autism isn’t ‘cured’! HmmAngry
I also don’t want to ban mil as such because she really isn’t a bad person. She just will not stand up to her husband.

I guess I’m asking Aibu to feel this way? What do I do!?

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DoctorWhoTardis · 14/11/2021 11:18

I would get DH to say MIL is welcome but her husband isn't then leave it up to her.

girlmom21 · 14/11/2021 11:22

I would have cut all ties with SFIL when he mocked your child, but I don't see the issue with MIL visiting alone? Other than the fact he probably won't let her because he sounds like a massive twat.

Chamomileteaplease · 14/11/2021 11:23

What would happen if you said that MIL was invited to your house (at a specific time) but that sfil wasn't invited? It doesn't matter about pissing off the sfil but would your MIL come?

Personally I would never ever go to their house.

But thinking about it, I really wouldn't allow such a bully of my own children into my own house.

Consider it a priority for you and your dh to get this issue sorted. Try to agree to just not allow the man to visit! You may even manage to have a nice time with the MIL and your dh may see a different side to her if she is on her own.

Laserbird16 · 14/11/2021 11:24

I'm sorry, this guy cleaned a toilet with his step daughters toothbrush? He sounds like a sadist.

I wouldn't give him a moment of my time. MIL has made her choices and if she can't come without him then over to DP to arrange visits to his mum without you.

Does SIL want to come over? She must be destroyed living with this bastard

TipseyTorvey · 14/11/2021 11:26

My DS is autistic. His home is his haven, no-one would be allowed over this threshold that insulted him. The rest of sfils behaviour is bad enough and he sounds like a thoroughly unpleasant man but mocking an autistic child would have been end of my ever having him in the house again. Put your foot down and end this engagement. Let DH see his mother separately, keep your children and home happy and drama free.

Pumpkinsonparade · 14/11/2021 11:26

Let dh meet her for a coffee. Would he take the dc to soft play and meet her there? You get to stay home. The day I stopped visiting ils and being at work when they visited was bloody soul saving!
Yanbu to not want a relationship with them. Luckily no law says you have to! Your dh needs to realise the wellbeing of you and your dc prioritises her wants to see the dc with such a twat present.

Sceptre86 · 14/11/2021 11:28

I would tell your dh to get a grip personally. His mother comes with sfil who is an arse and shouldn't be welcome in your home with the way he dares speak about your parenting and even worse belittles your children. If that means mil gets cut off then so be it , what does she bring to your life anyway? Her poor choice in partner is something she clearly doesn't see or she too is an arse as quite frankly like often goes for like. I wouldn't want to be around her if she can't stand up for her own daughter or grandchildren. She isn't worth the effort. I would be making it clear that they aren't welcome to your home and if your dh has a problem with it then maybe he should move in with them too.

My lovely mum always makes sure there is stuff in that my kids enjoy eating when they go to stay, she even cooks their favourite dishes. I always offer to cook for them but she never let's me as she enjoys it. It is quite sad to me that your mil won't do the same, especially when she knows that their are fewer things your children enjoy eating.

KathleenWho · 14/11/2021 11:30

You'll end up stopping him coming anyway because no reasonable person would put up with their children being treated like that so put an end to it now. Don't subject your children to this man one more time
Tell MIL you will see her and she can make the decision. If she chooses him she isn't worth seeing as she doesn't have the children's interests at heart

KathleenWho · 14/11/2021 11:31

Let your DH visit on his own if MIL won't see you on her own

NameChanged15729 · 14/11/2021 11:31

Mil is welcome here on her own whenever she likes and we remind her of this regularly. She knows but she won’t come. She did once years ago when ds was a baby (he’s now 6) but from talking to sil and reading behind the lines sfil didn’t like it.
When we tell her she is welcome she talks like she wants to visit and seems excited but then just never gets back to us about arranging it.

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DoctorWhoTardis · 14/11/2021 11:36

@NameChanged15729

Mil is welcome here on her own whenever she likes and we remind her of this regularly. She knows but she won’t come. She did once years ago when ds was a baby (he’s now 6) but from talking to sil and reading behind the lines sfil didn’t like it. When we tell her she is welcome she talks like she wants to visit and seems excited but then just never gets back to us about arranging it.
I'd be slipping her the number for womens aid next time you see her. This isn't right.
saraclara · 14/11/2021 11:36

MIL should be welcome. A day every three months is nothing, really.

But absolutely it needs to be made clear that her partner is not welcome in your home, because of his bullying attitude to your DCs. You both need to stand up for your kids.

Which bit of this do you and your DH argue about? It seems that he's on the same page as you about the way he treats your DCs.

Can SIL bring MIL? Can she work on her to say that yes, SFIL can be left at home, and that she shouldn't be putting him ahead of her own flesh and blood?

ItsSnotFair · 14/11/2021 11:38

Bloody hell, he wouldn't set foot in my house again. I feel sorry for your MIL but all you can do is keep telling her she's welcome any time
Does she realise that her husbands behaviour is not healthy

Sunflowers095 · 14/11/2021 11:39

Why is your DH not making drinks and tidying up after his family? Why are you doing it?

Spanglemum · 14/11/2021 11:43

I think you need to make it clear to MIL that she is welcome but he husband is not. She's made choices and unfortunately there are consequences.

EverdeRose · 14/11/2021 11:46

I thought I'd bring coming here tellibgbyou go suck it up for the sake of family harmony.

But he is a vile man who mocked your child and will no longer be welcome in your home. MiL is a grown woman, if she doesn't come due to him then she's only herself to blame.

boreon · 14/11/2021 11:47

Why are you letting him in your house? Make it clear they are no longer welcome and in future your DH will be organising with him mum when you can pick her up and take her out for lunch on her own!

NameChanged15729 · 14/11/2021 11:49

sara the arguing is difficult because it’s not caused by disagreement as such. It really upsets dh that in his opinion his mum doesn’t care enough. That her want for a relationship with her grandchildren and also him doesn’t trump her desire to appease her husband. It’s also been tough having two children diagnosed with ASD. Particularly the youngest who is unlikely to ever live independently and I think he just really needed his mums support. Not so much practically but she won’t really talk about it. Just remains non committal.
We then end up arguing because he’d like it if I never mention it and just have it as the elephant in the room so he doesn’t have to confront it. I can’t ignore the fact that sfil mocked my child and that I feel in my gut it’s going to become worse.

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ObnoxiousFeminist · 14/11/2021 11:51

My Step Mother is like this, a total arsehole. She also kicks off if my Dad visits us alone, so he doesn’t do that any more. I can’t even phone him because she insists he put me on speakerphone. It’s a fucking nightmare and after 15 years of this bollocks, I finally cut ties with my Dad this summer.

JacquelineCarlyle · 14/11/2021 11:55

Op your job is to protect your child and this man certainly sounds like someone he needs to be protected from. My DCs are NT but if an adult family member made fun of them or made nasty spiteful comments then no way would they ever be allowed in my house again and nor would I go into their home.

Make sure your MIL knows that she is always welcome but her dickhead husband isn't. I appreciate that'll be hard for your DH but he'll have to live with that as otherwise he's allowing an adult to bully your DCs. He can visit them at theirs or meet them outside but your DCs should never be subjected to that bullying man ever again.

It's making my blood boil thinking about it. Your poor DS.

Maxiedog123 · 14/11/2021 12:06

I would not be allowing SFIL in my home due to his behaviour towards your children . I have a son with severe autism, and his home is his safe place, noone who is not accepting of him is welcome.
I would be telling DH DFIL is not welcome, either your MIL comes by herself /with your SIL or your husband sees her separately.

BungleandGeorge · 14/11/2021 12:08

It sounds like your MIL is in an abusive relationship. I don’t think it’s as simple as saying she’s putting her husband above him as there’s a lot of control etc going on. I don’t think your children have to put up with it but I think maybe your husband should do some research into how he could approach and support his mum.

coconutpie · 14/11/2021 12:09

YANBU. I would never be in SFIL company again. I can't believe he used his SDD's toothbrush to clean the toilet, what a disgusting rotten awful human being. And if MIL is ok with her husband treating her DD like that then she is just as bad. I would not trust him or her around your DC. I don't see any benefit in either of them having a relationship with your DC.

If you still want to have some sort of a relationship with MIL then you need to tell her that you will only allow her to visit and go NC with SFIL.

Cherrysoup · 14/11/2021 12:14

I can’t understand why you allow that arse into your home to insult your dc. Surely mil can come with sil? He wouldn’t be allowed near my kids after the first derogatory comment. Your dh can visit, you and the kids stay home. Sil comes whenever you want.

saraclara · 14/11/2021 12:17

How does SIL stand it? If she's living there, what does she see? Is she witnessing abuse, and if so how is she advising her mother?