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Don’t like/want in laws visiting. Aibu??

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NameChanged15729 · 14/11/2021 11:17

This is a bit of a vent and will be long!!

As per the title, I really don’t want my in laws visiting and it’s causing rows with dh. I can’t work out whether I should just suck it up on the few occasions they visit or say I really don’t want it at the moment.

Back story is they live around 2 hours away so they visit once every three months or so. This means that when they make the journey they are here all day. All sodding day. With me making them a constant stream of hot drinks and feeding them while they basically make a mess for me to sort out when they leave. I could tolerate this but after recent events I just don’t want to anymore. I’m 30 weeks pregnant, feel ill and tired most of the time and I just don’t see why I should.

Dh’s dad died when husband was a teenager and his mum remarried her long term partner a few years ago. Not one of mil’s children like this man. She hasn’t seen her youngest son for over a year because he won’t visit due to her husband. He doesn’t like mil’s adult daughter still living with them and makes sil’s life difficult because she hasn’t been able to move out yet for personal reasons. There was a period in the summer where sil discovered he had been using her toothbrush to clean shit off the toilet. Just to add, I get on with sil and she is welcome here! The children love her and she’s brilliant with them. I haven’t got anything bad to say about her.

Both of my children have autism. One is non verbal and developmentally delayed, the other is developmentally delayed but verbal and in mainstream school with support. We visited them in the summer while we were on holiday near there home. Mil had promised ds that she would help him build a craft kit... all good. When we get there ds excitedly gets it out only for sfil to tell ds he doesn’t want that open in his house. Dh has a word with mil about how excited he’s been about it (it’s not a messy craft, it’s a kit where you put a spinosaurus together) and she agrees. Sfil clearly annoyed (likes to believe he’s the man of the house and what he says goes) then proceeds to basically take the piss out of ds not being able to say spinosaurus correctly because he has a speech impediment caused by his autism. Both me and dh are furious and decide to get some air and go for a walk inviting mil but making it clear we want some space from her husband. She joins us for the walk only for sfil to appear 30 minutes later. Clearly she has told him to come meet us. I was already somewhat annoyed because we were supposed to be staying for dinner but there are very few foods the kids will eat. Dh had spoken to her in advance asking if she’d pick up some of the particular chips they will both eat, turkey dinosaurs and strawberries. She did not because surely they can just eat something from the freezer. I provide food for them every time they visit and make sure it’s food that they will eat as they are both fussy. I was quite offended by this.

Recently I’ve discovered that every time they visit sfil badmouths our parenting all the way home. Criticising us for the fact our children still use a dummy at bed time, that they won’t eat ‘normal’ foods, etc, and basically thinks it’s our fault and they are just spoilt. He won’t let mil visit on her own because he is unable to cook and she needs to be with him to provide his meals. When they do visit he sits on his arse and falls asleep on the sofa for the duration. Only waking up to tell ds off for still needing a dummy ‘like a baby’.

It’s so difficult because mil isn’t a bad person as such. She’s a pushover and will agree to whatever her husband wants for an easy life. It’s like he’s ground everything out of her and she no longer has opinions or wants of her own. The atmosphere in the house is awful. Sfil strops and causes an atmosphere if anybody other than him is in the living room because he’s the man and that’s his room. He strops if he isn’t in control of the television, believes the women of the house should run around after him. It’s awful. Dh took ds to visit them the summer of 2020 when lockdown was briefly lifted to be informed when he arrived that they weren’t allowed in the house and would have to stay in the garden. If he had known that he wouldn’t have bothered!

They are due a visit and I just can’t face it. They also come down every Boxing Day which I will just have to accept for the sake of family harmony. What I’m really dreading is them visiting once the baby is born. Last time they stayed for hours, didn’t lift a finger and managed to grind play doh into the newly laid carpet. The play doh was unopened for very good reason! I don’t know what possessed them!

Dh knows they are beyond useless, will admit that it massively upsets him that his own mother won’t offer any practical help and is passive in the face of sfil but insists it’s still his mother. I know realistically I can’t not let them come down as much as I’d love to. I’m just worried that sfil is going to get worse as the kids get older and the autism isn’t ‘cured’! HmmAngry
I also don’t want to ban mil as such because she really isn’t a bad person. She just will not stand up to her husband.

I guess I’m asking Aibu to feel this way? What do I do!?

OP posts:
JacquelineCarlyle · 14/11/2021 18:52

@billy1966

Well, well, well OP.

He's a right piece of work.

You sound bullied and a bit afraid of him?
Are you?

I suggest you call Womens aid for advice.

Tell them about this man cleaning with the toothbrush and bullying your children.

Your husband has just shown you who he is.

Can't stand up for his children.
Can't stand up to his step father.
Can't stand up to his mother.

But more than happy to bully and threaten his wife.

Now you know who you are living with.

No surprise.

Ring Women's aid.

Flowers

This sadly.
NameChanged15729 · 14/11/2021 19:49

Thank you everyone. It’s all blown up and dh is very upset and I feel awful. Awful that this had to happen but also that the ending was predictable. I somewhat hoped it wouldn’t turn out like this.

I started this thread because they were due to come over next weekend. The thought was making me feel sick but I couldn’t work out if I was over reacting.
Anyway after the riot act dh contacted his mum and explained that after the mocking of the children amongst other things I wasn’t comfortable with sfil in the house and he partially agreed. Not happy with the partially but I’ll take the blame if it means I don’t run the risk of him mocking my children! Mil has reacted as I imagined. Saying that it’s best they don’t visit then and they don’t want to cause arguments between me and dh. She did agree that sfil can be a bit of a dope but he does love the kids and means nothing by it.

I think it’s just illustrated to dh that she is never going to be the mother or grandmother he hoped and that the kids and him aren’t important to her in the way he always thought they would be.

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Pumpkinsonparade · 14/11/2021 19:53

When my dh and mil fell out we agreed to have one Mega Bitch session then never to mention her again.. Nearly 7 years been nc now and dh felt relieved after a few months that he didn't have to have her around anymore. Give your dh time to come to terms with the acknowledgement she isn't what he had hoped for in a dm /dgm.

imnotacelebritygetmeoutofhere · 14/11/2021 20:13

When I got to the part about him using your SIL's toothbrush to clean up shit... what an abusive psychopath. He would not be coming anywhere near my family. It's difficult that you say he won't let MIL visit without him but still I'd make it clear to both of them that she is always welcome to visit but he is not. And then I'd be working up a plan to help MIL and SIL get him out of their home!

Feedingthebirds1 · 14/11/2021 20:54

How brave are you feeling OP? Brave enough to tell him it's you and the DC OR his mother?

Feedingthebirds1 · 14/11/2021 20:56

x posted^^. I hope it all works out OP.

Pumpkinsonparade · 14/11/2021 21:06

My dh knows he is 'free' (as in I would never kick off about it) to make up with his dps at any time but our dc will most definitely not be having a relationship with them.

billy1966 · 14/11/2021 21:39

OP,

This is sad for your husband but it is not your fault that you will not accept your children being abused by his mother's husband.

Your children are not going to be used that way.

He can be sad for his mothers choices but you are neither apologising, accepting blame, nor taking responsibility for his mother's relationship with her grandchildren.

This is on your MIL.

Be firm on this.

That man is hugely abusive and could cause terrible illness to your SIL with his disgusting toothbrush actions.

Your husband needs to get a grip and have more loyalty to his family and children, than his mother does.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 14/11/2021 21:40

I totally understand that your husband is conflicted about this and it must be very upsetting for him to have to have that conversation with his mum.

But it's a dick move to call you abusive...for wanting to keep your kids away from someone who mocks their disabilities. I mean wtf, what's more important here, your husbands feelings or your autistic kids? Your husband is effectively saying his feelings are most important at any cost.

What would/ do your kids say if you asked them if they wanted to see FiL?

JacquelineCarlyle · 14/11/2021 21:54

Once again I completely agree with @billy1966

Pumpkinsonparade · 14/11/2021 22:00

Your dh shouldn't feel conflicted. When he had dc he surely acknowledged that their best interests overruled his dps or even his own?

PerpetualStudent · 14/11/2021 22:57

@billy1966

OP,

This is sad for your husband but it is not your fault that you will not accept your children being abused by his mother's husband.

Your children are not going to be used that way.

He can be sad for his mothers choices but you are neither apologising, accepting blame, nor taking responsibility for his mother's relationship with her grandchildren.

This is on your MIL.

Be firm on this.

That man is hugely abusive and could cause terrible illness to your SIL with his disgusting toothbrush actions.

Your husband needs to get a grip and have more loyalty to his family and children, than his mother does.

This 100%
LuaDipa · 15/11/2021 07:17

You have done the right thing in protecting your dc from this.I would continue to make it clear to mil that she is welcome but her abusive, bullying partner isn’t. And I understand dh doesn’t want to alienate her but none of you should shy away from using the word abusive because that is exactly what he is. Mil has made her choice.

Double3xposure · 15/11/2021 07:49

@NameChanged15729

Thank you everyone, I was somewhat expecting to be told that I should put up with it because it’s not every week.

I know for a fact mil will not visit without him. I don’t know how to explain it but talking to her isn’t like talking to a human. She remains non comital in every conversation and won’t offer opinions. Everything has to be checked with her husband first. Even questions like what would you like for food ends with her saying she has no preference or she will have a think about it (meaning she needs to ask sfil what he wants before making a decision). I remember on one occasion going out to eat with her and the chicken she ordered came out completely raw in the middle. She chose to eat it as it was rather than ‘make a fuss’.
It’s a sad situation but she seems happy and I don’t think it’s occurred to her that she’s allowed opinions of her own.

I’m going to have to broach this again with dh which I can’t foresee going well. It turns the same every time. He knows there’s a massive problem but his mum won’t come without him and so banning him means that I’m banning his mum and therefore I’m abusive for banishing his family.

In that case just go out ( with your children ) every time they come to visit.

If your/husband won’t put the welfare of his children above his own feelings, you will have to .

That way you don’t have to deal with him accusing you of being abusive. Which is pretty nasty of him, given what you have put up with so far from his toxic family.

And you don’t have to play hostess to people who treat you so badly .

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