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AIBU To think attending the Xmas night out is unreasonable?

151 replies

M24L · 12/11/2021 08:16

DH recently started a new job and seems to be settling in well, originally started off on a temporary contract but was then offered a permanent contract about 2 months in. During the temp time he was paid weekly while I'm paid 4 weekly.

Now that he has became a permanent member of the team he has been moved to monthly pay with pay day at the end of the month.

Thus meaning that DH technically only has 1 pay day before Xmas. As I get paid 4 weekly I will have 2 more payments prior to Xmas. My wage covers most of the bills I.e mortgage etc and DH wage is always used to get shopping and any other expenses outwith the usual household bills. We have a joint account and as he was paid weekly it was easier to use my wage to pay everything in a monthly payment. (Just a back story to get the point).

Anyway DH has been asked to go to the Xmas night out, he said he would go as everyone at work was watching when he was asked but then said to me hes not sure what to do as with him moving to monthly wages this month until he gets paid is going to be pretty tight with Xmas next month and having two kids. He hasn't really got any nice "going out clothes" so if he was to go he would need to buy a new outfit. We also live a good bit away from where the night out is taking place so he will have to pay a good bit to get back from it when it's done.

I feel terrible as with him just recently starting I think it would be good for him to go and get to know his colleagues etc a bit better but at the same time I really don't think we can afford it.

AIBU to advise him that we can't afford it and he should miss it this year.

YANBU he just has to understand we haven't got the money this year and he could go next year or to the next night out once Xmas is over with.

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Hemingwayscats · 12/11/2021 11:02

You can’t afford it so he’ll just have to miss out this year. It isn’t the end of the world, my DH never bothers going to his because he finds them awkward and boring.

Bythemillpond · 12/11/2021 11:03

Now that he has became a permanent member of the team he has been moved to monthly pay with pay day at the end of the month

Thus meaning that DH technically only has 1 pay day before Xmas

Usually companies (any which I or Dh have worked for) give out December wages about 1 week before Christmas. You then have a long wait till the end of January

I don’t think anyone will be judging him about wearing work clothes given he won’t exactly be coming home to change and then going out again.

Put a duvet or blankets over your children in the car to go and pick drunk daddy up.
I am sure as a one off it won’t do them any harm.

BurntO · 12/11/2021 11:05

He doesn’t need new clothes. As a one off I would pick him up (put the kids in the car) I used to pick OH up from work at 10pm every night with a young child and it’s not ideal but totally doable and he does the same for me on occasional nights now.

godmum56 · 12/11/2021 11:05

in my whole professional life I never went to one works do outside of work hours and it didn't affect my career at all. He could refuse on the grounds that he already has something else booked....BUT he might want to go and feel better if he did go. so yes....does he really need all new clothes? Can someone watch the kids while you do drop off/pick up? I certainly wouldn't put my finances at risk for it

Northernsoullover · 12/11/2021 11:07

I'm in your husbands position. I hate work nights out and I am broke. I am still attending my work night out as I don't want to be seen as a non team player. I won't drink and I'll head home after the food

If I'm still there next year I can decline when I know people a bit better.

whistleryukon · 12/11/2021 11:10

I don't understand why he can't go and just drive? The world doesn't end if you don't drink on a night out.

Wooky8 · 12/11/2021 11:11

He should definitely attend, limit spends (he can have a couple of drinks and blame staying sober-ish on children being at home, busy day the next day etc). I think you're making it a bigger deal than it needs to be, new clothes, having to drink as he dislikes being around drunk people. He should attend for a few hours then say his goodbyes. Easy to limit spends to £50-60 including transport!

Wnikat · 12/11/2021 11:14

Can he check when the Christmas pay day is? Most companies I’ve worked for do the December payment early, e.g last Friday before Christmas to help people out

notanothertakeaway · 12/11/2021 11:14

No need for new clothes

You could pick him up, as a one off

Meal is £10 plus a couple of drinks

He should go

Gohugatree · 12/11/2021 11:18

Seems a lot of angst over a work night out. Clothes: no-one notices what blokes wear at work - just wear existing clothes.
After dinner drinks: bet he won't be the only one on soft drinks or having a couple of beers only - it's not a prerequisite of a work night out to get ratarsed.
Transport: lif he has a couple of drinks with dinner and then moves on to soft drinks he could drive. If he wants to tie one on, how much is a cab - even if it's only for part of the trip?

JohnDee007 · 12/11/2021 11:20

No one will notice what he is wearing so long as he doesn’t go dressed as a smurf or something.

He can drive (and not drink) or stick the kids in the car and collect him.

First year in a job he should see the Christmas do as part of his job, as shitty as that sounds, his no show will noticed a lot more than his clothes.

RealBecca · 12/11/2021 11:30

Id tell him im not his bank managare and to assesd the finances and see what we need to move around to make it work.

Does he want to spend less on christmas presents?
Borrow money?
Work from home more to save fuel?
Give up his weekly takeaway?

It's really not your job to find a way for him to go, hes an adult, let him.figure it out.

hopeishere · 12/11/2021 11:34

Just put the kids in the car and treat it as an adventure to go and pick him up.

Irishfarmer · 12/11/2021 11:37

I know you said he doesn't go out much and doesn't like being sober around drunk people. Most people don't! The last Christmas party I went to I didn't drink, as I had to drive home and it would have been a fortune in a taxi. I had the pre-meal, meal and stayed for about an hour after. TBH I was glad, I have heard a lot of horror stories of ppl coming in after the Christmas party hanging their heads!!

Thelnebriati · 12/11/2021 11:46

Does he have anything he could sell?

nanbread · 12/11/2021 11:54

Get a new shirt / shoes off eBay, vinted or charity shop - or borrow from a mate?

Tell him to drive and not drink / only have one small welcome drink early on. I know it can be hard being the sober one among drunk people but it's kind of fucked up to get into debt etc or worry about money because of a drug.

NotMyselfWithoutCoffee · 12/11/2021 12:33

Ugh the dreaded work do, I never go to any with mine, never have. Prefer to spend time with my family around Christmas.
Personally I would just make up an excuse that you already booked something and forgot, I really don't see the point of these.. Coworkers are not friends.
If he actually does want to go and not just feeling pressured, then I'm sure you can scrape up the finances for it.

Clymene · 12/11/2021 12:44

If his boss thinks it's important, he should go. Drive, don't worry about a new outfit.

Honestly you're both way way overthinking this.

MajorCarolDanvers · 12/11/2021 12:54

He doesn't need new clothes, he could stick to only 1-2 drinks or say he is not drinking. Only go till 10pm. Do you have a car - not drinking and leaving early will keep the costs down.

There are alternatives but he should go. These things do matter. Its important to get to know his colleagues.

easterholidays · 12/11/2021 13:24

It sounds a lot like you don't want him to go, but every problem you've described is solvable. If he wants to go, he should go.

Gilmoregale · 12/11/2021 13:58

Makes me even more glad I mainly work remotely and don't have to deal with this "not only do we own your soul during the day but you have to come and enjoy enforced fun as well" philosophy. Thankfully our Christmas gathering is going to involve an event during the day so we'll be in normal work clothes (Christmas jumpers have been mentioned but it's not mandatory) and we're all taking food in; we all live some distance from the central place of work and an evening do was voted down though the younger girls in HR seem to be madly supportive, so they're mainly the ones attending the "big" department event. But then they all live within 2-3 miles of the main workplace...

Having said that, it is great that your husband has been taken on permanently; and it would be nice if he is able to show willing, even if it's just for the starter and main course and a couple of drinks, and then maybe leave after that? At least the meal is being paid for mostly, so expenses are really: outfit (if needed), transport, and any drinks. If he drives, he can stick to soft drinks and ask for tap water; if that isn't an option, and it's possible to find the taxi and/or public transport funds, then a pre-ordered taxi at a certain time can be extremely helpful in getting out of things early, I've found, and buses/trains obviously run to timetables (mostly). Am I right in thinking you said you work shifts? Well, if he drives, you evidently need the car to get to work that night, don't you? And the children can't possibly be left alone, and babysitters are impossible to find where you are, so he needs to get back at a reasonable time... ;)

I don't know about where you are, but for outfits, a couple of our local charity shops often have £1 rails, with surprisingly good stuff on there (it's usually when they're trying to make space), would that be an option for a new shirt or sweater? He doesn't need new trousers as well, or new shoes, and the shirt can always be worn for work afterwards. If you go down the ebay route, then either BNWT or BNWOT (brand new with tags/brand new without tags) are good keywords to add, people sell off really good stuff all the time very cheaply. Though to be honest, with a couple of exceptions, I can barely remember what I've worn for previous work do's, let alone anyone else!

I have to say I also sympathise with the "doesn't do drunk people when sober" thing, my family can drink for England (and Scotland, Wales, AND all of Ireland), and I don't drink much at all, and it is one of the reasons I often make excuses not to attend family gatherings. If I'm going to poison myself, alcohol isn't the drug I'll choose, thanks...though these days, thankfully, there's always the, "Sorry I'm driving so I can't drink" response. ;)

ToastedEnglishMuffin · 12/11/2021 14:01

We have an 9 year old and baby so unfortunately me picking him up wouldn't be an option as the kids would be in bed.

Just put both of them in the car, it's a one off Confused

Viviennemary · 12/11/2021 14:03

Of course he should go on the night out if he wants to.

Talkwhilstyouwalk · 12/11/2021 22:12

Pull a sickie....save the cash! Although if he really wants to go (rather than feels that he should) I hope you can come up with a solution.

Cocomarine · 12/11/2021 22:22

Honestly, I think it’s pathetic that he can’t attend without drinking. That cuts your cost problem right down.

I do get the confidence of not wearing “work” clothes. He only needs one new thing though - and a shirt from Primark or eBay will sort that cheaply.

I’d tell him to go, but to drive himself.