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Alice Evans on Lorraine

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Creamcrackersandricecakes · 11/11/2021 09:32

This poor woman is clearly in the middle of the most horrendous breakdown - who the fuck thought this interview was a good idea?

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Sparklesocks · 17/11/2021 10:29

Her twitter is a complete mess. I’m sorry she’s having an awful time but she really needs to think about how this would impact her children.

PollyDarton1 · 17/11/2021 10:29

Honestly? She comes across as massively abusive. Do I stand with IG? No, I reckon there is toxic behaviour on both parts. Do I think AE needs serious help? Absolutely. I've watched this unfolding car crash since it started in early Jan and AE is unravelling rapidly.

KosherDill · 17/11/2021 11:16

This is getting really bad. I like Alice and feel sorry for her, but exhorting strangers on SM to investigate her is beyond the pale.

If I were AE's friend I would go over and physically confiscate her phone and laptop, and get her to a therapist. Before she completely trashes her ability to retain custody of the kids. I'm afraid her future livelihood is done for.

Just have an ominous vision of her working at Walmart in future, ranting about the good old days. So sad.

Butchyrestingface · 17/11/2021 11:19

Do I stand with IG? No, I reckon there is toxic behaviour on both parts.

I certainly don't stand with him and his apparent bolt straight into the arms of a woman young enough to be his daughter, just after exiting a 20 year relationship. How very novel. 🙄

But I can think of nothing I've seen so far to indicate he is anything other than the victim of an abusive, controlling, unhinged, slanderous spouse who is currently unravelling faster than a Christmas jumper.

I hope one of the reasons he's staying schtum is because he's working 24/7 to extricate his kids from the batshittery.

TheLikesofMe · 17/11/2021 11:25

Why does she keep posting pictures of her younger self?

I agree with a previous poster who said she has physically changed beyond what a few years and pounds might alter. I think her dominant, bullying and increasingly unhinged personality is showing in her face.

She needs to stop making a free circus of herself.

Bluntness100 · 17/11/2021 11:33

I hope one of the reasons he's staying schtum is because he's working 24/7 to extricate his kids from the batshittery

From what she’s posting that’s the case. She knows she’s basically lost custody of the kids, she is posting the case against her Ie unfit parent, parental alientation from loan etc, but it doesn’t seem to be enough to stop her and her overriding absolute fury at the fact he’s dating bianca.

You see threads on here from women whose ex’s stalk, abuse and harass them and new partners, who use the kids as emotional weapons to blackmail them , but I’ve been fortunate enough to never have watched it play out in real time and never from a woman.

Pinkspecs · 17/11/2021 11:40

"No one does, but there is no rule that says if you are single and ended a long term relationship you cannot enter a new one."

You obviously are incapable of reading my posts properly I have never said he shouldn't!

Pinkspecs · 17/11/2021 11:40

You are**

Pinkspecs · 17/11/2021 12:00

"Should she think of her children? When shes ranting and throwing accusations around. Is that helpful for the children to have contact but said on twitter last night they shouldn't be with their dad like she should decide? Why would he need to talk to her? And if someone was being abusive about ur gf why should he communicate with her?"

She obviously isn't, she's obviously going through alot of shit at the moment, anyone can see that.
It happens to some people when something extreme happens in their lives.
She's a very broken person it's quite obvious for anyone to see. As I say she needs alot of therapy.
To go away somewhere to recoup.
Now seems to be the time for her to ditch technology and fix herself, I do hope she does that for herself.

He would need to talk to her to co parent with her.
They have kids so I think after 20 years of marriage if you aren't capable of even a simple conversation then you are doing wrong on your part and wrong by your kids.
She says he hasn't spoken to her for 10 months.
That's most of their breakup.
That's alot to take on someone just ghosting you like that after 20 years of marriage.

Anyway you are obviously seeing things very black and white on a situation that obviously isn't.
You pretend he hasn't done anything wrong when he obviously has in regards to the photo and caption and not speaking to her for 10 months, but hey ho never mind.
We are going a bit round and round in circles here.
So enjoy your day @Newrunner29

TokyoDreaming · 17/11/2021 12:04

I'm frankly not surprised that he has ghosted her and I'm not sure why anyone else is either?

Bluntness100 · 17/11/2021 12:10

@TokyoDreaming

I'm frankly not surprised that he has ghosted her and I'm not sure why anyone else is either?
He’s not ghosted her, she has a co parenting app to talk to him directly, She refuses to use it to communicate with him directly as all communications are recorded and can be used by th courts,

Due to th abuse and misconstrue and recital of what he’s done he will only communicate directly via this app with her, it’s her who refuses to use it and she’s open about that. So ghosting isn’t really true, she’s a way to communicate with him, it’s just the lawyers and courts can access it so she won’t use it. What he won’t do is communicate any further with her off the app directly,

Cocolapew · 17/11/2021 12:27

She must use an eye filter she looks like an owl.

TheLikesofMe · 17/11/2021 12:27

And who can blame him for that?

MyDogLovesBiscuits · 17/11/2021 12:31

He doesn't need to talk to her to co parent with her.
They have kids so I think after 20 years of marriage if she isn't capable of even a simple non-abusive conversation then she is doing wrong on her part and wrong by her kids.

Fixed that for you Pinkspecs

Butchyrestingface · 17/11/2021 12:34

Also, they haven't been married 20 years. More like 13. Although, to him, I bet it felt like 300, poor bastard.

Pinkspecs · 17/11/2021 12:36

@MyDogLovesBiscuits

He doesn't need to talk to her to co parent with her. They have kids so I think after 20 years of marriage if she isn't capable of even a simple non-abusive conversation then she is doing wrong on her part and wrong by her kids.

Fixed that for you Pinkspecs

You can't cope with someone not agreeing with you can you.. 😂🤦🏼‍♀️
PeacheyPeach · 17/11/2021 12:38

There are always two sides to a break up.
My parents divorced and my DM was so broken hearted that she basically stopped being a mother to her children.
But it's only now that I'm a wife and mother myself that I can see she wasn't particularly the innocent one in it all. Yes my father has an affair and left to start a new life,but my DM was an absolute nightmare to live with! She was awful and now looking back I can't believe that they didn't break up earlier.
Im actually NC with my father so im not advocating his behaviour but I think to the outside world he was the number one villan and she was the victim, but I think they are both to blame, and I think this is the case with AE and IG.
She is full of herself and her problems does she even care about her kids or is she just interested in then as pawns in her toxic battles ( who is actually looking after the children when she is constantly Twitter and Instagram?)

Pinkspecs · 17/11/2021 12:39

@Butchyrestingface

Also, they haven't been married 20 years. More like 13. Although, to him, I bet it felt like 300, poor bastard.
Married for 13 together for 20 years. It's a very long time..

Stop trying to minimise at any given opportunity.
I wouldn't say to my friend who has been with her partner for 15 years, 'oh but it doesn't count you aren't married' Confused

Butchyrestingface · 17/11/2021 12:45

Stop trying to minimise at any given opportunity.

Minimise what? That an apparent abuse victim appears to have got away from his tormenter?

My judgement is that he's left his kids with her for the best part of a year.

LemonTT · 17/11/2021 12:45

Of course he can’t contact her directly. There is clear abusive behaviour on her part. Has been since the separation and not just the picture. She was warned before and stopped tweeting.

No one would even recommend this was a good option now, even if he was willing. It would just be another outlet for her rage.

She is trying to control him. And now she is using bullying and intimidation. The last post about digging up information for a big organisation means she is trying to sell a story to a tabloid. They want something to collaborate her allegations.

But the tabloids would have done their own digging around the affair and offered money already. That they found no one in the gossipy world of show business is why I am hugely doubtful there was a long term affair. No one inspires that loyalty. And no workplace affair is ever secret. Not only will somebody know, everyone will know.

So whilst show-business is a field notorious and ripe for affairs, especially on location, I just don’t see how no one has collaborated the allegations.

LaLaLaDiDahLa · 17/11/2021 12:47

I can see why she’s lost the plot so spectacularly. From her perspective, she could lose everything, her DC, her home, she stopped working as both of them couldn’t be travelling across the world for months at a time, he is now successful because she facilitated that, she’s older and has lost her looks, probably menopausal and he’s now got a much younger, thinner, more attractive model who hasn’t got DC tying her down, and he could have been fucking her behind her back while he was away living the single life for months at a time in so called paradise. She must also be terribly worried about living the way she’s become accustomed to and about her DC’s.

It’s enough to make anyone go crazy. I agree the ‘keeping dignity’ is bullshit and just let’s the ditcher or cheater get away with disgusting behaviour with no consequences and it’s the woman 99% of the time who’s supposed to keep it but she could have used this as a platform to bring this out into the open in a grown up way to help other women and try to heal herself. Instead she is really making herself look terrible and has gone way too far. Obviously addicted to SM and is very unwell.

I only hope Ioan is not still in France with his girlfriend. He should be in LA looking after his DC while their mother is in such a bad way. I judge him more for that than her for being unwell and having access to SM.

Pinkspecs · 17/11/2021 12:48

@Butchyrestingface

Stop trying to minimise at any given opportunity.

Minimise what? That an apparent abuse victim appears to have got away from his tormenter?

My judgement is that he's left his kids with her for the best part of a year.

No you were being pedantic over their marriage length. It doesn't matter they have been together 20 years. Now your going on about something completely different. Deflecting.
Pinkspecs · 17/11/2021 12:49

@LaLaLaDiDahLa

I can see why she’s lost the plot so spectacularly. From her perspective, she could lose everything, her DC, her home, she stopped working as both of them couldn’t be travelling across the world for months at a time, he is now successful because she facilitated that, she’s older and has lost her looks, probably menopausal and he’s now got a much younger, thinner, more attractive model who hasn’t got DC tying her down, and he could have been fucking her behind her back while he was away living the single life for months at a time in so called paradise. She must also be terribly worried about living the way she’s become accustomed to and about her DC’s.

It’s enough to make anyone go crazy. I agree the ‘keeping dignity’ is bullshit and just let’s the ditcher or cheater get away with disgusting behaviour with no consequences and it’s the woman 99% of the time who’s supposed to keep it but she could have used this as a platform to bring this out into the open in a grown up way to help other women and try to heal herself. Instead she is really making herself look terrible and has gone way too far. Obviously addicted to SM and is very unwell.

I only hope Ioan is not still in France with his girlfriend. He should be in LA looking after his DC while their mother is in such a bad way. I judge him more for that than her for being unwell and having access to SM.

I totally agree.
Bluntness100 · 17/11/2021 12:52

He’s in a flat in Los Angeles according to Alice.

Bluntness100 · 17/11/2021 12:54

And the children have been visiting him, th issue is what Alice permits th kids to do. He can’t just go and steal them, that’s not how it works. He’s going rhe legal route.

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