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Alice Evans on Lorraine

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Creamcrackersandricecakes · 11/11/2021 09:32

This poor woman is clearly in the middle of the most horrendous breakdown - who the fuck thought this interview was a good idea?

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Cocolapew · 14/11/2021 14:13

Ioan hasn't said anything about Alice, there's no point saying if he thinks she's so toxic he should have taken the children, we don't know what he thinks of her. And of course you shouldn't stay with someone you don't love for the sake of the children Confused why bring them up in a hostile environment?
And, again, he was to get the girls and Alice refused to let him have them because she wasn't ready to "not have them that day" or some such nonsense.
I'm surprised none of her cheerleaders have alerted her to the threads on here tbh, she's already mentioned the Tattle ones.

Thesummeriwas16 · 14/11/2021 14:20

@Cocolapew

Ioan hasn't said anything about Alice, there's no point saying if he thinks she's so toxic he should have taken the children, we don't know what he thinks of her. And of course you shouldn't stay with someone you don't love for the sake of the children Confused why bring them up in a hostile environment? And, again, he was to get the girls and Alice refused to let him have them because she wasn't ready to "not have them that day" or some such nonsense. I'm surprised none of her cheerleaders have alerted her to the threads on here tbh, she's already mentioned the Tattle ones.
I don't think having sympathy and compassion for Alice constitutes being a cheerleader. I think mostly everyone has agreed she is wrong to rant on social media but I for one feel incredibly sorry for her.
Thesummeriwas16 · 14/11/2021 14:26

@Cococolapew and also why would anyone who feels for Alice at all want to direct her to this thread - that would just be cruel.

Cocolapew · 14/11/2021 14:28

By cheerleaders I mean the people on SM who are egging her on and adding fuel to the fire. It's possible to feel sorry for her, (I do even though I think her behaviour isn't great atm) without constantly posting how awful he is and how wonderful AE is. I think some of them are a bit starstruck that she's communicating with them Hmm

longwayoff · 14/11/2021 14:30

Agreed. She's in a state. What happened to Be Kind? Couldn't move on MN for people beseeching others to give it a rest and Be Kind a few months ago. Or is that just for people who've been driven to the absolute end? Leave her alone, she is not well.

Cocolapew · 14/11/2021 14:30

[quote Thesummeriwas16]@Cococolapew and also why would anyone who feels for Alice at all want to direct her to this thread - that would just be cruel.[/quote]
Have you looked at her SM? Its full of hanger on'ers keeping the narrative going

Thesummeriwas16 · 14/11/2021 14:31

@Cocolapew

By cheerleaders I mean the people on SM who are egging her on and adding fuel to the fire. It's possible to feel sorry for her, (I do even though I think her behaviour isn't great atm) without constantly posting how awful he is and how wonderful AE is. I think some of them are a bit starstruck that she's communicating with them Hmm
Yes, sorry I misunderstood. You'e right they're definitely not her friends.
Cocolapew · 14/11/2021 14:37

I wish Alice would realise that too, it doesn't impact their life at all.

Glassofshloer · 14/11/2021 14:38

I think she’s a bit self important, she thinks she’s suddenly the charismatic leader of a hoarse of ‘silenced’ women. The way she kept saying ‘everyone is grateful to me for speaking out for them’ and similar Hmm

Glassofshloer · 14/11/2021 14:38

*hoarde

Cocolapew · 14/11/2021 14:45

This was in reply to AE saying a year ago she was contemplating killing herself. She doesn't know this person who is telling her they're now besties Confused

Alice Evans on Lorraine
Cocolapew · 14/11/2021 14:45

This more thoughtful reply directly under the other tweet gets ignored

Alice Evans on Lorraine
WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps · 14/11/2021 14:54

Well we've had the mention on Twitter 🙄

Thesummeriwas16 · 14/11/2021 14:57

@Glassofshloer

I think she’s a bit self important, she thinks she’s suddenly the charismatic leader of a hoarse of ‘silenced’ women. The way she kept saying ‘everyone is grateful to me for speaking out for them’ and similar Hmm
And you seem to be revelling in her misfortune.
longwayoff · 14/11/2021 15:05

Horde.

LemonTT · 14/11/2021 15:43

One element of this discussion which is worthy of further debate and discussion centres on the type of lifestyle they both decided to live when married.

There were two aspects that are notable. That she was 100% homemaker and he was 100% breadwinner. Then that he had a vocational type of career that took him away for long periods of time. It’s not usual but it’s also not that rare.

I have experience of the vocational career (and period of working away). It’s not for the faint hearted and it’s impossible to negotiate it with someone who has a vocation. I wouldn’t recommend it to someone who doesn’t understand it. But it is workable and children are resilient to it. Consistency and reliability can be more important than presence when it comes to parenthood.

As to a woman’s decision to be a long term 100% homemaker / SAHP, I am not convinced that it’s a wise decision for most women. As clean breaks are increasingly used, for most women it leaves them with the fish not the fishing rod when it comes to future lifestyle. It doesn’t help that assets like pensions and savings are usually less than when 2 people work.

I’m not saying people shouldn’t be SAHP, just that both parents should be aware of what this means further down the line if they decide to divorce. It would do breadwinners good to accept they need to offer up bigger settlements if they wanted a homemaker.

Bluntness100 · 14/11/2021 15:50

Ig was fighting for joint custody, i wouldn’t be surprised if it has now changed to full custody. I don’t underatsnd what Alice was trying to gain by trying to damage his career, she’d bizarrely already declared on twitter she was “owed” spousal maintenance for life,

Her focus has now changed though, she’s going after Bianca hard and making her full responsible for her marriage breakdown like her and Loan were victims of Bianca, it’s so very odd. She seems to have deluded herself into actually believing it’s Biancas fault and she had this perfect marriage that Bianca was targeting for years as some plan to get her more film work. Like ig is more than the minor b list celeb he is and might actually be Tom hanks in disguise.

Like many others, I also pity her. She’s a bunch of cheated on rubberneckers on there egging her on for their own entertainment and satisfaction, none of them have her best interests at heart, they are just loving feeling involved in thr drama and the gossip of it. It’s a hot mess. And Lorraine had her on for the same reason, so everyone could have a look at the spectacle she’s making of herself,

Againstmachine · 14/11/2021 15:58

He seems to have a long-standing pattern of taking jobs far away from his family. That's not admirable. And to some of us, "falling out of love" is not a good enough reason to break up the family unit while minor kids are involved.

He is an actor who takes the roles offered as his Hollywood career stalled after him and Evans alledgely got downgraded from the roles they were getting due to weinstien.

Iamdobby63 · 14/11/2021 16:00

@LemonTT It is a risk when one person sacrifices their career. Must be a hard decision when both work in the same industry. What I don’t get is that relating to Alice is that she has worked in the time they’ve been married. Obviously we don’t know all the ins and outs and she may have turned work down due to his work commitments.

MyDogLovesBiscuits · 14/11/2021 16:58

@Cocolapew

Ioan hasn't said anything about Alice, there's no point saying if he thinks she's so toxic he should have taken the children, we don't know what he thinks of her. And of course you shouldn't stay with someone you don't love for the sake of the children Confused why bring them up in a hostile environment? And, again, he was to get the girls and Alice refused to let him have them because she wasn't ready to "not have them that day" or some such nonsense. I'm surprised none of her cheerleaders have alerted her to the threads on here tbh, she's already mentioned the Tattle ones.
I remain convinced she's a MNetter and is already on these threads.
Butchyrestingface · 14/11/2021 17:25

I'm struggling to imagine her being a sane, level-headed, attentive parent in between the near constant batshittery online.

Thesummeriwas16 · 14/11/2021 18:41

MyDogLovesBiscuits I think it would be obvious if she was on here - I don't even think she would hide her identity.

MyDogLovesBiscuits · 14/11/2021 18:49

@Thesummeriwas16

MyDogLovesBiscuits I think it would be obvious if she was on here - I don't even think she would hide her identity.
Fair enough Thesummer.

I'm sticking with my theory all the same.

Bluntness100 · 14/11/2021 19:16

It’s crazy what’s going on, it’s like watching a car crash when you know you should look away, she’s now fully back to calling Loan “my hubs” and making out this was all some viscous ploy by Bianca where he was taken in. Th things she’s writing must see her in court,

Alice Evans on Lorraine
Butchyrestingface · 14/11/2021 19:32

@Bluntness100

It’s crazy what’s going on, it’s like watching a car crash when you know you should look away, she’s now fully back to calling Loan “my hubs” and making out this was all some viscous ploy by Bianca where he was taken in. Th things she’s writing must see her in court,
I'd ask where on earth she is getting this 100% prime bollox from but I know it's her gang of crazies on Twitter feeding her. Sad