Alice Evans on Lorraine

[Creamcrackersandricecakes]

This poor woman is clearly in the middle of the most horrendous breakdown - who the fuck thought this interview was a good idea?

@Glassofshloer

I’ve also seen the ‘seducing’ tweet. To everyone saying posters are being anti-women by ‘letting IG off the hook’, surely she’s doing that all by herself by pinning the blame on his ‘seductress’?!

What is this seducing tweet? It’s not accessible on Twitter now.

@Bagelsandbrie

mobile.twitter.com/AliceEvansGruff/status/1459448940554719233

It works for me?

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[quote Glassofshloer]@Bagelsandbrie

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It works for me?[/quote]
I meant this bit….

I feel so sorry for these girls. I hope Alice is shielding them from her hurt and anger but I’m not convinced.

It was this Bagels.

@WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps

It was this Bagels.

Ahhh okay. Thank you. (I’m too invested in all this, god knows why).

(I’m too invested in all this, god knows why).

Me too 😑

She’s deffo not going down quietly, is she??

Her twitter is like watching a car crash in slow motion.

She actually thought her child’s therapist had been bought off by IG’s lawyer?

@Bagelsandbrie ohhhh sorry thought you meant the other one

[quote Etsylicious]@Bagelsandbrie she also said she got a notification on Insta saying ‘Ioan Gruffudd has unblocked you’ hours before he posted the pic with Bianca.

Insta def doesn’t notify you when someone unblocks you 🤷🏻‍♀️[/quote]
I picked up on that too and questioned it as I was pretty certain that didn't happen.

I imagine there's a LOT of alcohol involved with the tweeting and insta shaming.

Yes there’s clearly a lot of late night drinking involved. There was a tweet she wrote (no idea if it’s still there or not!) where she said he’d had a go at her for drinking and posting stuff late at night and then was too hungover to take the kids somewhere the next morning - she said she was still a good parent as she’d arranged for the nanny to take over instead so she was still a fabulous parent (never mind the drinking too much hey)!

I am really interested in knowing what it is that AE and her supporters are “speaking out” about. There’s a subtext and sinister alt right language being used that implies he shouldn’t be allowed to leave and that he must be bound to her forever. All very Phyllis Schlafly in language and intent.

I can get that the idea that divorce is painful but it’s that for both parties in different ways. I’m not sure that is an unknown that needs to promoted in anyway that wouldn’t backfire.

People are not chattels or possessions and we fought to end the treatment of women as such many decades ago. Nobody can abandon or discard us because we are not things. We have rights that give us independence. We have divorce laws that mean the impact of marriages and parenthood are remedied. We continue to fight for equalities in relation to parenthood. We have more to progress but we sure as hell don’t want to regress back to Edwardian times or the 50’s.

Even at a metaphorical level there is no abandonment. In this particular case there is a known collaborative agreement. It provides for AE to continue to live in the marital home and to receive financial support. It has arrangements for IG to see his children. It has arrangements for them to communicate about these issues.

As to the idea that this is about looks and age. I don’t know what IG’s attitude is towards women. But AE has done a bang up job of exposing her own misogynistic attitudes and they need to challenged. As women we don’t want to valued on looks period. Mostly because we are more than that but on a shallow level they won’t last. AE is part of the problem in her attitudes and language not the voice for women.

The final point AE seems to make is that she has pitied or looked down on single women and is now indignant or humiliated that she is one. On that she can fuck right off.

"People are not chattels or possessions and we fought to end the treatment of women as such many decades ago. Nobody can abandon or discard us because we are not things. We have rights that give us independence. We have divorce laws that mean the impact of marriages and parenthood are remedied. We continue to fight for equalities in relation to parenthood. We have more to progress but we sure as hell don’t want to regress back to Edwardian times or the 50’s."

Well quite. And this is why I object so strongly to the notion that AE should be encouraged because she is speaking out for all women whose partners leave them. Because it's bollocks.

The most painful split I've witnessed among my friends and peers (I'll put my parents divorce aside for a minute because it was a very long time ago) was between two women.

@WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps

It was this Bagels.

Oh god. Why aren't any of her friends stepping in and taking away her devices. One day she'll look back on this and be mortified.

Well I certainty don't get into relationships with newly separated fathers, so I don't really feel sorry for the new one, seductress or not

I really like her and feel desperately sad for her.
I’m not sure about her vilification of her husband’s new partner but her husband is indeed, a prick. Why should he get away with swanning off into the sunset with a younger model and not be called out on it.

Called out for what, exactly?

Quite, posting a picture about how his new gf had brought his smile back was probably lovely for his kids

@Fomofo

Quite, posting a picture about how his new gf had brought his smile back was probably lovely for his kids

Compliments to his girlfriend aren’t insults to his children.

Where it is AE and IG can people please stop stating or implying they don’t care about their children. This is a public forum, the kids can read it and they shouldn’t read their parents don’t love them or care about them.

We all agreed that is wrong to post on SM in a way that causes harm to the children. That applies to us as well IG and AE.

It’s really not on to plant these poisonous comments that the children can read. And no you can’t justify it by saying he did or she did it first. Own your behaviour.

@Fomofo

Quite, posting a picture about how his new gf had brought his smile back was probably lovely for his kids

Insensitive yes, equally I think Alice’s behaviour and all her tweeting is hurtful and damaging to the children. He left her, he was unhappy with her, not the children. By her own words it appears he can’t FaceTime the girls without her popping up. She seems to put a lot of emphasis on him leaving his children, cheating on his children etc., they are not possessions and shouldn’t be used in this way.

To repeat, I’ve been where she is, it’s not nice but right now the only people she is hurting are the girls and ultimately herself.

@Fomofo

Quite, posting a picture about how his new gf had brought his smile back was probably lovely for his kids

Yes but their mother is now sharing information about their bloody therapy sessions on twitter! She's hardly got the moral highground when it comes to social media and potential damage to their children.

Called out on saying his new gf gave him a reason to smile, despite having two children at home, for a start.