Alice Evans on Lorraine

[Creamcrackersandricecakes]

This poor woman is clearly in the middle of the most horrendous breakdown - who the fuck thought this interview was a good idea?

Yes Ewan McGregor literally makes my skin crawl now. Horrible that he literally went for a carbon copy of his wife looks wise but 20 years younger. The ex wife has a lot of respect from people because she’s stayed out of it all and just focused on herself and her / their (adult) children.

How do you protect her from herself though? She’s clearly a very forceful personality. You can’t section her. I think Bianca will need to take legal action against her, and I’m sure Alice’s lawyers will be telling her to stop making these accusations.

Calling it affair was on shaky ground, but going after her like this and accusing her of deliberately targeting loan to further her career and this constant harrassment isn’t ok.

She seems to be infuriated that Bianca has acting work, and is trying to ruin it.

Surely the best revenge is “fuck you?”. I haven’t been in this situation (never say never) but would like to imagine I would move on to a new and better chapter and would make Dh jealous with my cool new life! The direct opposite to Alice. Like Meryl Steep in it’s complicated.

Or actually like the 3 divorced friends I have irl thinking about it!

How do you protect her from herself though?

That's the thing isn't it, short of sitting on her to physically stop her, or by being threatened by a lawsuit, I don't see her stopping any time soon, especially when she's being rabidly encouraged by rubberneckers on social media.

@Bagelsandbrie she also said she got a notification on Insta saying ‘Ioan Gruffudd has unblocked you’ hours before he posted the pic with Bianca.

Insta def doesn’t notify you when someone unblocks you 🤷🏻‍♀️

It’s a bit like picking at a spot really. When my now ex dh left me (for a girlfriend he’d had before me, they’d “reconnected” on Facebook 🙄) I blocked them both immediately on everything. The last thing I wanted to see was photos of them together / him popping up. He upped and left over a 2 week period and never saw or attempted to see our then 5 year old dd again. Just disappeared off with the other woman. (Who he’d been seeing when he went down to stay with his Mum - we’d moved out of London to Norfolk to start a new life about a year before that and we worked different hours so he’d regularly go down and spend the odd night / day with his mum so I never thought much of it). Anyway that was a LONG time ago now. Dd is now an adult at university and I really hardly think about it all now except for threads like this. If I had kept tormenting myself with their photos and actions on social media it would have just made me feel worse and worse. It’s best to have a clean break, to imagine they don’t exist and focus on yourself and gradually the pain does get less and less. I can actually think about him now and not feel anything at all, in fact I can see how wrong we were together. And I’m now happily remarried.

[quote Etsylicious]@Bagelsandbrie she also said she got a notification on Insta saying ‘Ioan Gruffudd has unblocked you’ hours before he posted the pic with Bianca.

Insta def doesn’t notify you when someone unblocks you 🤷🏻‍♀️[/quote]
Yes I thought the same thing!

Bianca Wallace has now disappeared from Instagram.

Alice explained what she meant by unblock, in her Twitter thread. Something about receiving notice he had received a previous post of hers. I don't think she's lying.

I just wonder if Alice has considered the effect on her future ability to earn a living. My sympathies are with her, but she does sound batshit. And with the horse teeth stuff, vindictive.

He can't earn enough to support two California households for decades to come, surely? If the courts would even order that, which seems doubtful.

I still honestly think a lot of this sort of behaviour could be avoided if the person initiating break up had the courage and integrity to be open and honest and respect the previous relationship by communicating decently.

Many men can be cowardly or have the ability to "compartmentalise" and just don't want to deal with anything "messy" or "emotional" and of course their silence and blocking behaviour has the opposite effect on the woman who feels hurt, increasingly rejected and bewildered, especially if prior to this, often very recently been prior to this, he has been kind, respectful, supportive and open.

I don't claim to understand why many men do this, or why they think it is the best strategy? Is it cowardice or is it an ill advised attempt at making a clean break? Because in nine out of ten cases, it just ups the vitriol and antipathy as the woman vents her sense of outrage at the unfairness of it all, back on to him. If the person who was leaving (the bloke) just took the time to explain and communicate properly and have the decency to respect the length of a former relationship, even if they have come to hate everything about it, the outcome would be so much better for both parties.

@KosherDill

Alice explained what she meant by unblock, in her Twitter thread. Something about receiving notice he had received a previous post of hers. I don't think she's lying.

I’ve blocked and unblocked lots of people on Instagram before (dh and I use it a lot) and never, ever had that happen. Very curious.

Hard to know whether Alice is lying as she changes her statements all the time. She also deletes like crazy. She really needs to step away from social media, she jumps on anything and everything and is not coming across well. Yesterday she jumped on someone claiming their husband had an affair with BW, not sure how that convo ended as it’s very hard to follow her Twitter.

Attacking BW’s agent is going too far and I’m surprised there aren’t any harassment orders or cease and desist as yet. I do feel for her to a point but I think this is going to end badly for her if she doesn’t get real life support and help. I don’t believe her new Twitter friends have her best interests at heart.

@KosherDill

Alice explained what she meant by unblock, in her Twitter thread. Something about receiving notice he had received a previous post of hers. I don't think she's lying.

You don’t receive either of those on insta. What she would receive is a notification he posted. So I follow some people. I have it set up to receive notifications if they post or update their story. Anyone can set that up,

So she’d have got a notification saying loan gruffad has posted. That’s all.

She was just trying to make it more dramatic than it was.

That's the logic of an abuser, Muddy - "If you didn't make me feel this way, I wouldn't have reacted that way." We are all responsible for our own behavior.

Muddybanks, agree, as well as not posting pics of new gf, that's just mean and provocative

I still honestly think a lot of this sort of behaviour could be avoided if the person initiating break up had the courage and integrity to be open and honest and respect the previous relationship by communicating decently

But you don’t know he didn’t. And quite frankly even Alice doesn’t know if he had an affair. Just believing the narrative because it fits how you think “men behave” lacks critical thought. It is perfectly plausible this marriage ended for many other reasons, that the relationship broke down a long time ago. Alice changing the narrative doesn’t mean it’s true.

@bibliomania

That's the logic of an abuser, Muddy - "If you didn't make me feel this way, I wouldn't have reacted that way." We are all responsible for our own behavior.

Nonsense. People can be pushed to their limits by life events.

Biblio, ah the classic twisting of narrative to make the victim the abuser

@Bluntness100

I still honestly think a lot of this sort of behaviour could be avoided if the person initiating break up had the courage and integrity to be open and honest and respect the previous relationship by communicating decently

But you don’t know he didn’t. And quite frankly even Alice doesn’t know if he had an affair. Just believing the narrative because it fits how you think “men behave” lacks critical thought. It is perfectly plausible this marriage ended for many other reasons, that the relationship broke down a long time ago. Alice changing the narrative doesn’t mean it’s true.

Bluntness you don't know any better than me that has happened and yet have decided to come firmly and repeatedly down on the side of the ex husband. According to your line of argument, that is not applying critical thought either.

I believe the statistics are that one in five married blokes have an affair. I try and be supportive of other women.

Bluntness you don't know any better than me that has happened and yet have decided to come firmly and repeatedly down on the side of the ex husband. According to your line of argument, that is not applying critical thought either.

I believe the statistics are that one in five married blokes have an affair. I try and be supportive of other women.

Apply your critical thinking skills to the evidence. There is no evidence that IG had an affair. There is plenty of evidence of Alice’s behaviour.

Muddybanks, I very much get the feeling that any attempt to have a conversation, to explain and communicate properly would have been impossible. I think Ioan Gruffud will have tried to sort out the issues but it's becoming obvious that he's not the unreasonable one. I think it's becoming plain why he wanted out of the relationship.

Posters have said that Alice Evans should not have to hide her hurt and be dignified but silent. OK, but the old maxim 'least said soonest mended' appears never to have been more true. By venting on SM she's :

Playing to the huns who are whipping up the frenzy but will desert her as soon as the next sleb circus bowls into town.

Ditto the tabloids (and the TV versions of the tabloids - see Lorraine and Loose Women)

Making herself unemployable (although as she's obviously expecting spousal maintenance for ever, maybe she doesn't care.)

Damaging her children. They are school age. There is no way they don't know what their mother is saying - in fact they've probably seen it.

Damaging her children's relationship with their father. OK, she hates him, but she shouldn't be poisoning his relationship with his children.

Damaging her own relationship with her children.

Damaging any chance of a civilised divorce, and it's her daughters who will bear the brunt.

@CounsellorTroi

Bluntness you don't know any better than me that has happened and yet have decided to come firmly and repeatedly down on the side of the ex husband. According to your line of argument, that is not applying critical thought either.

I believe the statistics are that one in five married blokes have an affair. I try and be supportive of other women.

Apply your critical thinking skills to the evidence. There is no evidence that IG had an affair. There is plenty of evidence of Alice’s behaviour.

That’s an interesting point. I’m sure that if he’d been having an affair people would have outed him, especially if as Alice is trying to claim people on the set knew he was. A photo or story would have “slipped” out surely? Rumours were circulating about Ewan McGregor for example long before it became official.

@Fomomofo

Biblio, ah the classic twisting of narrative to make the victim the abuser

Do you have any evidence he's abusive? All we can see at the moment is Alice going crazy on social media, throwing accusations out here and there and sending her minions after his new girlfriend, who apparently suffers from MS, btw, to the point where she's had to delete her IG. She's hounded the production team and cast of Ioan's show, she's fat shamed and abused Ioan's co star, and thinks anyone who disagrees with her is a Bianca sock puppet account. She posted unflattering photos and videos of IG when they were still married which he begged her not to share and she's the victim in all this?

All he's done from the evidence so far, is fallen out of love with her which he's perfectly entitled to do and it's something that happens everyday, to men and women all over the world. There's no evidence, apart from Alice's crazy theories which change daily, that he was seeing Bianca while they were still married. The only one twisting of the narrative so far, from what I can see, is Alice.