To be ashamed of our Sleazebag PM?

[Sean2001]

If it wasn't bad enough, Johnson presiding over the Paterson vote last week ...

He's now refusing to attend the debate today on sleaze/corruption

He also will not allow the sleaze watchdog to look into his flat refurbishment.

Does Johnson actually think this kind of behaviour is impressive?

I find it deeply embarrassing.

The Times' Matthew Parris has written this... totally scathing.
He's turned on him.

If anyone else brings up Iraq to justify voting in this bunch of aresholes,hindsight is an amazing thing, the Torys voted for Iraq too by the way and managed similar with Libya and many years ago the Falklands, they are hardly squeaky clean on this front , iraq wasn't a uni lateral thing just randomly gone ahead with and was based on intelligence, yes turns out the intelligence was flawed but they didn't do it off the top of their head without parliament.some of you seem a bit late to politics and whats gone before. My biggest issue with labour is nothing to do with this, the biggest issue is pandering to the ludicrously woke brigade and trying to push the Brexit issue to one side (although I suspect this is playing politics and they will indeed seek an EFTA deal) however if that's the biggest issues then I will take these any day over this current bunch of self serving failed Apprentice candidates with inflated egos and zero sense of decency.

It's a distraction

Next up Geoffrey Cox who earned £1m from external legal work on top of his £82,000 MP's salary in the past year, stands accused of “pocketing hundreds of thousands of pounds to help stop the exposure of corruption in a Caribbean paradise”

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10179601/Former-attorney-general-Geoffrey-Cox-second-job-saw-vote-remotely-Caribbean.html

I was watching Channel Four News last night and a member of the public was asked about Johnson. She said something like:

' I think Boris has done a good job over the past 18 months and it is The Media that are now blowing things out of proportion'

Does she not have the Parliament Channel on her TV? She can see all the debates about corruption for herself then.

I am afraid to say boogie there are those voters out there who will always support him whatever. They are brainwashed. They like him 'because he's funny'. They like him because he breaks the rules and does it his way. They like him because they're like him. They would no more watch, for instance, the live debate on Standards yesterday in the HoC, than fly to the moon.

He's a Trump mini me.

The point is that in a system enabling institutional corruption , an individual such as Johnson, flourishes.
Many of these MPs simply believe they are above the law , look at Paterson and now Cox.
And I’d be nice nterested to know how many are still employing family members on generous salaries with absolutely no scrutiny or process.

Thank you Roussette. I know you are absolutely right...it's just so frustrating that so many people think this way. Johnson is their rock star.

They are brainwashed. They like him 'because he's funny'. They like him because he breaks the rules and does it his way

I’d say it’s more that they’re apathetic and disinterested rather than brainwashed. Hence the three word slogan bullshit. Quick soundbite telling people how they should feel without any real substance.

I’m not calling these people thick. They just don’t care, and Johnson appeals to these people as he has a few gags and appears to be someone you’d like to have a pint with. Politicians haven’t really played that way before, but it’s essentially just populism, simple answers for complex problems when the real answers are too boring or troublesome for these voters to process.

And all the time this pantomime goes on, our international reputation has plummeted to an all time low. The EU just want us to fuck off now, and the US is not far behind. Woo Australia likes us and that’s about it. And that is an appalling state of affairs.

He's a disgrace. Always was, always will be.

The maskless pictures have added to the heat haven't they?

In a way, yes - but by giving plenty of appalling behaviours to go at, it saves too much attention being given to any one of them IYSWIM?

Not that he has to actually "give" them, since with such a morality-free zone they just keep tumbling out anyway

Lonelycrab I agree. They either like him because he's funny or they just don't care but when pushed to pick someone they pick him because Corbyn doncha know.

I think the wheels are coming off the bus now (hopefully) because he cannot trade on vaccine vaccine vaccine anymore like he's done for over a year. Other EU countries have overtaken us on that.

So he is lamely trying booster booster booster but that's not really working.

He cannot trade on vaccine vaccine vaccine anymore like he's done for over a year

Very true, Roussette, but if we manage to get through this winter without another lockdown he can always claim "Look what I saved you from!!" - and worst of all, some will believe it

FWIW I believe Covid has a lot to do with the (understandable) frustration many of us are feeling right now. So much has been lost, and to see these creatures continuing to fight for the trough with absolutely no concern for anyone but themselves gets a bit much at times

Yes, I agree.

Some Johnson supporters acted like he had personally vaccinated each and every one of them earlier in the year.

It’s the combination of the professional, political and personal amorality which horrified me.

In no real order:

Racist, xenophobic, misogynistic columns

Lying to the Queen for the illegal Prorogation

Gaslighting remarks about making model buses, etc - is he laughing at us?!

Leaving Arcuri alone in the marital home to take selfies - massive security risk, and insult to his wife

Not acknowledging his own children.

Overturning a statute to provide foreign aide through a Government vote.

The humongous Union Jack’s / St George’s flag (the football) everywhere

Never giving interviews on TV

Actively trying to undermine and destabilise the EU / the disgrace of the Northern Ireland Protocol.

£37 billion given to cronies for Test and Trace in England and Wales, and how that’s falsely branded NHS T&T

His callous disregard for life and public health in his handling of coronavirus

The shiftiness over the Mustique and Marbella holidays, the flat redecoration, the £27k worth of donated takeaways.

The laziness, the unkemptness.

Conducting an affair (or two) while his wife is battling cancer.

Signing off on a Withdrawal Agreement he never, ever intended to honour.

Keeping Priti Patel in post after she’d been found to have broken the Ministerial Code (and already been sacked for going rogue).

Dominic Cummings.

I mean. Complete. And. Utter. Charlatan.

As a Scot, especially, it makes me despair. I voted No in 2014, now I’m left feeling that a vote for independence is a vote for the UK values we used to have.

Tim Tams. Waving a vacuum-packed kipper on a podium and lying about it. Lying, lying, lying.

I’ll stop now. But I can’t stand the man. That no one has really held him to account in the past 30 years - bar the Eddie Mair interview, I suppose - depresses me.

Time again for Peter Stefanovic' video

twitter.com/peterstefanovi2/status/1455986139718893572?s=21

As a Scot, especially, it makes me despair. I voted No in 2014, now I’m left feeling that a vote for independence is a vote for the UK values we used to have.
As an English person, don't blame you at all and am hoping you'll welcome expats from England after that's happened

That no one has really held him to account in the past 30 years - bar the Eddie Mair interview, I suppose - depresses me.

Yes it's very depressing, how the establishment aided by the media protects itself. Then so many people in denial or don't care. However, on the bright side, some stones have been lifted and the creepies are all crawling out now. Hopefully a few will get squished and trodden into the muck where they belong.

If not, at least now we know what really goes on at Westminster; if people choose not to look, they've only got themselves to blame when they get bitten.

@adamryan Gladly! Scotland would be an unbearably very narrow place if it became independent, just to not be outward-looking and welcoming. I hope that’s not a risk. Though there are issues with the fragile Gaelic-speaking / low-income island communities.

The problem is you have the voters that take the time to look into the parties and work out a rational reason for voting for them. Then you have the ones who are spoon fed the funky new terminology that a party is going with and rehash it online like they came up with it.

@Sloth66

The point is that in a system enabling institutional corruption , an individual such as Johnson, flourishes. Many of these MPs simply believe they are above the law , look at Paterson and now Cox. And I’d be nice nterested to know how many are still employing family members on generous salaries with absolutely no scrutiny or process.

Cox hasn't broken any rules, so I don't think accusing him of believing he is above the law flies. Like many MPs on both sides of the house, he is a lawyer who has continued practising whilst serving as an MP. It is certainly arguable that he hasn't got the balance right, but this is not corruption by any stretch of the imagination. It does, of course, raise the age-old question of whether we should allow MPs to have second jobs.

As of October 2020, there were 70 MPs employing family members. Since 2017, MPs have been banned from employing family members although that ban does not extend to those who were already employed. No MP employs more than one family member. They are paid in line with IPSA pay ranges. To say there is no scrutiny or process is simply wrong.

@Libelula21

It’s the combination of the professional, political and personal amorality which horrified me.

In no real order:

Racist, xenophobic, misogynistic columns

Lying to the Queen for the illegal Prorogation

Gaslighting remarks about making model buses, etc - is he laughing at us?!

Leaving Arcuri alone in the marital home to take selfies - massive security risk, and insult to his wife

Not acknowledging his own children.

Overturning a statute to provide foreign aide through a Government vote.

The humongous Union Jack’s / St George’s flag (the football) everywhere

Never giving interviews on TV

Actively trying to undermine and destabilise the EU / the disgrace of the Northern Ireland Protocol.

£37 billion given to cronies for Test and Trace in England and Wales, and how that’s falsely branded NHS T&T

His callous disregard for life and public health in his handling of coronavirus

The shiftiness over the Mustique and Marbella holidays, the flat redecoration, the £27k worth of donated takeaways.

The laziness, the unkemptness.

Conducting an affair (or two) while his wife is battling cancer.

Signing off on a Withdrawal Agreement he never, ever intended to honour.

Keeping Priti Patel in post after she’d been found to have broken the Ministerial Code (and already been sacked for going rogue).

Dominic Cummings.

I mean. Complete. And. Utter. Charlatan.

As a Scot, especially, it makes me despair. I voted No in 2014, now I’m left feeling that a vote for independence is a vote for the UK values we used to have.

I think people are waking up - but too too slowly.

It will take many more lives to be trashed and damaged by this government's actions before the UK is ready for something better.

In the meantime this does need to be repeatedly, re-posted:

twitter.com/peterstefanovi2/status/1455986139718893572?s=21

If I was a constituent of Cox I would be really furious. How can he have been there for his constituents 4,000 miles away? This was during the difficult times of covid, he could have been seen to be at a vaccine centre, ensuring foodbanks stay open, reassuring his constituents that he would be there to answer calls, representing them in parliament... but no, he shipped his family out to the caribbean and trousered just short of £1M.

I can recognise some posters here that are big supporters of the U.S Democrats. You are either hypocrites or may be do some research as to how Pelosi and that lot made their fortunes? U.K. MP’s are small potatoes compared to that. Be consistent to be taken seriously 😐