To be ashamed of our Sleazebag PM?

[Sean2001]

If it wasn't bad enough, Johnson presiding over the Paterson vote last week ...

He's now refusing to attend the debate today on sleaze/corruption

He also will not allow the sleaze watchdog to look into his flat refurbishment.

Does Johnson actually think this kind of behaviour is impressive?

I find it deeply embarrassing.

@tarasmalatarocks

Well if anyone didn’t think the sight of a drunken asleep slumped PM looking a total state at a major conference last week wasn’t an utter embarrassment, I can only presume they have zero standards for public office , he has zero ideas, zero ability to understand detail and a huge ability to Make sure he appoints only naive sycophants who are so desparate to get on they will go along with any old shit

This is why Johnson is an embarrassment.

I didn’t vote for him.

What sort of upbringing produces this kind of manchild? Home? School? Or both?

I think lack of nurture, love and care creates the base on which arrogance and self entitlement, ignorance, out of touchness, an abyss of empathy etc (all fed through Eton, I guess) grow.

I wonder if public schools encourage this sense of entitlement among their pupils.

Eton teaches them that they are special and superior to the plebs.

He really is a disgrace. Can you imagine him doing a 'proper' job, in the real world? Say, head of a secondary school ? Running it efficiently? I can't. Yet he's in charge of running the country.

Same as his cronies - footage today, during a speech, of JRM struggling to get the top off a bottle of water - OK, could happen to anyone - and getting the guy next to him to do it. The issue is that neither of them gave the person giving the speech (a woman - maybe Priti Patel) who was next to that guy the respect of listening to her.

YANBU. Unfortunately a large number of the electorate have been brainwashed by years of pro Tory propaganda and are swallowing the line that Labour "have no policies" or keir starmer is "bland". Starmer gave a passionate, eloquent and accurate statement to the house today but it won't be reported properly and too many people on here and elsewhere will keep parroting the lines from the Daily Mail commentators.

I sincerely hope for a breakthrough of some kind but people need to start thinking for themselves first. FWIW I'm a Green member. Not Labour.

Yanbu…he’s a psychopathic 🔔🔚

@Thepennysjustdropped

Eton teaches them that they are special and superior to the plebs.

He really is a disgrace. Can you imagine him doing a 'proper' job, in the real world? Say, head of a secondary school ? Running it efficiently? I can't. Yet he's in charge of running the country.

Same as his cronies - footage today, during a speech, of JRM struggling to get the top off a bottle of water - OK, could happen to anyone - and getting the guy next to him to do it. The issue is that neither of them gave the person giving the speech (a woman - maybe Priti Patel) who was next to that guy the respect of listening to her.

I know - I was listening to Johnson blustering away on the radio recently. Maybe today even. I can't remember when. It was empty bluster.

But my point is - I thought at the time, being prime minister must be the highest ambition. Highest of highest perhaps. To some. I used to think it was right at the top of the bean pole. And now ... since Boris Johnson became PM. I see it as a piece of shit job really. Where the person playing prime minister is purely a puppet - and nothing more.

Any of us could do it.

And a doctor, teacher, nurse, vet, dustman, postman, builder, dinner lady, shop assistant - anyone has more respect from me now than the goddam leader of our country.

How is that?

@DirectionToPerfection

The whole "they're all as bad as each other" mantra is infuriating.

No, they really are not.

Perhaps you are not old enough to remember the same accusations being thrown at the Labour Lord Chancellor about the cost of renovations to his official residence. I seem to recall that the cost of the wallpaper was a major concern.

That was under Tony Blair BTW.

@Thepennysjustdropped

Eton teaches them that they are special and superior to the plebs.

He really is a disgrace. Can you imagine him doing a 'proper' job, in the real world? Say, head of a secondary school ? Running it efficiently? I can't. Yet he's in charge of running the country.

Same as his cronies - footage today, during a speech, of JRM struggling to get the top off a bottle of water - OK, could happen to anyone - and getting the guy next to him to do it. The issue is that neither of them gave the person giving the speech (a woman - maybe Priti Patel) who was next to that guy the respect of listening to her.

Can you imagine him doing a 'proper' job, in the real world?

Say as the EU correspondent, or a major columnist of a national newspaper? That line of attack won't work. Johnson, and Starmer, are probably the only two major politicians today who have had a serious career outside politics.

Not sure we can really call Johnson’s time in Brussels for the DT a ‘serious’ job. He himself likened it to throwing rocks over the wall and waiting to hear the crash from the other side.

Johnson’s career has been as an entertainer, paid controversialist, pontificator, TV celeb.

He’s been sacked twice for lying to his bosses, fabricated stories, etc.

There’s nothing serious about his career, literally tens of thousands of people could write as well or better than him, he just had the connections and the brazenness.

Probably his biggest job has been editor of the Spectator, or Sextator, as it was then known. That’s when he pressured his junior colleague into having an abortion after she fell pregnant by him.

Isn't Owen Patterson in a northern seat? I think the by election might swing from Tories. Which will shake them up.

@DirectionToPerfection

The whole "they're all as bad as each other" mantra is infuriating.

No, they really are not.

Yes! It’s just an excuse for indifference and inaction

I maintain that the North Shropshire by election ( Owen Paterson's seat ) will still be won by the conservatives ; he has a huge majority and I just can't see people voting any other way. There is talk of a anti sleaze party standing ( I heard something on the radio the other day , but not sure if this will happen ) but people might be suspicious of their actual policies and the 'shy Tories ' will just vote as they always have done or the majority will just be cut down a bit.
I don't think it'll make many waves.

He is an utter, cowardly, snivelling, slob and arrogant with it. I'm embarrassed to have him as PM. He and his supporters should take note. In this wealthy constituency in the South, the Tory MP could once sit smugly on a majority of thousands. Last election he managed a majority of around 900. And our MP is one of the better ones who still has a sense of decency. Mostly. Waving goodbye next time around.

the 'shy Tories ' will just vote as they always have done or the majority will just be cut down a bit.

But the red wall conservatives in north constituencies can't afford to be cut down a bit or they risk losing the seat, they have small majorities - hence them not being happy with Boris

He is a total embarrassment.

And anyone saying that Starmer and Labour didn't bite back obviously did not have on live the debate on parliamentary standards that lasted 3 hours in the HoC yesterday.

Starmer and many many other labour MPs absolutely wiped the floor with Johnson, Rees-Mogg et al.
They had some very valid points, they knocked down every counter argument, they were very very good.
Unfortunately many tory MPs couldn't be bothered to turn up, as didn't Johnson.,
Rees-Mogg was squirming and wriggling, crestfallen and awkward, as he should've taken the Debate as Leader of the House but he is a coward like is boss Johnson who pratted about in a hospital maskless, in the vain hope that would take the headlines and not the Commons debate.

I’ve been embarrassed by having Johnson as PM since he got in - every catastrophe is no surprise and I can’t keep up with the one thing after another. Whilst all parties have had their issues this is unusual IMO in that there’s a new one at least weekly.
However, I am outraged at him going around a hospital without a mask, and if he has an exemption then he should say. I have to wonder if it is his latest attempt at a dead cat, as this is beyond any idea of acceptable even for the man himself surely.

He put a mask on as soon as the photographs were taken, so not exempt. So just for headlines, distraction from the Tory sleaze debate?

Only 46 out of 365 Conservative MPs have turned up for this debate

I'm surprised it was as many as that; after all many are clearly enjoyng the opportunities for corruption the role offers, so why would they be interested in a "debate" condemning it except to grandstand?

I suppose we could say they're the ones who aren't filling their boots, but personally I'd be looking even more closely into the activities of the attendees

As for Boris's maskless visit to the hospital, he most likely hoped these pics would take some of the heat off the other headline ... as indeed they have

The maskless pictures have added to the heat haven't they?

There was once a time we'd have laughed.

Not anymore.

@Kaibashira

YANBU but don't call it sleaze. That minimises what should be called what it is - institutional corruption.

Absolutely this

The maskless pictures have added to the heat haven't they?

Yes.
It would've worked at one point. Not now. Nor did his Benny Hill impression at G20.
I do hope even his most avid supporters are getting tired of how much of a fool he is. And how he makes us look as a country.

He's a charlatan full of bluster, soundbites and hot air.