So sick of the constant stupid fireworks

[MrsKeats]

When will they hurry up and ban fireworks for private sale?
Have 2 dogs shivering under the sofa. Huge bangs outside. What if you have a baby in bed?
Anti social behaviour if you ask me.
Take your kids to a proper display.

[quote JurgensCakeBaby]@mydogisthebest you clearly haven't lived near my grandparents' neighbours. The council aren't interested, they have 4 dogs; they terrorise local wildlife, including getting hold of a neighborhood cat and literally tearing it apart, growl bark and chase other dogs on the street and in the parks, they bark constantly. The owners don't pick up their faeces, and yes local residents are frightened of them because they are large and aggressive. No not all dogs are like that, but not all home firework displays are problematic and causing local pets to have heart attacks either. I have neither, but I'd sooner someone did something about those dogs than my neighbours' fireworks.[/quote]
I am sorry about your grandparents. My local council take complaints about dogs causing a nuisance very seriously.

You are right that, of course, not all dogs are like that but unfortunately lots and lots of home firework displays are a big problem.

Look at all the posts on here and the posters live in various parts of the country. I know friends that have very loud fireworks going off for weeks in Essex, Surrey, Gloucestershire and Kent. I live in East Midlands and there are loads of posts on local facebook pages complaining about the noise and the fact that children and animals are terrified.

One young healthy dog having a heart attack because of fireworks is wrong but it's not just one. One poor horse being so badly scared she injured herself and has a miscarriage is wrong. Across the country it is probably a large number of dogs and horses plus cats and wildlife. Add to those the elderly, babies, children .

Police, paramedics and fire fighters have all had fireworks thrown at them over the last couple of days.

I would guess that you would rather something was done about the dogs than your neighbours' fireworks because your neighbours' fireworks are not a problem. If everyone was sensible, only had fireworks on 5th November (just why idiots have them on 1st, 2nd, 34d, 4th, 6th, 7th, 8th November or even long I will never know), only let them off at sensible times and not between 3pm and midnight and didn't have the ones that sound like bombs, didn't throw them at people or vehicles, didn't put them through letterboxes then by far the majority of people would not have a problem with them

I'm sure they'll calm down now...it's gone fairly quiet round my way tonight

@Sammy900

I'm sure they'll calm down now...it's gone fairly quiet round my way tonight

Still going on here with enthusiast gusto.

Yes, still going on here, too

Genuine question and not wanting to be goady, but is it not possible to densisitise/train a dog to at least not be quite so anxious around fireworks?

Stick some fireworks noise on alexa and give Hugh value treats and praise so they begin to positively associate it?

Every year I see people massively kicking off about them.and the trauma they cause their pets (and I do know how awful it can be - our old liver spotted dalamtion used to literally climb the walls), but I just think, like other unwanted behaviour it must be possible to train out of them?

I feel more for the wildlife than domesticated pets, at least they have the option to understand it's not as scary as it sounds.

They’re still going off here tonight.

I walked our dog this morning and came across this on the part of the common right behind our cul de sac. It’s hard to gauge the size from the photo but it was at least 3ft by 1ft. (Apologies for the sideways image, it wouldn’t load otherwise).

Someone obviously thought it was acceptable to let it off there and ignored the fact that it was very close to houses, near to farms and stables and on land which is home to wildlife such as deer, badgers, foxes, rabbits and squirrels.

@PollyPepper

Genuine question and not wanting to be goady, but is it not possible to densisitise/train a dog to at least not be quite so anxious around fireworks?

Stick some fireworks noise on alexa and give Hugh value treats and praise so they begin to positively associate it?

Every year I see people massively kicking off about them.and the trauma they cause their pets (and I do know how awful it can be - our old liver spotted dalamtion used to literally climb the walls), but I just think, like other unwanted behaviour it must be possible to train out of them?

I feel more for the wildlife than domesticated pets, at least they have the option to understand it's not as scary as it sounds.

A lot of dogs are desensitised from a young age, like mine was. It only takes one scary experience with a firework to send them into panic mode. Trying to fix that when the fear response is set can be next to impossible. My other dog, who was never ever bothered by fireworks is starting to fear them too just from learning off my other dog.

As for putting firework sounds on for the dog to hear, after the fear is already set sounds a bit cruel to me. Mine aren't able to see the fireworks, so putting them on a speaker would be no different from them hearing them outside.
High value treats mean nothing when they are shaking uncontrollably and in absolute terror. Mine won't even touch ham or beef when in that state.

Couple of mortar type ones just gone off here and woken both the dogs who are currently barking their heads off.

So utterly fed up of fireworks

It feels like groundhog day. More of the same here tonight.

I'd love to know why are people setting off fireworks on the 8th November? Do they need to celebrate that it's dark, a Monday, they ate chips for tea? I'm seriously beginning to think i've missed an announcement of some kind that justifies setting off explosives.

@Whinge

It feels like groundhog day. More of the same here tonight.

I'd love to know why are people setting off fireworks on the 8th November? Do they need to celebrate that it's dark, a Monday, they ate chips for tea? I'm seriously beginning to think i've missed an announcement of some kind that justifies setting off explosives.

Exactly the same here. Alright there are not as many as there were at the latter end of last week but still it's been on and off for a few hours now.

Apparently the only reason needed around here is that the day ends in a 'y'.

Fun sponge

@Whinge

It feels like groundhog day. More of the same here tonight.

I'd love to know why are people setting off fireworks on the 8th November? Do they need to celebrate that it's dark, a Monday, they ate chips for tea? I'm seriously beginning to think i've missed an announcement of some kind that justifies setting off explosives.

Thankfully we haven't heard any tonight.

I think so many people who think fireworks are great are just morons so setting them off any night is ok.

An article in The Mail today was about several dogs that had died of fright over the last couple of days. So so sad.

@TirednWorried

Fun sponge

I'll take that title.

I'd far rather be considered a fun sponge than an inconsiderate selfish twat, which quite honestly is a polite description of how I currently feel about some of my neighbours.

For anyone who is sick of the impact of fireworks on their animals the RSPCA are gathering data. This came from Facebook

STOP PRESS: The RSPCA reporting log has gone live. Please use it to report any problems you have with fireworks/animals as the government need facts and figures before they take any action. Up to now there have been no official figures because no one is collecting and collating the information. This is an official RSPCA initiative to provide government with the information they

^Although it may look like a one off survey it CAN and should be completed EVERY time an animal is affected by fireworks. You can complete it as many times as you need.
^
You can find it on the RSPCA website. From their main page www.rspca.org.uk/ go to the menu and select:
^

• Get Involved
• Campaign
• Fireworks

Then Scroll down the page until you see the green box with "share your story" (almost at the bottom of the page). Click on the "share your fireworks story" button to share^

Could not agree more OP. Are some of them louder than ever or is it just me? We had some insanely loud bangs near us. The DC was up until 10pm as well, thanks to all the noise. Keep them for public displays only and ban private sale.

Also, anyone who thinks it’s okay to scare cats, dogs, horses or other animals for the sake of some crappy explosions in your back garden can fuck right off.

@PollyPepper - I don’t know if dogs can be desensitised to fireworks/thunder - but I am pretty sure that one of our dogs trained the other to become sensitive to them!

Or first dog, a chocolate lab, was so laid back she was horizontal, and didn’t turn a hair at fireworks or thunder. Then we got our rescue pointer lab cross, who absolutely hated them, and would freak out - she trembled with fear, and wanted to spend the entire time perched on the back of the sofa and my head. Gradually she went deaf, and if she didn’t see the fireworks, they didn’t bother her, but ddog1 had watched her getting upset, and she started getting upset by them. She isn’t too fearful, but wants to lie as close to me as possible, preferably wedged in between the couch and the coffee table.

We have tried different things, to help the dogs cope with fireworks and thunder - ddog2 is no longer with us, but we got another rescue dog this year, and she is not terrified of fireworks, but gets a bit scared.

I didn't expect this thread to have started on actual bonfire night. Haha yeah ywbu then. If it was now then they're being unreasonable

Oh yay it's that time of day again the sun has set and guess what... More fucking fireworks!!

More going off here too

Must be Firework Tuesday.

@lololololollll - why is it unreasonable to care about cats, dogs and horses being extremely distressed and upset on Bonfire Night?

My friend’s dog absolutely hates fireworks (he is a rescued bait dog) - he panics and wants to climb up as high as he can, despite her using a thunder shirt, Kalms, and CBD oil to try to help him, and he needed three Xanax to get through the 5th of November this year.

How can she explain to him that he shouldn’t worry about fireworks just because it’s November the 5th? Is a panicking horse not going to panic if they’re told it’s Bonfire Night?

Fireworks cause just as much distress on the 5th as they cause any other day - and we are not being unreasonable to hate the distress of the animals we love. And I’m saying that as someone who used to love watching fireworks (in properly run displays), but thinks the welfare of animals has to be more important than my enjoyment.

@SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius calm down

@TirednWorried
‘Fun’ sponge ??
Really ….yes it is such ‘FUN’ when your cat is so scared it literally shits itself…oh what a good night that was - ‘epic’ even

But if you consider stinky polluted sulphurous air, loud bags and a few split second flashes of colour in the air are ‘fun’ really I feel sorry for you

@fedupwithfireworks

Also, anyone who thinks it’s okay to scare cats, dogs, horses or other animals for the sake of some crappy explosions in your back garden can fuck right off.

100% agree 👏🏼

@Elphame

More going off here too

Must be Firework Tuesday.

I heard a couple earlier. It's the 9th for goodness sake. Such morons