To ask if we can stop dicking about with the clocks?

[ThirdElephant]

Just that, really. I'm up at 4:30 for the second day in a row because of this clock nonsense. Changing bedtime is not adjusting wake-up time, just resulting in a tired infant. Can we all just leave the clocks where they are from now on?

Schoolkids get chauffeured into school anyway

The vast majority at DC1s school don’t actually.

@amitoooldforthisshit

Those asking if you get paid for the "extra hour", no you don't because you got paid for the hour you didn't work when the clocks went forward.

I was never scheduled to work nights both clock change nights so have often worked the clock back night but I think only once worked the clocks forward night 😠😠😠

I'm with you! The reasons why we did this just aren't applicable in the 21st Century. We have technology, we aren't all farmworkers, we have a 24/7 society. If anyone wants to see more daylight then just get up/go to bed when the sun does (IYSWIM). There are countries that don't do this stupidity for goodness’ sake!

Iceland manage their very few daylight hours just fine. Why can't we manage a dark morning? We would all get used to it after a few days and then wouldn't really notice it in the following years I don't think!

I much prefer it when they go back, it’s too dark for too long in the morning otherwise. Psychologically I find it much harder to get up and go to work in the dark than I do to leave work and come home in the dark.

I’m not a farmer or in Scotland.

If the clocks don't change, my kids would be going to school in the dark, and I'm understandably not that keen on them walking to school, waiting for buses and crossing roads in the dark.

I feel discombobulated and tired when the flicks go forward. I love the extra hour in bed. I wake at the usual time and then realise I can have more sleep.

@Amberflames

Schoolkids get chauffeured into school anyway

The vast majority at DC1s school don’t actually.

Agree, they don’t.

I sympathise but am happy it is lighter for my dc's daily walk to school.

I want to permanently stay on BST. Plunging us into darkness for a smattering of light for a couple of weeks in the morning is daft. It obstructs children playing outdoors/ sports after school, but they still end up going to school in the dark by December anyway, and the effect only seems to last for about two weeks.

I prefer using my sunrise clocks than hoping some daylight penetrates the winter gloom.

YABU. I’m not even in the north of Scotland and because the clocks went back, it’s now sunrise just after 7am here so we get to delay the whole “going to work and coming home in the dark”. Yes, it’s sunset at half 4, but it’s worth it to not have sunrise after half 9 in 7 weeks time. The earliest the sun ever goes down is 15:40 for us.

I’m sure they had a trial where they didn’t change them one year. My mum has said about it, she said it was horrible.

My kids seem to adjust well and my 8 week old baby seems to be doing ok ( night wake ups are regular). I prefer the lighter mornings with getting the kids ready for school. Not everyone drives, we walk and take the bus so it helps.

@HalloHello

Iceland manage their very few daylight hours just fine. Why can't we manage a dark morning? We would all get used to it after a few days and then wouldn't really notice it in the following years I don't think!

There are only 2-3 daylight in Iceland by December, there’s nothing they can do to make this better anyway.

Cows are milked 24/7 now. A big herd near us has so many that once the “morning” milking is done it’s time to start the “evening” milking. Lots have automatic parlours too. Don’t think daylight saving affects them.

Na mate, daylight savings is awesome down here, can hit the beach after work & it’s still warm!

I'm in Queensland and we don't change them. It's good, although it's annoying because so many other states do change them so it means the time difference between states changes depending on what time of year it is.

I do live in the Highland’s and am very grateful for a little more daylight in the morning we’ll apart from today it’s been dark and wet all weekend.
I don’t think it’s just for farmers it’s to generally optimise the amount of daylight we all get and the further north we are the less we already get in the winter anyway.

So I sort of get why we might want the clocks back now for lighter mornings, but why do we want them forward in the Spring when it’s starting to be light all the time anyway? Why can’t we just stay on this time and stop switching back and forth?

Quite relieved other people also up at circa 4am too with children. DC2 has just fallen asleep for his nap which is supposed to be at 9am so god knows how this day is going to play out 😢 also can’t change bedside table clock so keep looking at it in the night thinking things are going well then realising they are not

Farmers don't work by the clock anyway, they just go by when it's light outside, and you can't increase daylight hours however you shift the clocks around.
I thought it was for school children mostly. Lots walk round here, plus we're rural and lacking in street lamps.
In the depths of winter it's light from 8-4 here so it just about encompasses school hours.

Anyway I love it because my children are tired at bedtime now and it's a reasonable time!

I love the extra hour! I look forward to this!

It's a chance to get my kids going to bed earlier too.

Argh agree! Up since 4.30 today. There’s something about being up after 5am that seems much more bearable than before 5am. Such a long day ahead! I’ve always thought they should stop this even before I had my LO though - dark at 4pm in the middle of winter is just horrible.

@Exhausted5487

Oh that's rubbish - do you get paid for the extra hour you do?!

I didn't used to! So unfair!

I think there was some kind f petition to parliament about ths a while ago. Not sure what happened to it. I would happily sign a new incarnation!