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To think a 95 year-old woman slowing down is not that shocking?

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WomanStanleyWoman · 26/10/2021 23:20

Regardless of whether you are in favour of a royal family or not… is it really a shocker, or a crisis, that a 95 year-old woman is slowing down somewhat and missing engagements?

I personally am in favour of the royal family, and I hope nothing is seriously wrong with the Queen. But it’s not like she hasn’t been seen in months and there’s some great conspiracy to keep the reason a secret. She’s had one night in hospital and missed one engagement. She’s 95. Someone not having a few health problems at that age is a news story!

I know people are interested in royal stories, but realistically, ‘old woman not as young as she used to be’ isn’t news. For at least 25 years now, it’s been made clear the Queen won’t abdicate, but will hand over more responsibilities to Charles and, increasingly, William. Unless something major or out of ordinary happens, we don’t need a running commentary.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/10/2021 13:46

Poor Prince Charles. He will only get a 'proper' job when he is already an old man

I wouldn't waste too much sympathy; he appears to feel sorry enough for himself without anyone else adding to it
Just as well for the institution (and probably something the Queen realises) that though he'll almost certainly become King, it won't be for very long

I can just about see them timing an annoucement so HM's death makes the morning news (again!!) but as for the idea she's already gone, wouldn't that be just too big a secret to keep in today's SM world?

VladmirsPoutine · 27/10/2021 13:50

It would be amazing for the monarchy to be abolished once the queen dies. Can you imagine Charles and William turning up to a job the next morning wondering why nobody's brought them a cup of tea on a diamond encrusted pillow case.

Aposterhasnoname · 27/10/2021 13:54

[quote Dreamstate]@Aposterhasnoname

LOLLLL HILARIOUS

And 4 days after that article you googled there have been multiple articles about how her income won't drop

So why don't you do proper research instead of accusing me of spoiling out shite. Perhaps you shouldn't spout out shit instead. Clearly a royalist that you are you are more than happy to defend this disgusting and utterly vile act. People through no fault of their own lost jobs, incomes, livelihoods. Some lost profits barely breaking even, noone topping them up and furlough wasn't enough for most either.

But my god the queen whose profits dipped 4% is bailed out to ensure she gets all her profits. And she could of said no. But she didn't.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/queen-bailout-coronavirus-sovereign-grant-royal-family-b572508.html[/quote]
And in the very same paper, the very next day

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/queen-coronavirus-budget-crown-estate-buckingham-palace-tourism-b595534.html?amp

WeAreTheHeroes · 27/10/2021 13:54

[quote julieca]@Bouledeneige Charles is rumoured to be a heavy drinker. No idea if that is true or not although the rosacea does suggest that. If yes, he is unlikely to live anywhere near as long as his mother.[/quote]
You can have rosacea without drinking you know.

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 27/10/2021 13:58

The female ancestors do rather well though, especially considering historic life expectancy. Queen Mary, Queen Alexandra and Queen Victoria all lived into their 80s, with Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother living to 101.

julieca · 27/10/2021 14:00

@WeAreTheHeroes Yes I know you can, but it is a common cause. Doesn't have to be an alcoholic level of alcohol that will do it, half a bottle of wine a night for years is enough.

CounsellorTroi · 27/10/2021 14:02

@Dreamstate

Ha at her hard work and dedication to public duty...what public duty? Was it public duty when we bailed her out so she can keep her income the same during covid whilst her subjects suffered?

She couldn't have spoken up and said no, I'll take a 4% hit its the right thing to do, we are all in it together. Did she fuck. Then we had them all preaching to us saying we are all in I together and to support each other and be kind blah blah blah. Hyprocrisy at its finest.

Can’t say I liked the Queen Mother much but she did have the right idea during the war not buggering off to Balmoral or wherever.
Butteredtoast55 · 27/10/2021 14:04

What a deeply unpleasant and distasteful thread (well the first and last pages at least)

JinglingHellsBells · 27/10/2021 14:07

There are a lot of professional mind readers here, all knowing what the Queen thinks of Charles.

Honestly, in the UK the sovereign, with one exception, never abdicates or appoints anyone else to do their role.

The Queen will carry on until she dies. She has made that clear over many years.

She may reduce her public appearances, but she won't abdicate.

All the suggestions here of what she may do (otherwise) are a fantasy.

JinglingHellsBells · 27/10/2021 14:09

Can’t say I liked the Queen Mother much but she did have the right idea during the war not buggering off to Balmoral or wherever.
What a strange comment.

The Queen has a holiday in Balmoral in the summer.

As far as I know there has not been another World War since 1945.

CounsellorTroi · 27/10/2021 14:12

@JinglingHellsBells

Can’t say I liked the Queen Mother much but she did have the right idea during the war not buggering off to Balmoral or wherever. What a strange comment.

The Queen has a holiday in Balmoral in the summer.

As far as I know there has not been another World War since 1945.

I think you missed the word Mother in my comment. I was not referring to the current Queen.
Rosebel · 27/10/2021 14:22

@jamandmarmalade

Blimey!

Maj's 2021
endured 'disappointing' Harry and Meghan Oprah interview
turned 95
lost her 'Strength and Stay' true love of her life husband weeks before his 100th birthday
welcomed ninth great grandchild
watched her favourite son Andrew dodge the slammer

i'm middle aged and i'd want a rest after that year never mind the Queen at 95.

Poor Queen!

I thought this. I wouldn't be surprised if she's either suffering stress or simply exhausted. Harry, Meghan and Andrew have all behaved terribly and wasn't Charles in trouble for something recently too? Then of course she lost her husband and I really believe he was her tower of strength and soul mate. She's certainly looked older since PP died. Of course she could be dead. I hope not but she's not going to live forever. At the moment perhaps she'd rather die than have to deal with her family.
RuggerHug · 27/10/2021 14:24

This is bizarre. Also posted comparing Harry and Megan to Andrew? Really?

JingsMahBucket · 27/10/2021 14:40

@RuggerHug seriously! People comparing a grandson moving to another country with his wife to a potential son who's possibly and quite likely a pedophile. Some people are really bitter about Harry leaving and it shows.

julieca · 27/10/2021 14:42

@CounsellorTroi they were going to leave the country. But there was massive public ill-feeling and they had to reverse it. My gran said people were absolutely furious. It was after major public backlash that they started visiting people whose homes had been bombed out.
There is lots of attempts to rewrite history over the RF. Like on MN some saying it would have been better if the Spencers had been allowed to have a private funeral for Diana. When at the time the Spencers were adamant they did not want a private service, it was the RF who wanted that.
The RF during the war did manage to turn things around and get public support after adopting an - we are all in this together pr. It is reported that they were actually relieved when the Palace suffered some slight bombing as this helped their pr.
I couldn't stand Philip, but I think he did help them as he recognised that they could not take their position for granted and did have to listen to the public.

CounsellorTroi · 27/10/2021 14:44

[quote julieca]@CounsellorTroi they were going to leave the country. But there was massive public ill-feeling and they had to reverse it. My gran said people were absolutely furious. It was after major public backlash that they started visiting people whose homes had been bombed out.
There is lots of attempts to rewrite history over the RF. Like on MN some saying it would have been better if the Spencers had been allowed to have a private funeral for Diana. When at the time the Spencers were adamant they did not want a private service, it was the RF who wanted that.
The RF during the war did manage to turn things around and get public support after adopting an - we are all in this together pr. It is reported that they were actually relieved when the Palace suffered some slight bombing as this helped their pr.
I couldn't stand Philip, but I think he did help them as he recognised that they could not take their position for granted and did have to listen to the public.[/quote]
That’s interesting, thank you!

WeAreTheHeroes · 27/10/2021 14:45

[quote julieca]@WeAreTheHeroes Yes I know you can, but it is a common cause. Doesn't have to be an alcoholic level of alcohol that will do it, half a bottle of wine a night for years is enough.[/quote]
I have rosacea and barely drink - horrified to think anyone would think it is because of alcohol consumption.

julieca · 27/10/2021 14:49

@WeAreTheHeroes I did not say it is always caused by alcohol, but it is the most common cause.
And it has been reported Charles is fond of a drink. And the Queen and Queen Mother both drank alcohol every day, not common for women of their generation. I cant see that causing any issues for them, but it does demonstrate that drinking alcohol in their family is normal.

tempchecked · 27/10/2021 14:51

I wish her well and hope she is just resting as advised.

However, when she goes, does anyone think that the respect and reverence many have for the Queen will dissipate with Charles as King? I personally think that with SM and all that, and the fact that he is NOT the queen that some (many) may not have the same respect and go for him with impunity. What can he do about that really?

The changing of the guard at Buckingham Palace whenever it happens will I think change the way people think about the monarchy, and they may feel much more free to question things with Charles on the throne. The times they are a changing.

julieca · 27/10/2021 14:54

And the Netlfix drama of Martin Bashirs interview will be screened soon, along with the next series of the Crown.
Its not going to encourage respect seeing an actor playing Charles saying to Camilla that he wishes he was a tampax up inside her.

zingally · 27/10/2021 14:55

I know! It's ridiculous! She's 95, and recently widowed! She's allowed to slow down, look a little out-of-sorts, or - heaven forbid! - die!

She's 95!!!

WeAreTheHeroes · 27/10/2021 14:55

[quote julieca]@WeAreTheHeroes I did not say it is always caused by alcohol, but it is the most common cause.
And it has been reported Charles is fond of a drink. And the Queen and Queen Mother both drank alcohol every day, not common for women of their generation. I cant see that causing any issues for them, but it does demonstrate that drinking alcohol in their family is normal.[/quote]
Right: you are wrong and blanket statements like that do those of us who have rosacea down and are misinformation. Alcohol can trigger a flare up, but the cause of rosacea is unknown. There are four types of rosacea btw and it's thought to be an autoimmune response.

ancientgran · 27/10/2021 15:21

[quote JingsMahBucket]@RuggerHug seriously! People comparing a grandson moving to another country with his wife to a potential son who's possibly and quite likely a pedophile. Some people are really bitter about Harry leaving and it shows.[/quote]
One is a fact the other is an accusation so no they aren't the same but both difficult for the mother/grandmother.

WomanStanleyWoman · 27/10/2021 15:33

@VladmirsPoutine

It would be amazing for the monarchy to be abolished once the queen dies. Can you imagine Charles and William turning up to a job the next morning wondering why nobody's brought them a cup of tea on a diamond encrusted pillow case.
I love comments like this. ‘Abolish the monarchy when the Queen dies’ - as if it’s a) a popularity contest, and we can just get rid of the lot if we don’t like one of them and b) it would happen the minute the cortège left Buck House. It could take decades! Plus, if it did happen, it wouldn’t be planned around the current monarch’s death. As this thread is testament to, that could happen tomorrow, or it could happen in ten years.
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VladmirsPoutine · 27/10/2021 15:37

OP, I was being facetious, I know it absolutely won't happen not in my lifetime or those of my children's children's children even. Much of the population thoroughly enjoys living under subjugation.

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