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To think a 95 year-old woman slowing down is not that shocking?

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WomanStanleyWoman · 26/10/2021 23:20

Regardless of whether you are in favour of a royal family or not… is it really a shocker, or a crisis, that a 95 year-old woman is slowing down somewhat and missing engagements?

I personally am in favour of the royal family, and I hope nothing is seriously wrong with the Queen. But it’s not like she hasn’t been seen in months and there’s some great conspiracy to keep the reason a secret. She’s had one night in hospital and missed one engagement. She’s 95. Someone not having a few health problems at that age is a news story!

I know people are interested in royal stories, but realistically, ‘old woman not as young as she used to be’ isn’t news. For at least 25 years now, it’s been made clear the Queen won’t abdicate, but will hand over more responsibilities to Charles and, increasingly, William. Unless something major or out of ordinary happens, we don’t need a running commentary.

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User57327259 · 27/10/2021 09:51

The Queen joined the ATS during the WWII. I think she takes her duties very seriously. She has served us well.
I think the real problem is that there is no-one with as much commitment as she has to take over from her.
Her generation are known as "the greatest generation". There is good reason they are called that. They lived through the aftermath of the WWI, the depression years of 1930s, then they served in WWII, and lived through the aftermath of that. I can not see today's generations going through all that willingly or even being forcibly enlisted. They had/have great strength.
It will be a very bad day when we lose the Queen

CounsellorTroi · 27/10/2021 09:52

Have always thought that the Queen won't abdicate because of her memories of the abdication of Edward VIII and the terrible burden it placed on her father. I think for her, being monarch is a duty and not one to be set down just because it is difficult.

The circumstances are completely different though. She is 95 years old with already a lifetime of duty behind her. She has a (very) ready and willing heir who is already in his 70s. (And whatever our opinion of him we cannot be certain that she shares it.)

CounsellorTroi · 27/10/2021 09:54

But her dad died at 56. Her paternal grandad died at 70.

They both smoked themselves to death. The Queen has never smoked.

campion · 27/10/2021 09:57

But no its not odd for a 95 year old to be slowing down. Afertall most 95 year olds are dead

I think you still have to be alive to celebrate a 95th birthday. Some are in advanced states of decrepitude, but definitely alive.

I think the Queen is good for a bit longer. She just needs to take it easier but, if I were her, I'd keep having the rumoured nightly champagne.

DameMaureen · 27/10/2021 09:59

@Bouledeneige

I think she's actually dead and they're waiting for COP26 to be over before announcing. The BBC were doing one of their regular 'London Bridge' rehearsals last week.

But no its not odd for a 95 year old to be slowing down. Afertall most 95 year olds are dead.

Nasty .
lollipoprainbow · 27/10/2021 10:00

If she was actually dead she'd hardly be on a zoom call yesterday!!

MarshaBradyo · 27/10/2021 10:01

@lollipoprainbow

If she was actually dead she'd hardly be on a zoom call yesterday!!
Apart from being an off comment below, yes that might be a factor
Hadjab · 27/10/2021 10:07

@WhereWeAreNow

Ofc it's not unreasonable for her to take a step back.

But I do wonder about what's coming next.

What’s to wonder? Old woman dies, son takes over family job.
ancientgran · 27/10/2021 10:08

@lljkk

It comes across as a big lack of confidence in PC that she doesn't make PC into Prince Regent. But she's had a hard year with loss of PP, maybe could be harder than ever to step down from public life. Anyone recall her sitting away from family at PP's funeral? :(
I think it is more to do with the families feelings about her uncle abdicating. Her mother in particular had very strong views on it so I think she probably feels she took the oath and she has to see it through.

She sat on her own at the funeral because those were the pandemic rules.

Obviously none of us know what she thinks of PC or her uncle.

ancientgran · 27/10/2021 10:09

@CounsellorTroi

But her dad died at 56. Her paternal grandad died at 70.

They both smoked themselves to death. The Queen has never smoked.

And one of them had a bit of assistance from a doctor or so they say.
ElvisPresleyHadABaby · 27/10/2021 10:25

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puffyisgood · 27/10/2021 10:32

Yep, her departure is long overdue.

In the fawning scramble to congratulate her every last utterance people often seem to forget that she's in charge of the RF and has to be held accountable for it, with anything that's bad about it reflecting badly on her.

She reminds me of a specialist or middle manager overpromoted into a really senior role, excellent at the 'day job' aspects of being a royal [which in royal terms, other than smiling/waving and taking lots of holidays I suppose just means avoiding excessive consumption or other scandal, never voicing an opinion on anything] but who does't have any interest in, or aptitude for, actually leading.

godmum56 · 27/10/2021 10:38

@thenewduchessofhastings

I don't know why the media think we need to be told about the queens health;I think anyone with abit of common sense will know that a 95 year old person is naturally going to be suffering from age related things like slowing down,easily tiring,developing some mobility issues that might need a mobility aid such as a walking stick and being more susceptible to illnesses as their immune system won't be as strong as it use to be.

I wouldn't be surprised if following her next jubilee celebration if she retires and quite rightly so;not only would she have served as regent for 80 years she'd been serving as a royal for several years prior to that doing engagements etc

she won't retire or abdicate. ill health may considerably limit her activities but on many occasions she has ruled out retirement or abdication.
Aposterhasnoname · 27/10/2021 11:28

@ElvisPresleyHadABaby

I lost sympathy for her once she protected her son who raped children. She has daughters, and granddaughters, I expect better. Hard to feel sorry for someone sat in a huge palace with the best of everything imaginable, she will get ill and die with the best painkillers and healthcare in the world.
There isn’t a single shred of evidence that Andrew has raped children. I’d get that removed if I were you. The royals have bloody good lawyers.
VladmirsPoutine · 27/10/2021 11:51

I have been beside myself laughing at this morning's commentary e.g. on Jeremy Vine show about how she's 'worked bloody hard', has a selfless 'sense of duty', must be 'utterly exhausted'. People are really not normal on this Island. How is she retiring!?

SilverBirchWithout · 27/10/2021 11:53

Surely they'll have to go ahead with the extra long weekend regardless now, people will have already booked holidays etc
Don’t worry, it will no doubt be turned into some sort of celebration of her life! Wouldn’t want to impact the holiday industry Hmm
Still a good choice for a holiday to escape all the flag waving Wink

DameMaureen · 27/10/2021 12:07

@ancientgran

And one of them had a bit of assistance from a doctor or so they say

What is the point you are making here ?

23minutesfromTulseHill · 27/10/2021 12:10

That time of death was engineered with a view to the news cycle (i.e. which papers it would be reported in first)?

TSSDNCOP · 27/10/2021 12:11

She is making the point that George V was euthanised by his doctor before midnight so his death could be announced in that morning's papers.

DameMaureen · 27/10/2021 12:18

@TSSDNCOP

She is making the point that George V was euthanised by his doctor before midnight so his death could be announced in that morning's papers.
Blimey!
TSSDNCOP · 27/10/2021 12:26

Its a good job I'm not, but if I was HM I'd leave it until the week before the Jubilee and cancel the extra day off. That'll stick it to all the gleeful "pop her cloggers".

Aposterhasnoname · 27/10/2021 12:36

@VladmirsPoutine

I have been beside myself laughing at this morning's commentary e.g. on Jeremy Vine show about how she's 'worked bloody hard', has a selfless 'sense of duty', must be 'utterly exhausted'. People are really not normal on this Island. How is she retiring!?
Well don’t know about you, but when I’m retired I won’t be wading though 2 hours of paperwork a day, then making nice to an endless stream of boring twats, and trying to make polite conversation with each one.

Nor will I be turning up at hundreds of various assorted events per year, which don’t especially interest me, make nice to yet more complete strangers, and pretend that their new machine for making union jacks or whatever, is the most fascinating thing I’ve ever seen. Or biting my tongue while listening to the likes of Trump make a twat of himself. All while being on my feet for hours, and having cameras stuck on my face.

A few years ago I had to present a trophy on behalf of work, for a competition for something I had no interest in, let’s say it was poetry (it wasn’t that). I had to listen intently to endless poems, clap politely after each one, then make a comment about each, so no chance of pretending to listen while secretly planning my next holiday. I was beyond knackered when I got home. I bet she’d love to spend the day on the sofa watching daytime tv and devouring a king size bar of dairy milk.

Dreamstate · 27/10/2021 12:57

Ha at her hard work and dedication to public duty...what public duty? Was it public duty when we bailed her out so she can keep her income the same during covid whilst her subjects suffered?

She couldn't have spoken up and said no, I'll take a 4% hit its the right thing to do, we are all in it together. Did she fuck. Then we had them all preaching to us saying we are all in I together and to support each other and be kind blah blah blah. Hyprocrisy at its finest.

Aposterhasnoname · 27/10/2021 13:37

@Dreamstate

Ha at her hard work and dedication to public duty...what public duty? Was it public duty when we bailed her out so she can keep her income the same during covid whilst her subjects suffered?

She couldn't have spoken up and said no, I'll take a 4% hit its the right thing to do, we are all in it together. Did she fuck. Then we had them all preaching to us saying we are all in I together and to support each other and be kind blah blah blah. Hyprocrisy at its finest.

At least do some cursory googling before you start spouting that shit.

www.itv.com/news/2020-09-24/the-queens-finances-suffer-a-multi-million-pound-drop-due-to-coronavirus

Dreamstate · 27/10/2021 13:44

@Aposterhasnoname

LOLLLL HILARIOUS

And 4 days after that article you googled there have been multiple articles about how her income won't drop

So why don't you do proper research instead of accusing me of spoiling out shite. Perhaps you shouldn't spout out shit instead. Clearly a royalist that you are you are more than happy to defend this disgusting and utterly vile act. People through no fault of their own lost jobs, incomes, livelihoods. Some lost profits barely breaking even, noone topping them up and furlough wasn't enough for most either.

But my god the queen whose profits dipped 4% is bailed out to ensure she gets all her profits. And she could of said no. But she didn't.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/queen-bailout-coronavirus-sovereign-grant-royal-family-b572508.html

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