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Why aren’t you obese?

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Spottyphonecase24 · 26/10/2021 14:11

A bit of a weird one but I have just got off a zoom call with my therapist. We were talking about my weight (I am obese).

Why isn’t everyone else obese? What stops you? I don’t seem to have an off button. I remember going from a 10 to a 12 and thinking that’s it I’m not going to get any bigger but I did and now I am in a size 24 and they are getting a bit tight. I’ve read lots about how people have their light bulb moment to lose weight and that has not happened to me, or maybe it has and I’ve ignored it.

What stops you eating a tub of icecream or picking up a large bar of chocolate instead of a small one or one bag of crisps instead of a family size bag?

I honestly don’t know the reasons why people don’t eat more. Is it will power, feeling full?

OP posts:
Sosososotired · 26/10/2021 15:41

For me it's portion control. I don't like feeling full so I eat until I'm comfortable. I've also overcome a sugar addiction so feel the need to snack a lot less as blood sugar is more stable.

Mulhollandmagoo · 26/10/2021 15:43

I've recently embarked on a mission to lose weight, and I must confess giving myself something to do on an evening has helped loads - currently knitting 😂

SueSaid · 26/10/2021 15:43

' I only wish I could recogise that myself.'

You can recognise it yourself. Aim for what, 1600 calories a day 2000 max?

Many people don't feel 'full' but understand that cakes crisps biscuits and desserts eaten in excess will make you fat.

Be proactive rather than moaning that you 'wished you could recognise' that you'd had plenty to eat.

Morgan12 · 26/10/2021 15:44

@Seaswell

I listened to an interview with Zoe Harcombe where she talked about carb addiction. Unlike with drugs/smoking/ drinking you can't just give up food. But she pointed out how when we binge, it's rarely on vegetables or eggs or meat/fish- they just aren't addictive in the way that carby/sugary foods are. So my answer to my own addiction was to go cold turkey on everything but meat/fish/eggs/ veg (except potatoes and beans) Even fruit is considered a 'gateway drug' to someone addicted to sugar. It took less than a week to lose the cravings (felt like shite for a few days mind!) I simply can't have just a bit of anything like bread or sweets or ice cream - like you I'm all or nothing.

I fall off the wagon every now and again but I know how to get back on it now.

Are you not miserable?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 26/10/2021 15:44

@Spottyphonecase24

A bit of a weird one but I have just got off a zoom call with my therapist. We were talking about my weight (I am obese).

Why isn’t everyone else obese? What stops you? I don’t seem to have an off button. I remember going from a 10 to a 12 and thinking that’s it I’m not going to get any bigger but I did and now I am in a size 24 and they are getting a bit tight. I’ve read lots about how people have their light bulb moment to lose weight and that has not happened to me, or maybe it has and I’ve ignored it.

What stops you eating a tub of icecream or picking up a large bar of chocolate instead of a small one or one bag of crisps instead of a family size bag?

I honestly don’t know the reasons why people don’t eat more. Is it will power, feeling full?

Been morbidly obese, been underweight and all in between.

It's about how you feel.

What is the perceived benefit to you of being larger?

Is it that it helps you swallow down feelings of resentment, fear, loneliness? Is it better to look 'less attractive to men' because they've been the source of a load of trauma in the past?

Is it because you've been told since you were little that nobody would ever love you because you're fat, stupid and ugly and there seemed little point in denying yourself anything/you wanted to tell yourself that actually, you did deserve the things you were forbidden?

Could it be that the physical response to carbs/high fat and sugar foods - the calming, the insulin spike, the feeling full is a substitute for an absence of human touch or affection?

Have you experienced extreme poverty and not being able to guarantee where the next meal is coming from, so you're making up for it in advance?

Could it be that you're craving things vaguely connected to what you actually have deficiencies in? So whilst you're, say, tired because you're anaemic, you're having larger quantities of chocolate because the sugar and fat and cocoa content gives you a slight boost?

Is your fight/flight/freeze response stuck because you can't see your way out of a stressful situation, so the answer is to eat those high fat/carb foods to soothe and convince you that there's not really an intolerable situation that you need to get out of - because you are currently paralysed by fear?

Once you identify the benefits your mind sees in being larger and eating those additional foods, you can challenge them with the benefits of not being larger or having the extra food/snacks.

For example:

Eating to squash down feelings of being trapped and hopeless. That's your fight/flight/freeze response. What it's telling you is that you want to escape. Well, what's the best way to escape - cake and crisps in front of the TV whilst your mind is still screaming at you RUN AWAY - or actually running?

To protect your joints, actually running could be risky in terms of injury right now - but physical activity, moving your body safely, feels the same to your unconscious brain; swimming, for example. Can't eat whilst you're swimming. It strengthens the large muscles in your legs and torso, which makes it easier to move around on land. Gives an endorphin hit. Get a bit lighter, bit stronger, bit happier, perhaps you find that running feels really good after the initial oh shit I'm dying here feeling. Fight/Flight/Freeze is fulfilled by the physical actions, so you feel calmer.

Satisfy that basic survival impulse by action, have some freebie endorphins, lose a little stress - ah, I don't really fancy buying biscuits today; Oooh, those strawberries look lovely - they'd be a real treat!

What are the benefits to you of being slimmer?

Not the overarching ones of saving taxpayers' money or being viewed as a better person, they're bollocks. The specific benefits to you - what exactly is it that you want to do that being this size makes harder or impossible?

I love running. To be able to run, run further, run in more challenging and attractive terrain, run faster and not permanently damage myself in the process, I need to be lighter. So I make choices that support that, choices where I eat what I love rather than what has a sedating effect upon me, choice that support bone and muscle repair, the transport of oxygen around my body, foods that don't more than cancel out the energy I've expended.

I overtook DP for the first time yesterday. That felt damn good. I taught him to do bridges and he found it really difficult, whilst I can do them easily. That made me feel good. I foam rollered my calves this morning. Ow. Still feel good, even though I'm not entirely convinced I haven't gone completely mad at the time I'm doing it - because I will feel much better next time I go for a run or reach down to pick something up.

In short, the benefit to me of being slimmer is that I am able to do things that really make me feel happy, confident and more able to cope with physical and mental stressors. Which far outweighs the benefits my brain believed I had from eating too much or foods that stifled my emotions. So I eat fewer calories, I eat more healthily, I eat the foods that I enjoy without guilt or self recrimination. And I lose weight.

DarlingFell · 26/10/2021 15:44

Vanity.

Sheer unadulterated vanity.

Its a battle, I’m 47 and on meds that make it hard to lose weight. Plus I have the appetite of a trucker. I bloody love food 🤐

1forAll74 · 26/10/2021 15:46

You can easily train yourself to stop eating so much stuff, and all the wrong types of food as in junk food etc.. You need to have serious thoughts, about health problems, now, and in the future, as being obese causes all sorts of nasty health issues.

People can get truly addicted, to what they call comfort eating, as there is so much crap around to tempt them. Its all an unnecessary food upload.

People need willpower to cut down their food intake, and not be in the mindset, thinking, that they must eat all the things that they love, or fancy all the time.

SueSaid · 26/10/2021 15:46

'People who are slim are not virtuous they just have a combination of diet, genetics and environment that makes their set point lower.'

Bollocks.

Yes when younger maybe but once we get older we can't eat what we like even if we do have good 'genetics'.

If I ate what I liked I'd could easily be a size 16 but i don't want to be fat so I don't.

Jurassicparkinajug · 26/10/2021 15:48

I'm more driven to stay slim than I am bothered about food if I'm honest. Being slim gives me confidence (probably an unhealthy attitude).
I also don't have a sweet tooth which helps a lot.

JetRocket · 26/10/2021 15:49

@Spottyphonecase24

I was a size 22 in my late teens. I did massively over eat and I wasn’t happy. I felt out of control.
Age 20 I decided I wanted to change; I lost it all and have never been over a size 12 since. I’m currently a very lean 8-10.

I are Cadbury’s and milky buttons for breakfast. I don’t limit the sweets I eat. I don’t stress about being ‘good’ or withhold anything. I just made sure I was really busy.

Get out of the house, make plans, volunteer, join clubs, get involved with family and friends. Just do your best to avoid sitting around eating or fixating on food. I have a baby and a toddler atm so I’m run off my feet. I eat awfully, pizza, chocolate, chips…etc (with good stuff mixed in too) but I don’t eat a large quantity because I just don’t get chance and I’m active so I burn it off.

There is nothing worse than a diet you’re painfully aware you’re on and being miserable because you can’t have what you want xx

Seaswell · 26/10/2021 15:51

Are you not miserable?

No, @Morgan12, because I'm no longer craving sweet stuff and junk, so I appreciate really good food and plenty of it. Food is no longer controlling me, I only feel hungry when I actually am hungry, if that makes sense.
I eat really well, and see food as a pleasure.

What did make me miserable was craving food that made me bloated, lethargic and irritable, and not being able to stop eating it.

RedMarauder · 26/10/2021 15:52

Since late teenage years I've done regular exercise and sport. To exercise regularly without feeling crap you have to eat properly. If I ate the things you mentioned and exercised an hour or even the next morning afterwards I would feel crap.

Incidentally when I don't exercise regularly I put on weight as I then eat poorly. My trick is not to allow a period of inactivity to go on.

In addition 2 of the items would give me stomach/bowel discomfort to differing to degrees so the first I avoid completely and the second I eat sparingly. The last item, crisps, I don't crave at all probably due to the food I grew up around. So some of the things people mentioned e.g. not putting sugar in hot drinks was normal growing up.

Lollyneenah · 26/10/2021 15:52

Vanity here too, if I'm being completely honest. I would love to eat garlic bread and pork belly and sticky toffee pudding with custard. But if I eat those things I get pudgy and I feel less attractive.
I also hate cardio Grin so I have to keep my weight down by diet rather than exercise.

Oh4Tunas · 26/10/2021 15:52

For me, these days I feel physically ill if I eat past a certain amount, which is a strong deterrent. Unfortunately, that still leaves plenty of opportunity to eat more than I need (or unhealthy options), so while I'm not obese, I'm still overweight.

I do better when I just stop buying certain things (trigger foods, things I like a little too much, that are very unhealthy, etc.) or only buy a very limited amount of "junk", and once that's gone, it's gone until the next week. (Only works if you don't/can't stop by the shop every day!) Honestly, though, it's easier if it's just not even an option.

I also need to have other (enjoyable) things I can do instead of snacking, since food can become a hobby for me! I eat when I'm bored, so I need to stay busy.

ColinTheKoala · 26/10/2021 15:53

I have a big appetite, so I do lots of exercise.

However, I tend to snack on healthy things, eg I am sitting here at the moment munching on a carrot - it helps that I actually like them (and tomatoes). And I'll have homemade soup for dinner (having also had it for lunch). But I have also eaten some crisps and sweets today.

The other thing is not to have things in the house. I have sweets that are wrapped so I can say I have eg 4 a day. Much easier to regulate than something like fruit pastilles. Don't have biscuits. Only drink 4-5 glasses of wine a week. We do have chocolate but we share as a treat.

I was a stone heavier in my 20s.

teatime9999 · 26/10/2021 15:53

My favourite thing is crisps, and I can take out an entire sharing bag in 15 minutes (if I'm trying to be slow and savour them). But two reasons why I'm not obese - 1. My husband judges me for snacking between meals, so I hardly do it, and I feel his judgy stare when I have snacks around the house and 2. Genetics. I really don't think being obese is a character flaw and that it really does come down to genetics and environment. The whole concept of "willpower" is a mindfuck.

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 26/10/2021 15:54

Hi OP , it's just self control really . I love eating and when I was pregnant I gave myself a free pass - I knew I was going to get bigger to some extent anyway ! I ate with abandon , nothing was off limits and I out on 4.5 stone - so easy to do . My midwife was horrified but I knew I'd stop after the baby was born.
Took me a year to lose the baby weight , I've kept it off but now I am older it's harder as I'm getting that middle aged spread .
An active lifestyle , no takeaways , minimal snacks and healthy eating keeps me at a size 10-12 . BUT those 9 months of eating with no boundaries were happy times !!

romdowa · 26/10/2021 15:55

For me it's food allergies and a condition that causes issues with my gut , so I have to be very careful what I eat and if I'm not strict with it then I'll get very very sick.

ColinTheKoala · 26/10/2021 15:55

What stops you eating a tub of icecream or picking up a large bar of chocolate instead of a small one or one bag of crisps instead of a family size bag

I don't really like ice cream, so that helps. I'll only eat it in a cone on holiday.

DH and I share chocolate bars.

And I decant some crisps into a bowl.

Elphame · 26/10/2021 15:56

I don't buy junk food that I like ! I used to buy Wagon Wheels when the children were small as I hate them. Same with crisp flavours.

I don't keep stocks of snack food in the house and I prefer my old real denim jeans to the ubiquitous stretchy modern ones. When they start to get tight I know I need to cut back a bit. Those with Lycra just expand with you and it's easy to put on a few pounds without noticing it.

daisypond · 26/10/2021 15:56

@JaniieJones

'People who are slim are not virtuous they just have a combination of diet, genetics and environment that makes their set point lower.'

Bollocks.

Yes when younger maybe but once we get older we can't eat what we like even if we do have good 'genetics'.

If I ate what I liked I'd could easily be a size 16 but i don't want to be fat so I don't.

It’s not bollocks. I’m in my 50s and eat exactly what I like. I weigh the same as I did when I was 20 - which is bordering on underweight.
ejhhhhh · 26/10/2021 15:56

For me, it probably a combination of being reasonably active (I walk lots, go to classes at the gym, regular yoga etc), genetics, and a small amount of willpower! I don't want to buy new clothes so if they're getting a bit tight I'll cut back a bit for a while until they're no longer tight. I'll have a nice cup of tea instead of chocolate for example. Being able to be active is a big motivator for me though. I've seen how a lack of activity has really hit the women in my family hard as they got older. Although none have been overweight as such, I would say some family members have aged prematurely because they just didn't move enough. They lost strength and mobility and that negatively affected pretty much every area of their lives. I build my lifestyle around being active, and that helps in itself to control my weight, but also, if I'm out for a walk rather than sat on my bum, I'm not eating!

nitsandwormsdodger · 26/10/2021 16:00

Bizarrely I think my good self esteem is part of the reason Im now obese
For example I know I’m loved by my partner and have never valued myself by how I look whereas my skinny friends/ family have a fear of getting fat and see it as the end of everything!!! They also have partners who prefer slim , work in careers where looks are important ( singer) and have had a lifetime of positive comments about their weight so it’s becomes significant part of their life to be the skinny sister/ friend/ wife

Also food addiction is REAL and harder to combat than other addictions as eating can’t be stopped it’s everywhere and eating is socially acceptable
Combine that with parent issues and childhood issues and you have perfect storm to create entrenched addiction

Seaswell · 26/10/2021 16:00

@daisypond, is ' exactly what you like' entire tubs of ice cream or biscuits?

I ask because I eat exactly what I like now, but I like bacon and eggs, salads, stir fry, roast dinners (sans potatoes) etc.
I'm a healthy weight but if what I liked was junk food I'd probably be a lot bigger ( well I was till I addressed the cravings)

ElvisPresleyHadABaby · 26/10/2021 16:02

I exercise regularly, weight training and netball, and I just don't seem to need to eat that much, like I snack and have deserts etc but don't get massively hungry.

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