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AIBU?

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To have left a 23year old at 3am away from home?

368 replies

MinibusLift · 24/10/2021 16:13

I've nc as outing.

I have a minibus, for the price of the fuel and a Premier Inn room I am happy to collect my children and their friends and drop them at festivals/night clubs/stadiums etc.

I've been doing this for a few years before covid and have started again now never had an issue, occasionally haven't picked everyone I dropped off as they have decided not to come home.

On Friday I picked up 12, with my DD the youngest at 18 and then going up to 25.
I don't get involved in the organising just tell my children how much it will cost (£90 this time) and then I pick them up, drop them where they want to go and then pick them all back up at a pre agreed time. I, and my children are very clear that I won't hang around, like a pre booked taxi I leave at a set time.

Saturday morning 3am I go to pick them all up, one of mine had already texted to say he was staying in the city so I was expecting 11, but only 10 arrive.

I'm told *Alan has decided to stay with my son as he isn't ready to go home, apparently his sister tried to convince him but you can't argue with drunk people.

So I take the 10 back (about 2hours drive) and drop them home. At 8am I am woken up by Alan's mum asking why the fuck I'd left her son in the city and that he is stuck 2 hours from home with no money and needs to be at work at 10am and demanding I go and pick him up, finishing that no mother should leave someone else's son behind.

Was IBU to leave him?

(Before someone asks why I do it I'm studying and a quiet hotel room followed by a couple of hours of silent sleep in a bed on my own more than makes up for the driving)

OP posts:
VickyEadieofThigh · 24/10/2021 17:18

@Isabellabasil

I'm on the fence. On the one hand you definitely didn't have the parental responsibility to go and find Alan, he is an adult.

But on the other, he has paid for you to take him home so it's a bit different from a normal favour from a parent.

He knew the rules and the deal - he hasn't paid for the OP to give him a personalised service, has he?
Lulu1919 · 24/10/2021 17:19

...it's illegal to be paid to transport these young people unless you have a PCV

fashionSOS · 24/10/2021 17:21

If he'd been 10 seconds late and you'd refused to wait, I would have considered it a bit unreasonable. However, it sounds like you were texted to advise he was safe somewhere else, and not to wait for him? In which case, you've done nothing wrong, it's just that Alan's mum doesn't agree with his life choices and you're an easy scapegoat.

TatianaBis · 24/10/2021 17:23

I know nothing about the laws around this but are they technically paying her? They’re paying for the petrol and her hotel room.

OtterAndDog · 24/10/2021 17:23

He's a fully grown man! She's ridiculous!

Melabela10 · 24/10/2021 17:23

He is 23 !!!!!! Yanbu!

CrazyTimesAreOccurring · 24/10/2021 17:25

Did Alan's mummy reply to you? Or get off her backside and pick baby Al-Al up?

Unsure33 · 24/10/2021 17:26

I would just double check your insurance as is it not for exchange of money rather than profit ?

I would hate for you to be invalidating your insurance .

MatildaIThink · 24/10/2021 17:27

@MyDcAreMarvel

At £90 it is a profit any hotel costs aren’t relevant, so you need to be declaring any earnings above the cost of fuel on your tax return,
Actually you do not.

www.gov.uk/self-assessment-tax-returns/who-must-send-a-tax-return

VerbenaGirl · 24/10/2021 17:27

Alan is an adult and his Mum is being a twat.

MyDcAreMarvel · 24/10/2021 17:28

@MatildaIThink the op is self employed that is not her only income. If it was yes you would be correct if under £1000.

VivaDixie · 24/10/2021 17:28

At 23 I had my own mortgaged flat and bills to pay. No way would I expect a friend's mum to hang around whilst I was -shagging- faffing about. And would definitely not get my mother involved, in fact she would tell me to sort myself out as I was a grown woman.

Alan's mum is crackers. Wonder if she is reflecting having read the thread 🤔

itsallgoingpearshaped · 24/10/2021 17:33

@Isabellabasil

I'm on the fence. On the one hand you definitely didn't have the parental responsibility to go and find Alan, he is an adult.

But on the other, he has paid for you to take him home so it's a bit different from a normal favour from a parent.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

You are joking, surely.

He's 23. A grown up.
And yes, he paid for a ride home at a particular time. He not only didn't show up, he actively said he wasn't showing up for it.

Would you expect a train to wait or go back for him? A plane?

His ride had a designated time; he opted to not take it up. he's on his own.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 24/10/2021 17:34

but we need to talk about why you have to give people lifts to get a quiet hotel room and a couple of hours sleep

Ummmmm no we really don’t. It’s none of our business and not the point of the thread.

Itsassimpleasthat · 24/10/2021 17:34

I wonder if Alan is grounded? 🤭

Jem57 · 24/10/2021 17:36

You are obviously a nice guy because you wouldn’t be bothered otherwise.Do not feel guilty,his problem and his Mum needs to wind her neck in.

TravelLost · 24/10/2021 17:36

I think those young adults are bloody lucky to have someone ready to drop them and pick them up like this at their convenience!!

pucelleauxblanchesmains · 24/10/2021 17:36

I'm autistic so I'm often sympathetic to stories on Mumsnet where people are yelling at someone for being childish as an adult (I worry people think that of me when I have difficulties) but... I really don't see how it's your fault here? You said you'd set off at a particular time, he didn't turn up at that time and claimed not to want the lift, so what were you meant to do otherwise?

Jem57 · 24/10/2021 17:37

Oops not guy,lady

ejhhhhh · 24/10/2021 17:38

YANNU. The fact that Alan wasn't at home in time to make it in to work probably has something to do with the fact that his mother treats him like a child. See OP, you're providing free life lessons along with the taxi service.

ivykaty44 · 24/10/2021 17:39

Actually, I think Alans mum was being unreasonable phoning you this morning. Alans mum wouldn't be phone Brtish rail or Chilterns to ask why the train driver didn't wait for her baby boy... so why she's ringing you early on a Sunday morning, after he made the choice not to come back in th van, I don't understand.

SirensofTitan · 24/10/2021 17:39

@clockover

Is your minibus licensed and insured for hire & reward?
Is that a factor in whether Alan should have turned up at the agreed time?

Does it impact on how unreasonable the OP was?

AMalTiempoBuenaCara · 24/10/2021 17:41

I wonder whether Alan is a bit feckless normally and has potentially lost another job due to being too drunk to make wise decisions and come home when planned so he can get to work the next day...Maybe Alan's mother has had enough and is wrongly taking it out on you.

Regardless YANBU.

Snoozer11 · 24/10/2021 17:42

@Lulu1919

...it's illegal to be paid to transport these young people unless you have a PCV
Who cares?
Standrewsschool · 24/10/2021 17:45

Alan broke the ‘contract’, not op, by not being at the agreed pick-up point at the agreed time.

What is Alan doing in a city with no money?