to be annoyed DH is going on a stag weekend to Amsterdam?

[JinglyJangly]

DH is going on a stag weekend after Christmas to Amsterdam and too be honest, I am not too happy about it. I have heard what really goes on and why men go there, i.e. sex shops, brothels, live sex shows etc.

The blokes he is going with are a bunch of knobs. I have heard the majority of them frequent these types of places (only from what DH has said).

DH went on a stag weekend to Edinburgh a few years back and the guy who's stag party it was, was well up for visiting a brothel and guess what? he is going on the stag weekend to Amsterdam .

AIBU to be annoyed about him going? I am feeling a bit down in the dumps today and keep thinking all sorts about what they will get up too.

Whatever happened to guys going for a few beers at the local? It seems the norm for stag weekends to be held abroad nowadays. WHY is that?

Yeahbut - just stepping up to the plate and joining in the general shoutiness...

PennyBenjamin - QED.

bufabo, we stopped shouting about the time we passed round the doobie. It's much nicer now, don't you think?

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Well I would say some people seem a trifle agitated. I will not attempt to speculate about why that might be..

Just thought, what would the OP's DH make of this thread if were to see it?

Sorry, if he were to see it

Do you even know what QED means? Because you certainly haven't applied it - using my example of something which didn't fall into the "lady doth protest too much" category does not a QED make.

Now you remind me of one of those women gossiping over the back fence, saying things like "Well, she certainly seems agitated, but it's not for me to speculate....." (crosses arms, leans back, knowing look on face)

Grow up.

PB - yes I do know. I'm a Latin scholar. My name might have given you a hint...

Calm down dear.

PB: do I remind you of Michael Winner now?

No, you just remind me of someone sad, lonely and bitter.

On second thoughts, maybe that is Michael Winner!

Blimey...
Thats quite an unpleasant comment to make on the basis of a couple of posts!

(I'm talking about your conclusions regarding Michael Winner, clearly. Regarding myself, you are absolutely correct. Feeling better now?)

Is it brainwashing, DeathBySnooSnoo? It's certainly very odd whatever it is. Everybody seems to know of men who are unfaithful to their wives/partners on stag weekends and lie about it, but somehow it's never any real woman's dh/dp.

I think you should come and join in the fun next time. Maybe force of numbers can beat the brainwashing. It's certainly what they are using to bolster their arguments.

bufobufo, I didn't think your post was shrill or extreme (particularly the bit where you agreed with my points ). I always thought "shrill" was a term used by sexists to try and keep women in our place, though.

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No, I'm not feeling better at all. In fact, I now feel quite sad and bitter.

I don't want to be horrible to you, but really, only on Mumsnet could you be slated for trusting your husband!

I guess I just feel a bit battered today by being told that I am naive and stupid for feeling that I can trust my husband (and then getting the "touched a nerve line trotted out )

Sorry.

You see! "Brainwashing"!

My husband has never given me a moment's worry, never given me any reason not to trust him. Why should that mean I am brainwashed! If he ever gives me reason to doubt him then I will think again, but until then I think it is really insulting to tell me I've been brainwashed.

OK, I think I need to step away from the keyboard......

Hey no problem. I'm going now anyway...byeee

Oh, it's a slow work day today (as people may have gathered). One interesting, but not commented upon explicitly, notion in this debate is that men are much more likely to be unfaithful than women given the opportunity.

Sooo.. how about this for a topic for tomorrow's discussion:

How much more likely are men to be unfaithful than women and does the perception match the reality?

For your reading may I suggest this article in the Journal of Marital and Family Affairs, April 2005 which indicates (amongst a vast amount of other data) that circa 25% of married men and 15% of married women will engage in extra-marital sex at least once in their married lives.

Look forward to all views on this from the shrill, to the sanguine, to the informed, to the virtually clinically insane.

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The problem is Penny the number of people who have popped up to announce how much they trust their husbands. Who cares? It's not what the thread is about.

If you trust your husband why does it matter what other people think? In other words why bother announcing it?

It's a bit like people who say they are honest, honest people don't usually bother saying it because they take it as a given. OK I don't mean to compare anyone to liars but the "I trust my husband, therefore you're an idiot with issues for not wanting yours to go to Amsterdam with a bunch of brothel-creepers" attitude that has come up here is a little offensive.

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If it doesn't apply to you Motherfunk then don't take offense at it. I'm sure there's enough for you to take offense at on this thread without doing it needlessly.

I think JJ gets to decide what the issue is.

Good looking, attractive men use prostitutes too though, think of Hugh Grant with Divine Brown.

I am concerned about women being trafficked into countries for prostitution actually & I wrote down my concerns to Elizabeth.

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I know the thread wasn't about prostitution however it does bother me how many women are exploited.. I wonder how many women go into prostitution willingly? I bet the majority are forced.