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3 year old peeing in a potty in the corner of a museum

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Griddlesizzle · 16/10/2021 18:41

As it says in the title. Mother just whips the potty out and the child pees away, without the mum even asking anyone if there was a loo nearby. As a side point, the loo was less than 10m away…

Ai by - it’s pretty vile
Aibu - what else are you gonna do?

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wombwithawiew · 16/10/2021 19:44

Ermmm get over it?

RedMarauder · 16/10/2021 19:45

@AliceinBorderland

Most cafes wouldn't be happy for people to go in just to use the loo.

They could buy a drink you know. Rather than using an office door step as public toilet.

I mustn't live in London then, have a toddler or been out with disabled relations/friends.

If the person is a small child, someone with an obvious disability or someone with a card to show they have a disability cafes are fine with you.

Shops e.g. supermarkets with public toilets don't care but restaurants and pubs are difficult unless they are part of the community toilet scheme.

Innocenta · 16/10/2021 19:45

[quote MrsBobDylan]@Innocenta when a child can't cope with the sensory demands a hand dryer creates for them the parent and child uses the disabled loo. Because the child generally has a disability in this scenario.

If there is no disabled loo then we would have to go home. My ds wasn't toilet trained until 8 so we would generally have to go home to change him anyway, that's if we got out at all.

Welcome to our world.[/quote]
You don't need to 'welcome' me to any world, thanks.

MrsBobDylan · 16/10/2021 19:46

I never used a potty outside the house but I wouldn't judge anyone who did.

Lots of people do things I wouldn't do, but generally I'm quite content getting on with my own life and leaving others to do the same.

DroopyClematis · 16/10/2021 19:46

@Winterismyfavourite

My ds3 has an awful fear of dryers so yes I completely understand the portable potty, what would you rather them do? Piss all over the floor. Jesus Christ. Hmm
So what will you do with the piss? Put it in your handbag? Why would you allow your child to use a potty in a public viewing area? Would you allow your child to piss in a potty in the tinned goods aisle of Tesco? Would you put your child on a potty while waiting in a queue in a bank?

Most little children will be afraid of the dryers in a public toilet. The more you expose your child to them, interact with them, make a silly game of them, the less they'll worry about them.

Lostandlittle · 16/10/2021 19:46

@AliceinBorderland

I once walked out of my office front door (in Central london) to find a child on a potty.

Pity the parents ignored every cafe within seconds of my office door.

It's gross

It’s not a putty
orangespotatoes · 16/10/2021 19:46

It's not ideal but, benefit of the doubt on the parent making a judgement call that it was that or having an accident/child having a meltdown because of hard dryers/various other reason.

I used to be friends with a childminder. She once got a potty out in the middle of a pizza express for one of her mindees while we were having lunch! That was awful. She just said she couldn't be bothered carrying him downstairs to the bathrooms 😫😫

marmitegirl01 · 16/10/2021 19:46

Was in Costa about 4 yrs ago. Yup you guessed it. Parent of a toddler whipped out a potty and parked child under a table. Surrounded by diners. Disgusting.
But then I’m disgusted by men that piss on side of motorway. Why can’t they wait like ohh just every woman 🤷‍♀️

Kanaloa · 16/10/2021 19:47

@highstreetdiestreet

My child is autistic as I said. He wasn’t able to speak and communicate properly and so wasn’t potty trained until much later than my other three children. Not sure what’s ‘ridiculous’ about it.

MrsBobDylan · 16/10/2021 19:47

No you're right @Innocenta you wouldn't be welcome. Very astute of you to notice.

LookingGlassMilk · 16/10/2021 19:47

Innocenta, the fact that you are disabled doesn't mean that you cannot be ablist against other disabled people.

Saying that children with autism shouldn't be brought out in public is a disgusting thing to say. It's not ok to say that. Being a wheelchair user is not a free pass to be ableist against people with other disabilties.

Innocenta · 16/10/2021 19:48

@MrsBobDylan lol, I think as an actual wheelchair user, I'm as 'welcome' in any accessible loo as you are. Wink

Clymene · 16/10/2021 19:48

@Bigbonesmeatandgravy

The superiority on this thread is awful. It's unfortunate, but these things happen! I doubt the mum entered the museum, bypassed the toilets and thought, let's not go in there, let's have a piss by the ancient Egyptian artefacts instead. It's just one of those things, look away if you don't like it!
If your child isn't potty trained, you keep them in nappies or stay in until they are.

Pissing in the corner of rooms is horrible. Potty training children is like house training dogs. If you let them piss in random places because you use a potty of puppy pee pads, it takes them a lot longer to learn where it's appropriate to wee.

Thelivesofothers · 16/10/2021 19:48

@Innocenta because my child can't help his differences and adults can and should make accommodation for that.

Livpool · 16/10/2021 19:49

Ugh that is grim! Especially if toilets were so close by

RedMarauder · 16/10/2021 19:49

[quote MrsBobDylan]@Innocenta when a child can't cope with the sensory demands a hand dryer creates for them the parent and child uses the disabled loo. Because the child generally has a disability in this scenario.

If there is no disabled loo then we would have to go home. My ds wasn't toilet trained until 8 so we would generally have to go home to change him anyway, that's if we got out at all.

Welcome to our world.[/quote]
My toddler DD doesn't have a disability and screams in public loos when someone uses the hand dryer.

She isn't the only child I've had care of who has done it.

Bigbonesmeatandgravy · 16/10/2021 19:50

@Glassofshloer Presumably they haven't gone to a museum to look at a child having a wee so they shouldn't have a problem in turning away and looking at something else that they did intend to see? Maybe?

mafted · 16/10/2021 19:50

It's not something I did with my children.

Innocenta · 16/10/2021 19:51

@LookingGlassMilk

Innocenta, the fact that you are disabled doesn't mean that you cannot be ablist against other disabled people.

Saying that children with autism shouldn't be brought out in public is a disgusting thing to say. It's not ok to say that. Being a wheelchair user is not a free pass to be ableist against people with other disabilties.

(A) Literally not what I said; you are deliberately choosing to put words into my mouth so you can take offence. And you're choosing to target someone who is very disabled... Take a good look at yourself, because that's just creepy.

(B) Actually, you are completely failing to understand the meaning of ableism. It's not 'I think this person said something a bit mean about someone with a disability'. It's a system of oppression. Someone with my level of disability is inherently, unavoidably marginalised. I don't like that, I don't think it's a good thing - it's just the material reality. Nothing can change that, even if you think I'm being nasty.

(C) I've specifically clarified that I'd expect a child with additional needs to use the accessible loo (ie parent controls exposure to hand dryers).

DeepaBeesKit · 16/10/2021 19:51

I love how people are horrified as if this is some new fad of entitled parents.

I remember sibling using a potty out & about in the 80s. Everyone trained younger then and it was regarded as completely normal and better than leaving an older toddler wearing nappies.

Glassofshloer · 16/10/2021 19:51

[quote Bigbonesmeatandgravy]@Glassofshloer Presumably they haven't gone to a museum to look at a child having a wee so they shouldn't have a problem in turning away and looking at something else that they did intend to see? Maybe?[/quote]
But why should they have to? It’s like people who let their kids run around on the beach without clothes on. It understandably makes other people uncomfortable when there’s an easy alternative. Unless there’s a remarkable reason it’s just lazy slobby parenting.

Rosesareyellow · 16/10/2021 19:52

Yeah I also think it’s unnecessary - I’ve never taken a potty anywhere. I know my childminder doesn’t either. I know it goes against a lot of advice which says to take one with you but common sense told me if you’re going to just whip out a potty straight away then you may as put them in a nappy - children need to learn to anticipate and hold a wee if necessary. Especially in a place like a museum where there will obviously be a toilet near by. You pick good times to go - before you leave the house, when you arrive somewhere and there’s a toilet at the entrance to avoid suddenly needing to go. Accidents happen from time to time, it’s not a big deal. I’d rather carry a change of clothes and deal with a wet pair of pants every now and then rather than carry a potty around everywhere.

EcoCustard · 16/10/2021 19:53

No, I don’t think it’s ok. Not long toilet trained my fourth child and wouldn’t do it. I would take them on arrival and as we went around to avoid this scenario failing that It would be a mad dash to the toilet if they couldn’t make it I would wonder if they ready or we should be out yet or use a pull up.

Innocenta · 16/10/2021 19:53

[quote Thelivesofothers]@Innocenta because my child can't help his differences and adults can and should make accommodation for that.[/quote]
No, many adults can't. You are being completely unreasonable and selfish.

Clymene · 16/10/2021 19:53

It was horrible in the 80s, it's horrible now.

And I have an autistic child who was very late to toilet train and screamed at hand dryers.

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